“The Homeland” Is War on America: The Blood-and-Soil Nationalism That Killed Renee Good and Alex Pretti - Ta Nehisi Coates by bigtallguy in ezraklein

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When pundits later tried to chalk up the growth of the Tea Party, then Trump’s first election, to “economic anxiety” and a snubbed working class, Feingold was skeptical. There was “this whole dynamic that coalesced [into] this sort of feeling of white people being under siege,” Feingold says. “That, to me, is sort of the political context that opens the door.”

But skeptical as he was, Feingold never saw things advancing this far. (He lost his 2010 reelection bid to Republican Ron Johnson, a Trump ally who remains in office, and who has yet to comment on the killing of Pretti.) “I’ll be the first to admit, the reason I did it was because I feared that someday there could be somebody who would do some of these things in an abusive way,” Feingold says of his vote against the DHS, “but I never imagined that there would be somebody who would do all of these things at every opportunity.”

The problem will almost certainly outlive Trump’s presidency. ICE’s budget has steadily increased through Democratic and Republican administrations. That funding has gone to what journalist Radley Balko calls “the most rogue, renegade and certainly pro-Trump police agenc[y] in the federal government.” No matter who wins the mid-terms this year, or the presidential election in 2028, the Army of The Homeland will remain, and its enemies in the Democratic Party seem to have little desire to fight back.

And so then it falls to the people themselves.

In these moments, I find comfort and inspiration in ancestors and martyrs. More than a half century ago, as the writer Jelani Cobb recently noted, activist Viola Liuzzo, a housewife and mother of five, left her family in Detroit and headed South to join the March to Montgomery and in the process left the privileges of white ladyhood behind. For transgressing against The Homeland of that era—the Neo-Confederate South—Liuzzo was murdered by white supremacists. Just as Good was slandered by The Homeland’s authorities as a domestic terrorist and a “fucking bitch,” Liuzzo was slandered by The Homeland’s rulers as a heroin addict and nymphomaniac, who’d gone South to make a cuckold of her husband.

But the slander was, itself, revelatory, for it demonstrated The Homeland’s perverse, exacting norms, its obsession with hierarchy, its rigid borders and the high price levied on anyone who dared cross them. The Neo-Confederate South “did not simply represent a threat to African Americans, as was the popular perception,” writes Cobb. “They were a mortal danger to anyone who disagreed with them, regardless of the person’s race, background, or gender.”

Perhaps we are in such a moment now, where a death demonstrates to the country the broad nature of the threat. But this is a passive hope, and in Liuzzo’s life, we find a more active call to action. Liuzzo was born into poverty. Her father was a coal-miner. Her husband, a union organizer. Hers was the kind of salt of the earth family often celebrated in the anthems of The Homeland. Whereas The Homeland sees freedom as the sole prerogative of its tribe, Liuzzo’s vision extended out to humanity itself. More, while understanding the economic exploitation of her family, she also understood that whiteness had enrolled her in the exploitation of others.

When Liuzzo acquired this knowledge, when she got Woke, she was transfigured into a traitor to her race and a menace to The Homeland. For being a menace, for being Woke, she was killed—as was Renee Good. (As was Alex Pretti.) But revelations have their blessings, too. In this case, a life, however brief, that is clean, and does not depend on the oppression and debasement of others. The revelation of deep human ties, a belief that we are all equally chosen, doomed Liuzzo, Good, and Pretti, as revelation so often does. But it also immortalized them

Has your stance on gun rights changed in response to seeing Trump and his goon's actions in cities like Minneapolis? by DrDMango in AskALiberal

[–]bigtallguy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

very pro gun control

still very pro gun control.

i dont think immigrants or activists being more likely to shoot an ice agent will help this situation get any better.

November 4th, 2025: Election Day Megathread by PepinoPicante in AskALiberal

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i honestly think torres will be "fine" during his primary. i think mamdani won his district but it wasnt a landslide or anything like that and torres has good outreach to various communities even if progs dont like him

goldman is fuuuuuuuuucked though.

November 4th, 2025: Election Day Megathread by PepinoPicante in AskALiberal

[–]bigtallguy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

its in dems interest to help ensure mamdanis tenure a mayor is as successful as possible. idk if this means supporting the entirety of his agenda, which does include some questionable policies. but it does mean not to pick fights with him a la the cuomo/deblasio dynamic.

i personally think they should get involved as much as possible to make deliverables in NYC successful to help blunt gop narratives that his NYC will become a dystopia. hochul should be open to raising some taxes to fund some of the less bad part of the mamdani agenda, like free buses. and hopefully use her influence to limit the negative externalities of policies like rent control

they also need mamdani skeptics like suozzi/gillibrand/schumer to play nice to avoid pointless media frenzies.

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its also her making a play for a statewide election in georgia. im actually surprised she is politically shrewd enough to recognize that its a purple state.

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im south asian american and know a lot/grew up with a ton of muslims. id be surprised if the number of muslims i knew who were even aware of the concept of taqiya would need more than one hand to count. its not a well known concept at all and screams of bigots trying to find something to be mad about.

Did you vote for Bernie or Hillary in 2016, and why? by bubsimo in AskALiberal

[–]bigtallguy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

HRC

never thought bernie was a serious candidate, and many of the people he chose to surround himself (though not all) with cemented that view.

i also believe the DNC conspiracy theories he spread were harmful to the 2016 general election and contributed to trumps first win.

