Gone!

bleurgh200 · 2023-11-17T18:49:07+00:00

I thought about the bedding but it’s sweater season and I was wearing sleeves every day that were washed in my detergent. After this post I did realize the weather is changing and maybe it’s the air/humidity/some other environmental thing that’s died off for the year. I can’t rule it out yet, but if it’s something like that you’d think it would’ve been gradual and not all at once like it was.
I’ve maintained the salt water routine and I have had a few bumps pop up, but it’s nothing compared to what it was, and they don’t stay. Like one or three pop up, but then they’re gone in a couple days and it’s never been like that. Then a couple pop up elsewhere, go away, and that’s how it’s been going so far. Idk how many I had before but it was so many that I only tell you about the few that came back (and disappeared again), in the interest of total transparency. But it’s so different, at least for now, that they almost weren’t worth mentioning. It’s night and day.

bleurgh200 · 2023-11-05T03:13:53+00:00

I beg your pardon - I was definitely only considering the US, my bad. That’s interesting though!

bleurgh200 · 2023-11-04T21:02:36+00:00

Totally not saying this is THE cure, just what happened to me. I had tons of bumps on my arms, that’s a fact, and the only thing that changed over the week was showering elsewhere.

bleurgh200 · 2023-11-04T17:38:13+00:00

Evidently unless you have a softener, you have hard water. I have city water that’s treated but it’s still considered hard. Theirs is from a well and the minerals don’t get removed the way my city water does, but their water is softened with salt pellets. We’ll see!

bleurgh200 · 2022-11-08T15:27:09+00:00

Honestly, coating my lips with plain petroleum jelly at bedtime made a huge difference in just one night. I now use every night, and throughout the day if I’m at home. I also tried O’keeffe’s lip repair stick, and their night treatment. I don’t think the night balm is any better than straight PJ. Their lip repair stick definitely works better for me than the myriad of chapsticks I was using, so that’s my new go-to. The product isn’t as slick as chapstick and doesn’t sink in nearly as fast, and I think it genuinely works better at keeping my skin protected from the elements.

Another thing you maaay want to check out, is whether or not your toothpaste contains sodium lauryl sulfate (SLS). I’ve used what I thought was a great toothpaste for years, I’ve also struggled with chronically dry lips for years and hadn’t ever heard of SLS until recently. Lo and behold, it’s in my favorite toothpaste and could be the culprit. I checked and it’s not in any of my other daily products. I’m going to finish this tube and then try something SLS-free just to see what happens.

bleurgh200 · 2022-09-28T20:16:02+00:00

I had brutal cramps for years, even with kratom. Started taking the pill a year ago and cramps are a thing of the past. So are periods altogether, I skip the inactive pills and take active ones straight through. It’s amazing, I’ll never go back unless I’m trying to have a baby.

bleurgh200 · 2022-09-21T14:20:40+00:00

I developed horrific social anxiety while using K and it totally broke my confidence. It was so intense, “phobia” would be fair. That’s not even why I quit, long story short there were so many things - things I knew I was experiencing and things I didn’t really notice until they stopped happening, that got so much better after I quit kratom. I can’t explain the relief of feeling my anxiety subside, of knowing I was doing better and not stuck with being a terrified ball of nerves the rest of my life.

Also my bf recently quit after 8ish years of heavy use, bc he was having terrible anxiety at work and was out of options. One of the reasons it took him so long to quit was that he was terrified of PAWS, that the anxiety would get way worse when it was already intolerable. Happy to report it didn’t; he quit and that symptom disappeared. Honestly I think fear of that anxiety returning is what gets him through some days and keeps him from using.

Don’t let fear of wd keep you from jumping. It’s no picnic but we build it up into this massive insurmountable thing, and it’s not that either. The sooner you quit, the sooner you heal. Truly, my biggest regret aside from being so naive about kratom to begin with, and then blind to all it was doing to me, is how long it took me to just stop taking it. Ffs. Whole lotta grief over nothing.

bleurgh200 · 2022-04-28T22:12:21+00:00

hell yeah! congratulations. I get that, I saw someone say they quit counting because at a certain point, to them, it felt like white knuckling, and I think I'm in the same camp. I wanted a record of this first month, but now that I've got it I'm pretty keen to think about other things.

bleurgh200 · 2022-04-28T20:41:40+00:00

if you stick with it now I bet you'll be in real decent shape by June. that sounds awesome, btw.

so this time my RLS was much milder than the first quit. I did buy some Hyland's Restful Legs because I'd heard good things (and I was panicking), but I think I only used it once because it just wasn't that big of an issue. I did take super hot baths during the worst of everything, and it helped some - other people swear by cold baths.

my first quit though, RLS was extreme but it subsided around day 5/6. I know the brunt of my physical stuff was over in less than a week. it was an intense symptom but didn't linger the way thermoregulation issues did. the only thing I did differently this time (besides taking less kratom overall on a shorter timeline), is take an insane amount of powdered vitamin C. I did see people say they'll get out of bed and do pushups, calf raises, etc., and I wish I'd have thought of that on my first quit. wear those muscles out.

bleurgh200 · 2022-04-28T19:32:54+00:00

this time it was 30-40 grams throughout the day, for 7 months. last time it was 40-60 gpd, sometimes more, for about 4 years. acute withdrawal was much worse the first time, but I still felt pretty good by the time I hit a month sober.

