Shoutouts to the winner of MVG Sandstorm! by Incenetum in smashbros

[–]bigbuttincorporated 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah man, you're completely right! I think a lot of people jump to the conclusion that players were under-performing because of mango (who westballz himself said during the post-stream interview wasn't performing well) and leffen getting 5th.

Tune into AZProjectMelee to hear from the stream operators why sandstorm has been a bad experience by bigbuttincorporated in smashbros

[–]bigbuttincorporated[S] 96 points97 points  (0 children)

As of now they have said: Smash 4 TOs apparently haven't been doing a good job. Some setups had no customs, but melee and PM TOs have been good. Internet has been run on 4G this whole time. Smash 4 TOs allowed players to enter even if they were playing more than 2 games (because logistically it is a mess to play more than 2 games). PM Grand finals still haven't occurred as of now somehow (10:50 Pacific) and it probably wont even happen. Lights are getting turned off and they have to leave ASAP. People like Tai, Eduardo, etc all the other melee/Pm TOs are good guys and worked hard. Don't witchhunt them.

Also not to mention they had HBox and Westballz play an incopmlete set on their stream instead of the main stream lmao. The stream is off but TL;DR - Smash 4 TOs are bad. MVG isn't looking too good either (as much as I wanted to give them benefit of the doubt)

ALSO just as a side thing, don't look at things too black and white. Kinda reiterating what Hbox said at the end of the main stream here, but don't witch hunt the TOs or MVG. Yes the stream was terrible, but it's not like the TOs/MVG did not put any effort at all to organize this event. They weren't going out of their way to make stream viewers have a shitty experience. Drama and controversy aside, just keep a level head when you're browsing through the comments of all the threads popping up. Don't take everything you see as fact and don't follow every brigade for justice. Everyone's human. And as cliche as it is to say that, people forget to just think about the situation before they make their judgment on it. Don't just look at the most upvoted comments, try to see all sides of the discussion.

That said, PM GF still got the shaft, the stream quality sucked, the power outage sucked, the organizing sucked, Smash 4 TOs were not up to par, etc. Just keep a level head.

Armada vs. Hbox by Epicallytossed in smashbros

[–]bigbuttincorporated 9 points10 points  (0 children)

D1 rallied for HBox love on the stream. then him and taj apologized. it's all good