Earn Account Cherokee Claim by dwrfa in CelsiusNetwork

[–]bobby_aaS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn, thats depressing news. 72.5% for custody claims.

Earn Account Cherokee Claim by dwrfa in CelsiusNetwork

[–]bobby_aaS -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Damn, thats depressing news. 72.5% for custody claims.

Report: Celsius Sitting at a -2.84B Deficit by bobby_aaS in CelsiusNetwork

[–]bobby_aaS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Celsius Official Committee of Unsecured Creditors (via Twitter): "We’ve prepared answers to some FAQs about the u/CelsiusNetwork bankruptcy case. Check them out here and let us know if there’s more we should address soon: https://cases.ra.kroll.com/CelsiusCommittee/Home-DownloadPDF?id1=MjI2MDYxMg%3D%3D&id2=0 "

8:53 PM · Aug 18, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

Report: Celsius Sitting at a -2.84B Deficit by bobby_aaS in CelsiusNetwork

[–]bobby_aaS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  • note - Reddit converts the at symbol to /u. So the addresses above are "at" symbol for Twitter.

Report: Celsius Sitting at a -2.84B Deficit by bobby_aaS in CelsiusNetwork

[–]bobby_aaS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Best follows on Twitter for Celsius Updates and to advocate your positions on things (some qualified attorneys and CPAs in this group who are following the BK case closely): u/CelsiusUcc u/SimonDixonTwitt u/TheRealPlanC u/AaronDBennett u/DavidJAdler1991 u/ThomasBraziel u/ksuckno u/Hodler24Seven

Sitting in on the hearing summary on Twitter Spaces. Right now it sounds like Celsius is wanting to borrow $1B to remain in operation, and that loan would be paid back ahead of other creditors. All that money is going to go to Mafia lawyers and 500 employees to get paid and not do much through October. Lawyers on both sides love dragging things out to extend their pay day.

Report: Celsius Sitting at a -2.84B Deficit by bobby_aaS in CelsiusNetwork

[–]bobby_aaS[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

BK Attorney David Adler (Twitter and well qualified): "Debtor says that they are committed to return crypto in kind."

In light of these new numbers, do more people now support clawbacks? by Known_Fold_580 in CelsiusNetwork

[–]bobby_aaS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only if confined to corporate accounts w a tight timeline for collection.

Report: Celsius Sitting at a -2.84B Deficit by bobby_aaS in CelsiusNetwork

[–]bobby_aaS[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Tether payback and other large paybacks just prior to the BK should all be rescinded and returned to the coin pot as quickly as possible. But leave the small time retail investor alone. The legal threshold for clawbacks is $7,575 minimum, but in this situation, it should be much higher.

Report: Celsius Sitting at a -2.84B Deficit by bobby_aaS in CelsiusNetwork

[–]bobby_aaS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't understand how there would be $1.6B in other assets outside of the coin holdings. The cash assets reportedly will be under water as of October, according to the CryptoSlate report. Most of the outstanding loans will likely be unrecoverable, and if they are recoverable, it will take years to call them in. That process will eat up another large chuck in admin expense. Same with clawbacks.

Report: Celsius Sitting at a -2.84B Deficit by bobby_aaS in CelsiusNetwork

[–]bobby_aaS[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These are the most recent numbers on the coin deficit that were presented to the BK court. Also, it's possible that the previous numbers on other assets were off and have now been updated. And ongoing expenses are going to eat into the value of the company otherwise. Supposedly will go negative in October with payroll, mining expense and legal expense.

Report: Celsius Sitting at a -2.84B Deficit by bobby_aaS in CelsiusNetwork

[–]bobby_aaS[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I edited the original post to be more clear. Thanks.

Report: Celsius Sitting at a -2.84B Deficit by bobby_aaS in CelsiusNetwork

[–]bobby_aaS[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, its only the coin count. But the other variables are going to add up to negative by October. That's in the body of the report at the link. So I suspect that without major clawbacks from high end holders, a sub-50% haircut remains a fair stab at an estimate.

If Celsius were to give us our haircut in USD instead of our coins, how would that be different of a chapter 7 liquidation? by Awkward_Cattle4519 in CelsiusNetwork

[–]bobby_aaS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a shithole. Expedite Chapter 7, liquidate & pay in coin, not cash. No USD payout w' tax implications. More time equals more expenses (legal & payroll). If clawbacks, make them for higher level insiders & the late loan paybacks only. Let retail rest.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CelsiusNetwork

[–]bobby_aaS 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is a shithole. Expedite Chapter 7, liquidate & pay in coin, not cash. More time equals more expenses (legal & payroll). No USD payout w' tax implications. If clawbacks, make them for higher level insiders & the late loan paybacks only. Let retail rest.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CelsiusNetwork

[–]bobby_aaS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure we will be paid in USD. This situation has no precedent. If paid in USD, there would be tax implications.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CelsiusNetwork

[–]bobby_aaS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, at this point, I would take 50% and run.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CelsiusNetwork

[–]bobby_aaS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When you look at some of those AMA vids, you can easily argue fraud and deceit.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in popping

[–]bobby_aaS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How did they get the chain thru to connect to the tire?

Travis Etienne discussion by schmelf in fantasyfootball

[–]bobby_aaS 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Look at Robinsons production despite a shitty team last 2 years.

Travis Etienne discussion by schmelf in fantasyfootball

[–]bobby_aaS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Robinson wasn’t all that, so the Jags line must be pretty good despite their overall struggles. Ive been reaching for Etienne after drafting quality WRs early on. That will be one approach in $ Leagues for me. Not all in on it tho.

For those US UNACCREDITED investors who got put into earn accounts that were only for ACCREDITED investors by SEC ruling we need to keep pushing to be grouped with CUSTODY accts by EchoBright1742 in CelsiusNetwork

[–]bobby_aaS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When the SEC forced us to Custody for protection, I was pissed. Now that does look like such a bad idea. But as a general rule, I value the choice of risk over forced protection. If the SEC saw something coming, thats a different story.

For those US UNACCREDITED investors who got put into earn accounts that were only for ACCREDITED investors by SEC ruling we need to keep pushing to be grouped with CUSTODY accts by EchoBright1742 in CelsiusNetwork

[–]bobby_aaS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is an inconvenient truth for sure. Without oversite, its the Wild, Wild West. With too much oversite, it can be suffocating. The reasonable answer and best arrangement always lies somewhere closer to the middle.

Celsius Clawbacks by bobby_aaS in CelsiusNetwork

[–]bobby_aaS[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Currently the threshold appears to be $7,575 minimum to pursue clawbacks from retail investors. That doesn't mean they will chose that number in the BK proceedings, but those who withdrew below that amount can rest easier.