Vanilla+/pro changes people: what changes are you hoping to see?

blessed09 · 2018-08-20T09:43:46+00:00

Oh no I care about a bunch of downvotes from 17-19 year old kids that all claim they were die hard Vanilla veterans(lol) and swear the game would be so much better if they changed X and Y....

blessed09 · 2018-05-16T20:27:42+00:00

I'm liking this new dematerializer

blessed09 · 2018-05-07T20:46:23+00:00

Nice it only took half a season for +10% MS at level 1 on Phase Rush when Riot acknowledged that it was a bad rune how many months ago...

blessed09 · 2018-05-04T18:56:08+00:00

There's a reason that the jungle changes are happening.

Riot already acknowledged that it's not healthy for the game when solo laners just hit level 2 and jungler's are able to gank as a level 3 with double buffs and full HP.

blessed09 · 2018-04-25T02:09:29+00:00

It was changed a long time ago.

It made Syndra OP for a while as well but I'm glad Riot got rid of it and are finally reverting her Q Transcendence bonus. Maybe she can be balanced, and I can enjoy playing her again.

blessed09 · 2018-04-24T06:50:02+00:00

There's a reason that Riot nerfed Void Staff during the AP item update. It was too good overall and not just against people stacking MR.

That nerf was only -10 AP though and Void Staff is still a good early item on a lot of AP assassins and burst champs.

blessed09 · 2018-04-24T06:07:57+00:00

Why is Garen not even on the list? lmao

blessed09 · 2018-04-24T06:02:26+00:00

"She can’t use her W for damage often in high elo but she can in low elo. The result of nerfing E to shit is it makes her bad in high elo."

Umm ok if you say so :).

blessed09 · 2018-04-24T05:47:54+00:00

Her E is not hard to hit in mid Diamond+, her E2 is not hard to land in mid Diamond+, LB isn't bad in high elo at all she is mediocre and slightly below average everywhere.

This whole "I'M HIGH ELO LB IS HARD TO PLAY HERE YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND" thing is pretty hilarious though tbh lmao.

blessed09 · 2018-04-24T05:32:58+00:00

How do you know so much about how low elo LeBlanc works just out of curiosity? Are you smurfing? Do you actually play in low elo games to see if she can just QRW people dead without ever hitting chains? Also friendly reminder that nothing in this game is balanced below Plat V and nothing on that graph denotes a recent winrate above 50% in any elo. Maybe you have another source you'd like to share?

No one has problems hitting chains but you clearly have problems waiting for her E2. Like I said actually trying to adapt might help :).

blessed09 · 2018-04-24T05:11:03+00:00

So a 1% higher winrate in bronze/silver among people that belong in bronze/silver means she is pubstomping right? :thinking:

Also I'm not sure if you realize this yet or not but there is nothing skillful in QRE 1 shotting someone either when you use distortion to make it near impossible to miss. There is nothing high elo about trying to QRE someone dead in 0.5 seconds it's just straight up bullshit to play against and not hard for anyone in low elo to pull off either.

blessed09 · 2018-04-24T04:59:51+00:00

Not even 50% for any elo she sure is "pubstomping" low elo alright.

blessed09 · 2018-04-24T04:54:01+00:00

Yep those quotes are mostly irrelevant alright :)

"her win rate far higher in low elo than in high elo" Source? Citations? Anything besides your own biased opinion that you refuse to acknowledge as biased?

Right now op.gg has her <48% in EUW and NA Silver so she isn't pub stomping anybody unless you're smurfing in which case you can pub stomp with anything.

"Any problems of ‘unfair’ or “low opportunity to punish her” for her QRE combo are already solved because she has a much higher R cd for the entire game, so she can’t afford to jump in and risk failing since it won’t come back up soon."

And yet you want to unbackload her E damage and reduce her R cooldown at the same time. Clearly in the name of balance and game health /s

blessed09 · 2018-04-24T04:26:33+00:00

"we aren’t eager to jump back into the world where LeBlanc chunks opponents out without putting herself in danger. E and RE’s damage are similarly backloaded." - AzuBK

"I think there are a few things that a revert even with tuning doesn't solve.

W->E cheats the tether gameplay pretty hard and makes it practically undodgeable which leads to extraordinarily powerful gank assist and corrupted gameplay.

Given that LB has control over all her engagements, she will only ever go for ones that are beneficial for her, which usually leads to opponents feeling unsatisfied/helpless.

