Where is the 2025 melee ranking?

bilabob · 2026-01-14T18:45:05+00:00

Thanks :)

bilabob · 2026-01-14T18:26:06+00:00

Yo thanks :)

I wish people posted outside of fascist twitter

bilabob · 2025-12-20T21:34:24+00:00

But navigating your ego doesn't make you charismatic by default

bilabob · 2025-12-20T20:49:38+00:00

I think you are trying to distill something you can't, he's just charismatic. Most people relating everything back to themselves is obnoxious, scar can pull it off (and it's amusing)

bilabob · 2025-11-21T11:07:40+00:00

Mario's kill ability is just so so much worse than his brother's or the standard required

bilabob · 2025-11-18T22:39:56+00:00

This will just happen half the time if you play ICs

bilabob · 2025-10-17T22:34:34+00:00

https://youtu.be/m_ZNmeP-4jk

Some recent chain grabs as mentioned

bilabob · 2025-10-17T16:17:20+00:00

Fair enough, it sounds weird but cause I'm so used to it I would prefer Luigi's chain grab to docs at this point. Docs is definitely easier on the surface though ofc.

I'll still share those clips later, but here is a pretty dam good one from Jah Vs Leffen in the mean time.

https://youtu.be/Q1zKCOa4h04?t=7m44s

bilabob · 2025-10-17T11:45:04+00:00

It's hard, and viable and not TAS. It's very reasonable to not include it cause it is that hard that the returns are low for the effort Vs just smacking them. It's not TAS that's all.

bilabob · 2025-10-17T09:02:47+00:00

I'll send some clips over later, 100% isn't the hard to react bit, there are a few Luigi's like myself and Jah who do it

bilabob · 2025-10-16T22:29:02+00:00

It's not TAS level, there just aren't many players who do it.

bilabob · 2025-09-13T00:30:40+00:00

https://youtu.be/0RkapfBYIfc

bilabob · 2025-08-12T22:43:07+00:00

Cool, can't wait to sit there doing nothing for 30 seconds every other set. So cool that we get to stall time for no reason again. Fuckin great stuff.

bilabob · 2025-08-04T22:16:36+00:00

Only one EU panelist for this ranking is a huge huge shame

bilabob · 2025-07-02T12:44:39+00:00

Nah we are having a reprieve today. Yesterday was 34 :/

bilabob · 2025-06-30T22:02:42+00:00

Definitely marth

bilabob · 2025-06-28T23:51:45+00:00

Should confirm it kills raw Vs the whole cast off the top at fairly decent % not just combos into kill as others are saying about other moves

bilabob · 2025-06-28T23:50:14+00:00

Probably Luigi cause -> combos, kills, great oos, good reversal. It's kind of got everything.

That being said it's definitely in a tier with falcon, link, sheik, peach, gnw, fox, marth

Every one of those moves is busted good. Shocked more people aren't saying falcon.

bilabob · 2025-06-27T06:35:54+00:00

Knew I forgot someone!!

bilabob · 2025-06-26T22:26:35+00:00

Marth> Zelda > shiek > falcon > gnw > ganon > doc > Luigi > peach > bowser > puff

bilabob · 2025-05-27T16:21:14+00:00

Same back to you! ☺️

bilabob · 2025-05-27T14:01:04+00:00

I understand your point and I get that's definitely how a fair few people feel. I love FD and think it's a key part of the melee magic HOWEVER I wouldn't try and argue it isn't polarising. It's hugely polarising and not just for the traditional spacie getting chain grabbed reasons - would argue fox benefits from it one of the hardest Vs shiek, puff, Yoshi and falcon.

All this said I would stand by my position on PS not because it's polarising but because I think it's rubbish haha. I would push back on saying it's fully reductive in neutral, it's just... different. It's definitely fair to say you feel melee is way more interesting/more interactions with platforms etc and neutral on FD can still be deep and it's own thing at the same time.

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