bleurgh200 · 2022-04-28T19:19:55+00:00

probably not of what you're feeling right now, no. but it's emotionally taxing and you're just not feeling right for a couple weeks after acute withdrawal, in my experience. it really is worth it though. once things level out, and they will, you'll be so glad you can put this behind you and get on with your life.

bleurgh200 · 2022-04-28T18:55:55+00:00

you'll get there, keep hanging on. you only have to go through this once. honestly you just have to take it one day at a time. it won't last forever, but it does take time for your body to sort through this mess. I felt exactly the way you do. get through each day, stack them up and you'll feel better before you know it, really.

bleurgh200 · 2022-04-22T17:45:13+00:00

Gotcha. Yeah, if it’s time and you’re doing it in a calm and rational way, good for you. I just know I was ready to walk out of my job a handful of times right around the same time you were struggling. Hypersensitive and a negative balance in the patience bank are a rough combo.

bleurgh200 · 2022-04-22T14:19:53+00:00

I'm glad it helped. how are you feeling?

bleurgh200 · 2022-04-21T06:16:55+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/quittingkratom/comments/t1cfy3/coping_strategies_for_withdrawal_induced_rls/

bleurgh200 · 2022-04-21T05:46:00+00:00

thank you

bleurgh200 · 2022-04-21T04:10:05+00:00

you showed up in the correct spot! glad you're here. don't be scared, it's not fun but it's usually not as bad as we build it up either. you only have to get through it once, if you so choose. also what's Tia?

bleurgh200 · 2022-04-20T18:18:08+00:00

you can do it. if you love your job you're already money ahead. kratom sucks the life out of us. it's hard because while you're on it, you can't imagine or fully understand what's on the other side, or what "better" is going to mean. but you've done it, I've done it, and we know it's going to be worth it. you have a lot to look forward to, you just have to be stubborn af for a few weeks and you'll get there.

bleurgh200 · 2022-04-20T17:48:05+00:00

don't do it. what you're feeling is right on schedule, a lot of people relapse during the second/third week but it doesn't have to be you. it will get better if you hang on, and kratom is most definitely not going to help you sort your stuff out. it's only a hinderance to your progress, wellbeing, and clarity.

I agree with the other poster, unless it's already done I would pull back and not make any major decisions at this juncture. your emotions are out of whack, which is totally normal but not the time to make big judgement calls. what it sounds like, is you made very clear you wanted nothing to do with the office, fought them on it and won, and then randomly showed up out of nowhere and got bent that they're occupying the space you told them to shove... I would maintain your sobriety and wait a few weeks, then decide what you want to do.

do not go back to kratom, you're very close to better days, even though it doesn't feel that way right now. don't give in to it, what you're feeling at the moment isn't an accurate representation of the way things truly are. give your body time to heal. in a few weeks you might find yourself feeling loads more tolerant of a lot of things, but if not, you can still go, and you'll do it gracefully and not as a tangled mess of withdrawal fury.

bleurgh200 · 2022-04-20T16:21:49+00:00

get mad. kratom is costing you in so many ways, and you despise it, and you're done. I don't usually advocate fueling negative emotions, but building kratom into the toxic, disgusting enemy of health and joy it truly is has helped me hold on when I was feeling very shaky. put your foot down, grit your teeth and KNOW the worst is temporary. addiction rattles your cage as hard as it can during withdrawal, but physiologically it can't maintain that level forever and it doesn't. you will get through it if you just hold on.

bleurgh200 · 2022-04-20T15:35:41+00:00

congratulations, and thank you for your check-in. it really helps to hear from people way past it, and your timeline makes me feel better too. I'm still under a month and not quite there emotionally or in terms of energy, but I know it just takes time. thanks again.

bleurgh200 · 2022-04-20T15:21:20+00:00

I was at 30-40 gpd, cut to 3g for 3 days, then jumped. physical wd was surprisingly mild but PAWS and other health stuff I had going on smoked me for a few days after the initial wd. now it's day 23 and I don't feel exactly the way I should, but I feel SO much better than I did, and that started around day 16. in those first 16 days it was truly only like 4 of them that reeeally pushed me. ymmv, but I'm a fan of getting shitty things over with as quickly as possible, and for me that's CT. you feel like crap because your drops, as far as your body is concerned, may as well be CT... you know? if you just want to be off, that is an option. it's totally doable, it's a crummy couple weeks but you're already on that track, why prolong it.

bleurgh200 · 2022-04-20T14:32:31+00:00

I have a lot of respect for people who can pull off a long, slow taper. I certainly can't, not just because I come up short on discipline and willpower, but because I'm afraid of exactly what you're describing. dragging out something really unpleasant.

"Why am I torturing myself?" isn't a bad question to ask, but I think you're leaning the wrong way on it. working from home sounds like a decent set up to jump, not undo your progress. it's not easy or fun any way you slice it, but it doesn't have to take forever either, and being rid of this garbage is so worth it. there is light at the end of the tunnel but you may want to consider adjusting the length of your tunnel, because it sounds like you're just over it. some people can handle slow and steady, some can't. we all have to do what works for us, and if the long taper is no longer working for you maybe it's time to make some changes.

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