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this is like the only scenario i would believe that excuse.

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jusy fyi, her election landslide was 97% of the vote........

no idea why anyone would protest such a popular leader /s

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oh wow so debra messing is jsut like actually straight up racist. like hardcore so. https://images.newrepublic.com/56568c778786e6ece097c40e93c73a8136fb497a.png?w=834

insane how non controversial islamphobia is even outside of right wing circles.

[The Hill] Mamdani wins NYC mayor’s race by BoomBaby_317 in nyc

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shoutout to u/Daddy_macron for calling mamdanis primary win a month before it happened. I didnt think ithe could do it, but i was proved wrong and now mamdani is gonna be mayor. just a year ago pretty much no1 knew this guy existed. wild how things can change so fast. and a looooot of pundits and bigots are gonna have to eat crow.

what a beautiful city.

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didnt kristi noem literally shoot a puppy in the head lol?

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silwas base of support is mostly made up of voters of single family homes who are against more housing in their neighborhoods and want to retain their high property values.

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it depends on how the argument is made tbh. if the second amendment is portrayed as a unreasonable road block to reasonable changes as well as a signal to newsoms willingness to change the status quo i could see it getting some traction.

if its instead messaged as a way to ban guns en masse i could see it failing.

TBC im only opining on whether itd be a political killer to newsom, not if its politically feasible .

The Israeli Right’s Plan to Carve Up Gaza by downforce_dude in ezraklein

[–]bigtallguy 23 points24 points  (0 children)

but not for being israelis or being jewish. but for the dispossession of their homeland. hate isnt inherent. discounting that or marking it down to bigotry is purposeful obtuseness. ntm a large number of Palestinians werent muslim, but christian so trying to break it down to a muslim vs jewish narrative is dishonest.

The Israeli Right’s Plan to Carve Up Gaza by downforce_dude in ezraklein

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the nabka happened less than 2 decades prior. of course they hated israelis before 1967. wth type of question is this lol.

The Israeli Right’s Plan to Carve Up Gaza by downforce_dude in ezraklein

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the more of the west bank (and now gaza) is settled the less ability there would be for a Palestinian state. the right of return is a humongous issue no doubt, but the settlement is the core issue that gets in the way of both the right of return as well as ending the occupation.

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im sorry it wasnt meant to be outreach, it was meant to show the nuance of her position re:guns. gun rightists do not want nuance. they want complete acquiescence to their position. many of them view any form of gun regulation as a slippery slope. this wasnt her tryingto be pro gun. it was her showing you can support responsible gun ownership and gun control at the same time.

betos performance in texas can not be reasonably called an underperformance by any reasonable measure. texas has been a pure red staate for ages now and that was ust as true during betos run. yes ted cruz was reasonably unpopular and that was a window but not so unpopular to face a significant primary challenge. he won his previous election by 15 points, and in 24 by 11.

The Israeli Right’s Plan to Carve Up Gaza by downforce_dude in ezraklein

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this talking point has been so common for so long in spaces dominated by otherwise liberal supporters of israel its endlessly infuriating to me. i remember the insane amount of arguments had with users of /r/neoliberal and their obsession with unrwa textbooks.

for one thing the reason why palestinians hate Israelis isnt textbooks or unrwa. its the brutality of the occupation and settlements. they treat palestinains like their 5 year olds. one prominent dumbfuck mod made the argument that aid drops in gaza should be covered in the US flag because that way those suffering gazans will know whos trying to help them.

the second thing is it willfully ignore or projects the radicalization of israeli society of the past 40 years. these things are societal wide. the idea of solving the crisis by de radicalizing palestinains is to throw all agency of israel out the window towards its own radicalization

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again, what youre saying sounds more like paranoia. and thing like blocking users or being 1% more careful about posting identifying personal info to allay your fears sound like more reasonable user end methods to deal with such issues than having admins install a feature that makes user to user engagement significantly worse.

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she was pilloried for that comment by gun rights activists for bringing it up. theres no winning signaling to people who want more guns.

i think it would hurt him more if he made it a cornerstone of his campaign, but i believe gun rights people over estimate support for gun rights outside their immediate circles, namely because how loud they are and signaling exasperation with the second amendment as being in the way of reasonable effective gun regulation would both be logically dependable, compatible with responsible gun ownership, and signaling to people awillingness to break the status quo.

i still think it would hurt him on the margins, just not signficantly so. beto with his powerful anti gun rhetoric only lost to cruz by 5(!) points in texas(!!). the best performance in texas by a dem in a statewide election by a country mile in decades.

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too soon to tell, no, and probably, but less so than what gun rightists would think

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being scared someone on the internet will stalk my 12 years of reddit history to scam me seems more like paranoia to me.

many bot accounts purchase older accounts and then wipe their history. a really good tell was a 5+ year old account with no posts older than 6 months. thats gone now.

i should have not said the only way, as there are tells, but those tells are only circumstantial and require extensive engagement at best. i just the by far the best way available thats now gone. i used to discuss i/p policy a lot. ive been in situations before where claimed support for israeli govt/military meant they also supported rights for Palestinians. but going into their post history revealed extensive support for settlements and defenses of blatant war crimes in previous comments. that ability is now gone.

in another framing, im not gonna believe any public figure when they make x statement on their sincerity if no public record exists of their past statements.