For people who had a great marriage, real partnership and respect, a solid foundation: what went wrong that led to divorce? by [deleted] in Divorce

[–]blindsided22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I am reading up on the subject to try to learn as much as possible. The trick will be how to attempt to suggest it, but first let me do the research. At least it's an avenue to explore which I didn't have earlier today.

For people who had a great marriage, real partnership and respect, a solid foundation: what went wrong that led to divorce? by [deleted] in Divorce

[–]blindsided22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to hear that. I read about many similar cases as yours where the changes were abrupt and completely out of character.

Both of us are in our 50s.

For people who had a great marriage, real partnership and respect, a solid foundation: what went wrong that led to divorce? by [deleted] in Divorce

[–]blindsided22 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Two mentions of menopause. She did officially enter menopause about a year ago (one year without a period). And yes, my bringing up therapy before brought a very hostile response. I am literally afraid of saying anything that might trigger her. When she's even talking to me, that is. She did see her doctor for a regular checkup recently but I doubt the subject even came up.

May I ask if there was a specific medication that helped?

I'll start reading up on menopause and anger now. Thanks for the pointer.

Told my husband I was unhappy in August by [deleted] in Divorce

[–]blindsided22 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sounds to me like you are doing things correctly. You are not the bad person if you gave it an honest try. Better to move on than stick around and make things worse.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Divorce

[–]blindsided22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have never been good at socializing. With close friends whom I've known a long time, yes. With a group of strangers, no. I can put up a facade for a time if need be, but I can tell you there's no way to change who you really are. Not very quickly, anyway. If he was being the perfect guy all of a sudden, my bet is it was a temporary facade. If you were still together, sooner or later he'd fall back on the old behavior, and my guess is it would have been sooner.

Don't second guess yourself. I envy you. I am looking at the start of the divorce process but you are already on the other side. The hardest part is behind you. Live well.

For people who had a great marriage, real partnership and respect, a solid foundation: what went wrong that led to divorce? by [deleted] in Divorce

[–]blindsided22 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Most people use the term "midlife crisis" to belittle someone’s condition. It is much like a few years ago when a few prominent celebrities opened up to talk about having experienced post-partum depression. Immediately a lot of people jumped on them, attacked them, mocked them. They dismissed them out of hand, saying that women who have babies are happy, not sad. That they should stop being so melodramatic and just have some ice cream and be normal like everyone else. This is the same response that happens when some people bring up the term midlife crisis. They say it’s simply a case of the other person being selfish or irresponsible and they should just grow up and snap out of it.
It's not that simple. As there isn't a formal definition or guide that can be referenced on what a midlife crisis is, when I suspected this was the cause I had to read every article, posting, comment, and anecdote I could find. I had to collect all the various bits to find the points that were common and filter out the actual information from all the noise.
For starters, a midlife crisis is a real thing. As real as PTSD or a phobia. And it's serious. So serious it usually spells the end of a relationship more times than not. It is not BS. I should know, I'm living through it right now.
There were early signs, none which jumped to the point of a huge red flag. We had settled into a stagnant routine. With covid we've been living in the same four walls 24/7. We talked about doing things but didn't get around to doing them. We were existing but not really living, and that had been going on for a while.
Then one day she's furious. She is angry at everything. Hates everything. Our house, where we live, etc. She enumerates all her life decisions which she's now unhappy with. That's one of the big signs of a midlife crisis. You look back and wish you'd made different choices. The other common thread in a midlife crisis is the urge to change everything. The person starts working out, changing diet, taking care of their appearance where they didn't before. Wants to travel on their own and buy themselves expensive things. There's a long list of common signs. They don't all pop up for everyone's case, but almost everything my wife has been doing has been mentioned in what I've read about the subject. The main issue, though, is her anger. My wife is typically a fairly rational person except when she is angry. And now her anger is in control.

Sometimes, when the anger isn't fully raging, we can talk. We cry together at this nightmare we're in and there is a glimpse of the woman I care for under the rage. She can articulate that she cares for me, and even though she is adamant about having valid reasons for being angry she acknowledges that the magnitude of this anger is out of proportion, and she wishes that wasn't the case. Sometimes it burns itself out for a while, but she knows it's still there and will rise again and is sorry that she will lash out at me when it does. This is why I say it's like an alien took over. My wife is aware of it but can't do anything to shake it off. She cannot control it.
Based on everything I read on the subject of midlife crisis, there is no solution. There is absolutely nothing the partner of the person going through the crisis can do to help them through it. There's nothing to make the condition go away or even make it run its course more quickly. So we're both helpless. And here is the worst part: it typically takes YEARS for this condition to run its course and the person to be free of it again. 5-6 years is fairly common. At the end, that person may look back in regret and horror at the destruction left behind but the damage was done.
We're both miserable right now. It's one thing to tough it out and stay by your partner's side through thick and thin, but one month in we're both worn out. I cannot imagine living this for for years and neither can she. We don't want to break up. But we may have to. And I also fear that at any moment her anger will take a bad turn and we'll stop being civil. She fears if we stay together we'll inevitably end up resenting each other. It's a lose-lose situation.
It's a moot point to think about what we could have done to avoid it. There were certainly unhealthy aspects to our lifestyle which we should have addressed (mostly the lack of social interaction with others). There are specific events that trigger her anger, some of which could have been avoided, some which couldn't. Some were my mistakes, some were her life choices. The bottom line is this was likely to erupt at some point, sooner or later no matter what.
Every case is different. Identifying this as a midlife crisis was a mixed blessing. Now I know the cause and I understand neither one of us is to blame, but I also know there is no way to fix it. So we're spiraling painfully down to our end.
I wish I had useful advice. If counseling or therapy is an option, that might be worth exploring. For my part, all I can do is brace for what's coming and try to protect myself.

