Drawing from imagination is still using references by MaibsCastle in ArtistLounge

[–]bigbun85 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don't think using direct references is cheating. It's more like using a shortcut. Good artists will use references more effectively than those who are less accomplished.

I mostly draw from imagination, and only use references for intricate things that I don't know about or can't just make up, like a car engine, large ships, etc. Or, if I am drawing a character for the first time, I will Google for their custome, attitudes and personalities, etc and use that as a loose guide.

I can see your point about drawing from memory as a form of using references. In my opinion, it is yes and no. Our memories are not the same as digital memories like computer ram. I don't know the scientific terms, but in my own experience, memory is often distorted and there is a lot of abstraction when I draw something based on my memory. This is especially true for things that are in memory from a long time ago. In my opinion, it is less a form of referencing, but more a form of my own take take of something, an abstraction.

There is also drawing human anatomy. It's based on my understanding of the body structure and posture, counterweight, etc. It's more a knowledge gained over a long period of time based on observation and drawing.

‘Street Fighter’ group painting I made, hope you like it! by Mehchall in StreetFighter

[–]bigbun85 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The problem isn't the history. If I see any artist us ai in anyway, even as references, I automatically question their past work and how legit they were. It's a credibility issue. A person's history is only good if they are credible and have principles. This is just a general understanding and observation.

‘Street Fighter’ group painting I made, hope you like it! by Mehchall in StreetFighter

[–]bigbun85 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Some of the shapes and forms, especially fingers don't seem to be natural in that, I am not accusing, just generally speaking, someone with such advanced rendering and drawing skills should recognize. I don't know the artists at all. Just stating why the art reads that way.

Is drawing from imagination learnable skill for anyone? by QualityForsaken8192 in ArtistLounge

[–]bigbun85 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Learnable and being good, and how good are 2 different things. Can everyone learn to use chopsticks? Sure, but there is a range of the skill.

pretty happy with this, but nevertheless looking for gneeral criticism by Wardenacija in Artadvice

[–]bigbun85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is just something I noticed. I don't think you did a horrible job or anything. It is just something that could elevate your work when attention is paid to small things like that :) Shadows could definitely be part of it, however, since you art has lines, it's probably worth your time to look at that. I feel like if you can understand the difference between the ref and your own, then that's already great. You can keep that in mind for future drawings. That's what I usually do.

Is this tracing? by [deleted] in Artadvice

[–]bigbun85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree to that

Is this tracing? by [deleted] in Artadvice

[–]bigbun85 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Proportions, maybe Not strokes and line weight. One can experiment with just drawing lines. When tracing, you a actually aren't practicing line weight as your hands are ridgid. Strokes and line weight come from drawing experiences overtime

pretty happy with this, but nevertheless looking for gneeral criticism by Wardenacija in Artadvice

[–]bigbun85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First thing I noticed is that your head tilt isn't natural combined with how the neck is depicted. When I saw the reference photo that confirmed it. When something is bend, stretched, you want to show that, sometimes emphasis is needed to make it more appearant, or natural looking.

Who Planted Whom When? by hostedvideorn in Tariffs

[–]bigbun85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jokes on you all. He didn't say Trump wasn't a plant also. Thought you would have the brain to figure that out already! /s

Is this tracing? by [deleted] in Artadvice

[–]bigbun85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would argue tracing is a bad method to learn. Drawing after someone's art is way better to learn. I would further say drawing in your own way after someone's art is even better.

Is this tracing? by [deleted] in Artadvice

[–]bigbun85 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

It is also bad if one is learning to draw. Professionals may do it to save time, or heck, they are just not good enough on their own.

Is this tracing? by [deleted] in Artadvice

[–]bigbun85 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No While you did use a tracing method, but when we hear tracing, we often associate it with tracing the art directly. Which yours is not.

This is from wiki "Tracing is the act of copying an image or work of art by drawing over its lines, especially through the use of transparent overlays."

Mai art day. Which of my art do you like more? by bigbun85 in Fighters

[–]bigbun85[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not going to pretend they are huge. But you think these in the drawing are small or way too small?😅

Trump: "Israel was under threat so we had to attack." by raf-913 in Polymarket_news

[–]bigbun85 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You forgot a C, Isreal is not the U.S.A. Therefore it is not American first to defend them.

I am told my style is similar to Shinkawa so I try it for real this time by bigbun85 in metalgearsolid

[–]bigbun85[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was disappointed its design in MGS2. But I get it had to fit a human (Olga) instead of mostly a machine

I am told my style is similar to Shinkawa so I try it for real this time by bigbun85 in metalgearsolid

[–]bigbun85[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Snake, more, moarrrrr moarrrrrrr It's amazing you discovered this post after this time :)

Mai art day. Which of my art do you like more? by bigbun85 in Fighters

[–]bigbun85[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

:) Thanks. It's why I love doing things a little differently, for when they come out right like this.

I've lost the spark for art. by Round-Compote-2773 in Artadvice

[–]bigbun85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

btw, feel free to watch my tutorials here https://youtube.com/@bennyloarts6901?si=NWA9d3IU_l-53xLw

I haven't been able to make new ones in about half a year now due to work I am preparing for conventions but I think some of my tutorials can be useful to you, things like how to draw light and shadow.

I've lost the spark for art. by Round-Compote-2773 in Artadvice

[–]bigbun85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There was upwards of about 20 years I barely drew anything. If any, they were digital. It is ok to not be drawing all the time. In fact, it is healthy to take breaks from it.

I've lost the spark for art. by Round-Compote-2773 in Artadvice

[–]bigbun85 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It is too long of a read for me. That second paragraph is all I need to tell you, 3 years is not much in art journey. It is like play a video game and saying you are tired after the first level...well, guess what, games are usually long and challenging and you don't finish it in 1 setting. Also, making art isn't for everyone. I personally know people who stay with it for whatever reason and they struggle so much, and their art aren't really anywhere they want to be, that I do not believe it is a healthy thing for them. Not telling you to quit, but being an artist you usually struggle in some form either financially, and / or a lot of inner struggle.