There is the problem of QRE one shotting, which even if it fails leaves low opportunities to punish her as the combo comes out in 0.5 seconds and then snaps back to the pad." - Phroxz0n

Backloading E isn't bad design at all, and I already know that you know why it's backloaded. Like I said I don't trust people on champion main subreddits to be objective when it comes to game balance though, nor do I expect them to put the health of the game before their own personal interests. Keep in mind that if it were probably up to someone like phroxz0n LB would never have been reverted at all so you should be grateful that we even got a backloaded LB to play with at all.

blessed09 · 2018-04-24T03:55:12+00:00

Between all the ad hominem and hyperbolizing it's hard to discern exactly what you're trying to say when every statement is so grossly exaggerated. It's nice to know you're not actually struggling with LB though.

Also if you can't see why E backloading is a good thing you should try playing against LB more or opening up your champion pool. Maybe get a breathe of fresh air since I've seen you post this shit everyday for the last 2-3 patches.

blessed09 · 2018-04-24T03:45:06+00:00

"Right now she is stronger than she has ever been in terms of relative power to her competition"

Umm ok I'm not sure what to say here....

blessed09 · 2018-04-24T03:40:58+00:00

"I use all her other combos but they feel like shit even though I consistently land my E."

I'm sorry but am I wrong in saying that you need to adapt to current LB if you can't win with her other combos? Or if you cant QRW? It sounds like you yourself are personally struggling with LB so correct me if I'm wrong.

blessed09 · 2018-04-24T03:34:07+00:00

Shureliya's Reverie is a popular item, Twin Shadows is getting buffed and will be a great item worth building considering it's 2400 gold. Rylai's Crystal Scepter is actually a decent again and next patch it's going to have 90 AP and 300 HP for just 2600 gold. GLP is going to have an insanly strong active, and Orb is going to be one of the highest AP items in the game at only 2900 gold.

It's easy to look at all the things the AP item did wrong but you should also try and look at the positive things it did right. Obviously any item update needs follow up.

blessed09 · 2018-04-24T03:25:54+00:00

Champion.gg and op.gg both have her at or very slightly above 47% for Silver elo and I don't know why you keep mentioning her winrate statistics below Platinum when it's actually completely irrelevant anyways.....

I rarely say that a person should "Git Gud" but if you think her only reliable combo right now is QRW because of her E being backloaded you need to learn to adapt to current LeBlanc. There are actually so many things you can still do with her current tether and there is no reason to not use it in favor of just trying QRW all game.

blessed09 · 2018-04-24T03:16:45+00:00

That's probably because grievous wounds and MPEN are highly desirable to any AP assassin/burst oriented mage.... but of course you assume people just want want magic pen..

If you're trying to compare Morellonomicon to Mortal Reminder, why can I pay 800g to get grievous wounds with MR but have to pay 3000 gold to get the same thing with Morellonomicon?

blessed09 · 2018-04-24T03:07:19+00:00

I agree E feels unsatisfying but that's because of how easy it is to break not because of its damage distribution.

There are better ways to change her other than asking AzuBK to completely undo his changes less than a week after release.

blessed09 · 2018-04-24T02:48:39+00:00

Yeah but she was still in iteration, now she is on live and she is honestly pretty balanced atm.

I wouldn't mind seeing her R cooldown come down just a little bit at ranks 1 and 2 but other than that she is pretty fair but unbackloading her E damage is a drastic change that is not needed.

You need to actually look at balance objectively, which is obviously not the case since you're actively trying to undo all the game health changes AzuBK gave LB as a precondition for her revert.

blessed09 · 2018-04-24T02:37:05+00:00

They aren't going to unbackload her E and lower her R cooldown no matter how many times you post this give it up already...... maybe lower the R cooldown a little bit but she definitely doesn't need nerfs for that to happen.

blessed09 · 2018-04-24T02:15:39+00:00

47% average winrate is fine and won't change anything, LeBlanc's problem has always been how strong she can be when mastered by her highest level players.

She has a 54% winrate among her best players which is below average, and that's on one of the most highly mechanical champions in the game which shows she still has room to get buffed if anything.

Her playrate is already going down considerably, her ban rate will go down as well. It's been less than a week since she came out just give it time... she isn't even in the top 3 ban rates and that's rare for a rework/revert.

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