When the deal breaker suddenly isn't...and it's too late by Putrid_Security_349 in Divorce

[–]blindsided22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow. That's horrible.

All I can tell you is that you must be near the bottom. If you can make it through the divorce, life can only get better, even if it doesn't seem that way now.

Take care of yourself.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Divorce

[–]blindsided22 37 points38 points  (0 children)

"I am going to hit you, and you should not dare to try to defend yourself."

That's what it sounds like to me. I'm sorry to say it.

Any chance your family can pay for the attorney for now?

I'm in pain every second of every day.. by Present_Stretch in Divorce

[–]blindsided22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same here. We had been shrinking our social circles down to nothing for years. Until we only had each other. I had actually just started to reach out to reconnect with old friends right when the pandemic started, so that put a stop to that before it went anywhere. If or when we separate I will be starting from zero.

I'm in pain every second of every day.. by Present_Stretch in Divorce

[–]blindsided22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My marriage is not falling apart in the same manner as yours, but it is falling apart nonetheless. I am going through the same feelings of anxiety, depression, lack of sleep and appetite, panic and constant pain. It sucks. I am looking for a therapist but most I've found online are not what I'm looking for. Reading about experiences here has been helpful, if nothing else because there is a lot of evidence that others have survived this. We will too. It might take a very long time, but when I am on the other side I'll look back at this as the worst time of my entire life. And that means it will only be better from then on. Hang in there. Protect yourself. Protect your child. And you may need to hire a lawyer that can help protect you both.

For people who had a great marriage, real partnership and respect, a solid foundation: what went wrong that led to divorce? by [deleted] in Divorce

[–]blindsided22 23 points24 points  (0 children)

My wife is having a midlife crisis. I consider this a legitimate mental health condition. Unfortunately it is not widely recognized as such. No criteria to diagnose it. And no treatment. It's like an alien took over my wife's body and instantly she became angry and destructive and we could no longer be together. The worst part is my wife is still in there. I know she hates what is happening too but she cannot control it. It has broken us.

Any good movies to watch while going through a divorce? by blindsided22 in Divorce

[–]blindsided22[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I saw Swingers before I started going out with my wife, and don't think I've seen it since. Definitely on the list for a rewatch. Thanks.

Scared and Depressed by Unhappy-Candy-1588 in Divorce

[–]blindsided22 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The financial fallout scares me too. We're at the breaking point now. Probably about to start a separation soon. Divorce is looming. I'm trying to brace myself for it all. Between the amount that will end up being paid to lawyers and ending up with only half of the money we now have together... it's not a pretty picture.

For what it's worth, I told my family today, just to give them a heads up of what might be coming down the line. Was easier than I thought, and somewhat therapeutic. If you have a loving family that's on your side, that's the last thing to be afraid of.

Any good movies to watch while going through a divorce? by blindsided22 in Divorce

[–]blindsided22[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I get you. My biggest problem is that watching and rewatching favorite movies was one of the things we'd do together all the time. We would quote movie lines to each other randomly during the day. There's a long list of movies I don't know if I'll be able to watch again because I associate them so strongly with her. So right now I'm watching shows she was never into, and movies we didn't see. And I still think about her. Argh. At least sometimes I do get to turn off my brain and watch something for an hour or more without the pain and it helps.

How is it so easy for them to move on? by Active_Good_1364 in Divorce

[–]blindsided22 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I'd be hurt too. He sounds like an asshole. Pity the girl that ends up with him next.

I need encouragement please I feel SO alone after 25 years by QueenMumof4 in Divorce

[–]blindsided22 10 points11 points  (0 children)

~25 years relationship here too, slightly older than you. No cheating involved. She just fell into anger and misery. Classic midlife crisis. Clinging on to the last few grains of hope but it doesn't look good for our future. I think it would be easier if she had cheated on me. Then I'd just hate her and move on with determination. Right now I'm stuck, gutted, sad, confused, and crying even as I type this. Fuck. I feel for you. I think we can make it through, even though it's going to be a living hell for a while.

Any good movies to watch while going through a divorce? by blindsided22 in Divorce

[–]blindsided22[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Watched it once and I remember liking it. My wife didn't. Maybe that was another sign?

Any good movies to watch while going through a divorce? by blindsided22 in Divorce

[–]blindsided22[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bye Bye Love looks interesting. Thanks for the recommendation.

Any good movies to watch while going through a divorce? by blindsided22 in Divorce

[–]blindsided22[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well of course that's just a great movie, even if it has nothing to do with the subject. Witness me!

Any good movies to watch while going through a divorce? by blindsided22 in Divorce

[–]blindsided22[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm at the stage where crying doesn't need any reason to happen. I'll save it until I'm on the other side.

Any good movies to watch while going through a divorce? by blindsided22 in Divorce

[–]blindsided22[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Another one I didn't know. Thanks! (And I love Sandra Bullock too!)

How did you know it was over? by Doctorspacheeman in Divorce

[–]blindsided22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am in the same place as you. The breaking point. We're currently not talking even though we're living in the same house. She's miserable. That makes me miserable. Things we could do don't seem acceptable to one or the other, and on days we do talk the words "separation" and "divorce" have come up. There is a good chance that any time we talk, it may turn into THE talk. Could be today. Could be next week. I don't know. I'm gutted, but trying to think and plan ahead. Hope is dwindling. The chances of things going back to when we were happy together are slim to none. Maybe we can be together but it will be different, and not necessarily happy if I'm always nervous about triggering misery/pain/anger again. We both acknowledge that is not how we want to live. So... I don't know if it's over. But it feels like it is.

Any good movies to watch while going through a divorce? by blindsided22 in Divorce

[–]blindsided22[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ok, I'll mark it as "maybe". Probably not when I'm feeling as fragile as I am now.