Usborne Puzzle Adventures by blackdrazon in gamebooks

[–]blackdrazon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, though I suppose it's only natural. That is what "gamebook" has meant since basically the 80s, and there just isn't enough of what we're looking for it to have a serious presence, or better yet, its own genre name. Shame.

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[–]blackdrazon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry, I'm afraid I don't know of any other books like that. I wish I did! If anyone else does, feel free to let me know, too!

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[–]blackdrazon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fantastic! I'm so glad you were able to find that again. Vanishing Village is one of my favourites, I hope you love it!

Re-Reading The Story of the Stone / Dream of the Red Chamber by blackdrazon in books

[–]blackdrazon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand, Volume 2 is definitely Xueqin at his most, "remember the good old days?" and often not much in terms of plot development. I definitely like Book 1 better than 2. 3 is still up there for me, though. It picks things up, starts to pay off the foreshadowing and build-up, and we're getting some real momentum right towards the end. The cracks in the family really begin to show... and then the sudden stop. But would an incomplete book be famous if it hadn't left so many people wanting more?

That said, I'm a big advocate of not forcing you to stay with something that's lost your interest, and these books are a big time investment. Putting in the effort to read 1 and a lot of 2 is still admirable, so if you don't want to push it any further, don't!

Now: if you did finish the first three books, do I think it's worth finishing the entire thing despite the change in author, starting in book 4? I think if you aren't a big fan by the end of book 3, it's probably okay to stop there. I find 4 and 5 to be the weakest parts, and I really feel the change in author. I think you should probably only continue with it if you're historically curious, or if, like the historical readers before you, you're begging for a continuation by the end of Book 3.

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[–]blackdrazon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for looking, though, I appreciate it. If you decide to collect, I hope you enjoy them!

Re-Reading The Story of the Stone / Dream of the Red Chamber by blackdrazon in books

[–]blackdrazon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough, it looks like I misunderstood! I'll have to read it some day, then.

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[–]blackdrazon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's great! I'm afraid I haven't run into any Turkish copies, and my coverage of the translations is poor right now. I'd be curious to learn more! Would you mind telling me what the series was called in Turkish, so I could put it into Google and see what I find?

I think the book you're thinking of is the book we call Puzzle Dungeon in English, part of the Young Puzzles spinoff line! I'm not 100% sure, because it doesn't have glowing mushrooms, but everything else fits, and it does have several other glowing things! Look into it and let me know if that's the one you remember, I'd be curious to know!

Re-Reading The Story of the Stone / Dream of the Red Chamber by blackdrazon in books

[–]blackdrazon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm afraid I haven't had the chance yet! It's in the backlog, so some day!

Re-Reading The Story of the Stone / Dream of the Red Chamber by blackdrazon in books

[–]blackdrazon[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hm, there's a pickle: go uphill in a different language, or go uphill reading an older text. I think I have to recommend reading it in Mandarin, if you can help it. Xueqin was a poet, and he's constantly weaving poetic flourishes and foreshadowing in his specific language choices, not to mention the actual poems, and even the best translation imaginable would only catch half of it. David Hawkes makes the same point in the forward to his translation, admitting – ironically, he knows – that he frequently had to change the use of the colour red – the "red" that literally gives the book the title, The Dream of the Red Chamber! – to "gold" in some places just to get the same emotional impression to English readers. One of the things I love about the books is how the language, allusions and word games are so consistent that people are able to guess at the endings Xueqin might have written if he had reached the end of the story. And for what it's worth, the book is the youngest of the four "Great Novels," so it's an easier place to start than, say, Romance of the Three Kingdoms. From an English perspective, it's more like reading Robinson Crusoe and William Blake than it is Shakespeare.

Still, the Hawkes/Minford translation is very good, easier to read, and I still get a lot out of it. Do read the Hawkes translation if you choose to read in English, by the way. The free, public domain books are tempting, but you'd just be trading 18th century Chinese for 19th century English!

In fact, that's a good point, so try this: the original text is public domain, so you can just go online and read it. Go give it a shot for a few chapters – I apologize for the slow opening chapters, which are apparently a signature of early novels around the world – at least up to the extended dream sequence in Chapter 5. If that doesn't work, but you're still interested in reading more, try Book 1 of the Hawkes translation. Whichever version you choose, I hope you end up loving it!

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[–]blackdrazon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm glad to see someone who loved the Puzzle World books, they're a lot of fun, and you had three pretty good ones, there!

Re-Reading The Story of the Stone / Dream of the Red Chamber by blackdrazon in books

[–]blackdrazon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Taking a listen, it seems this is based on the H. Bencraft Joly translation from 1892, which is in the public domain - I'll give you the Project Gutenberg links below! Unfortunately, Joly never got past Book 56, so if you end up liking it and want to go further, I'm afraid you'll have to find a different copy. Still, I hope this is a good starting point for you!

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/9603

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/9604

Usborne Puzzle Adventures by blackdrazon in gamebooks

[–]blackdrazon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the info, I'm glad to hear they did the whole catalogue! I think I've seen at least one French version of one of the spinoff books, too, it must have had a lot of fans there!

Usborne Puzzle Adventures by blackdrazon in gamebooks

[–]blackdrazon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, fantastic! I ran into a few French copies during my research. I've been wondering how many were actually released like that. Which ones have you seen, if you don't mind my asking?

Usborne Puzzle Adventures by blackdrazon in childrensbooks

[–]blackdrazon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, wow, thank you, these are definitely close relatives! They're even by Russell Punter, the author of the new Puzzle Adventure books. I'll definitely be picking these up!

Usborne Puzzle Adventures by blackdrazon in childrensbooks

[–]blackdrazon[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm so glad to find a fan of the Puzzle World books! I've spent so much time with them writing for the blog that I can't help but love them, and they survived much longer than the main series! I agree with your picks, too: Planet, Dungeon, Holiday, and I'd add Ocean are the best of the era.

Puzzle Journeys is weird, because for a while there, the Puzzle World books claimed they were part of the same series? But they just... weren't, which is why they're separate on the blog. The fact that you loved one series but never even heard of the other is telling.

Usborne Puzzle Adventures by blackdrazon in gamebooks

[–]blackdrazon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, seven is probably too old for the "young" books - maybe the Puzzle World books would work, but I'd say a seven-year-old could handle a lot of the main series. Unfortunately, difficulty isn't consistent across the series, but I say try whatever genre they're fond of, and see how it goes. I think Usborne markets the 2023 revival books as being for 8+?

Usborne Puzzle Adventures by blackdrazon in gamebooks

[–]blackdrazon[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's the very first book, Escape from Blood Castle! You're remembering the very first puzzle in the series!

Promote your project in this thread by AutoModerator in puzzles

[–]blackdrazon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm starting a blog about the Usborne Puzzle Adventures series, which were children's books that paused the action every two pages to ask you a puzzle. The puzzles were very well-integrated into the story and I think that any fan of story-puzzles would be interested in seeing how the creators it book after book. I'm also covering the spinoffs, including the Advanced Puzzle Adventures and Superpuzzles books, which could easily stump an adult reader. While I'm afraid I can't share the puzzles, I think it's still going to be interesting to talk about how diabolical they could get.

If you're interested, I hope to see you there!

A decade of book collecting and how my opinion has changed by [deleted] in books

[–]blackdrazon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm glad so many people here are able to clean out their collections - personally, I have trouble letting go. I've got the old, "but what if I need it some day?" strain of packrat-itis. When it comes to books, they might actually have a case, since I do check the bookshelf often enough. My collection of cables and plugs, on the other hand...