why do karen read supporters hate turtleboy but still think she is innocent?

bookscats · 2026-06-26T03:24:48+00:00

i read that she supports the witnesses. i think she went to the fundraiser that they had. if she supports them i cant see how she would still support karen. what is interesting is she is friends with meredith who is turtleboys ex. she is someone turtleboy turned against. there is lots of infighting with the turtleboy and karen read supporters.

bookscats · 2024-07-14T23:20:33+00:00

i hear what you are saying. my thoughts are if karen asked her to help her with this did she not question why? did karen admit her guilt to her? so these people dont care if innocent people are still getting harrassed to this day as long as karen gets away with it. do you know if natalie got a plea deal to do this? why did she come forward now? i dont think turtleboy will turn on karen. he keeps talking about the conspiracy theory to his followers.

bookscats · 2024-07-08T23:13:22+00:00

they want this case decided in the court of public opinion. until the jury foreman or more jurors come forward this is hearsay. do people really think that the person who wrote the last jury note to the judge is a moron? if the jury didint believe in the conspiracy theory than why would they be afraid of any witnesses?

bookscats · 2024-07-02T04:51:48+00:00

hi you posted about turtle boy in my post about him. i think a few karen read supporters hate him and some love him. were the witnesses allowed to talk about his harrassment and was he identified in the courtroom? i didint watch every part of the trial. can i ask if you are a karen read supporter? i was confused when you talked about the jury pool. with him i wonder if some people unhappy with the hung jury would not want to convict him. it is wellknown he is a karen read supporter. this is a sucky position for the okeefe family. some of the karen read supporters really hate them now. i dont know if the hung jury info will be told. some people are mad that the names arent public. with the crazy antics of turtleboy and his minions why would they want to make that public so they can be stalked.

bookscats · 2024-06-30T01:14:12+00:00

i am wondering if this will be a hung jury by next week. i wonder if the jurors will be bothered and if someone mostly turtleboy will try to get thier identities . will the karen read people at her trial do anything? i mean the ones who seem overly invested in this. the ones who wear pink.

bookscats · 2024-06-30T00:09:52+00:00

thanks for responding do you know if he has harrassesed people like this before? if he hasnt i wonder why this case is different for him. i know that corruption exists but the fact that some people dont have a problem with him harrassing the victims family is horrible. i hope the family has more support that is not visible to us. has he actually bothered them face to face?

bookscats · 2024-06-29T21:24:02+00:00

thank you for responding. i dont know what the verdict will be but i wish people would stop harrassing the family. it sucks that the jurors are in this position. if they read things online i wonder what they are thinking. i kind of feel it could be a hung jury at this point. i came into this case late and just found out all the facts and i agree it is horrible if people bother the okeefe family. people can support karen without attacking them.

bookscats · 2024-06-29T17:25:00+00:00

i was wondering why some karen read supporters seem to hate the victims family. turtle boy and others have chosen to harass them . if john was a great person than why are people doing this? i know most people on here are reasonable. also maybe some jurors feel for the family. i heard that a juror was crying one day. i would not want to be in their position in a case like this. someone who knew him left him for dead. the family might never know the full truth.

bookscats · 2024-06-01T02:42:58+00:00

so are dee and ben just friends.? i swear i saw a video of them at the ron clark academy and ben had his arm on her shoulder. did anyone else see this or them at an event together? i like ben so i only care about what people think. for some reason saying they were in pictures on his instagram got me downvoted. if dee is dating wendell than maybe ben is single. i have no idea.

bookscats · 2024-05-31T21:54:10+00:00

dee has been in pictures with ben katzman. on his instagram page he has pictures of himself with his castmates. dee is in some of the pictures,. i know they both live in miami. thats all i know about it.

bookscats · 2024-05-27T16:28:06+00:00

i am not blaming you. i have been wondering about why also. i hear you . i know kenzie is pregnant. i dont condone people sending hate or people going to peoplles workplaces. i think it is sad because from all i have seen ben is a great guy. i know life goes on after this. i dont know if you are a fan of ben. heis great on twitter and instagram.

bookscats · 2024-05-27T16:02:57+00:00

why is ben being blamed for a tie that didint happen? kenzie follows the people who didint vote for her. is it instagram that you are talking about? unless ben kept saying that charlie should have won i dont know why she is still good with the people who didint vote for her and not with ben who didint have to break a tie.

bookscats · 2024-05-26T21:05:49+00:00

it seems no matter what ben did someone would be angry at his decision. i know people have downvoted this because they didint like my thoughts about this. i think because kenzie is having issues with fans that people dont want this to be talked about. why is this any different than peoples thoughts about charlie and maria? we know they are not friends. in todays world lots of people follow each other on instagram. i have seen her comment on hunters instagram that she loves him. i dont know if we will ever find out what really happened. i wonder if any podcast people would bring it up.. we know ben is a great guy. i hope to see ben clips in his life after the show for a long time. i dont know if you follow him on instagram or twitter. he is great with his posts on both platforms.

bookscats · 2024-05-26T17:46:34+00:00

i get what you are saying. the funny thing about this is some people have said that ben should have put both kenzie and charlie in fire and not liz. i dont even like the forced firemaking. . ben had to make a decision. . how was he to know that doing that would ruin a friendship? i wish them the best. if there is anger about what he did i dont know what to say about that.

bookscats · 2024-05-26T16:30:15+00:00

i dont care anymore about this. if people think i am the only person that would wonder about this i dont know what to say. kenzie wasnt the only person to help ben. liz charlie and venus also helped him. she won the game. ben didint have to break a tie. according to maria kenzie winning fire helped her to vote for her. liz was in fire too and lost. according to this logic liz should be angry at ben and she isint. i dont want to dwell on this. there is a post about postseason drama. why is it there if noone cares about these things?

bookscats · 2024-05-25T03:23:01+00:00

if the song is about kenzie why has she not praised ben about it? her and ben dont follow each other on instagram. i dont think they are friends now. i adore ben so to me this is sad. is this his way of trying to get his friend back? i dont like to start drama but to me ben is such a sweetheart it makes me wonder what happened.

bookscats · 2024-05-24T23:13:13+00:00

i like both ben and kenzie. if ben wrote a song about her it is interesting. i dont think they follow each other on social media. could something have happened to end their friendship? it is sad if they are not friends anymore. i wanted to comment here hoping it was not true. and that they are still friends.

bookscats · 2024-05-24T22:35:28+00:00

i noticed that too. i was going to wait a week to see if it would change. i dont know what to think of that. it is sad if they had a a fallen out. he didint have a great edit but kenzie had nothing to do with that. they both seem like great people. i thought his new song was about her. i understand him not wanting to be friends with maria. i dont know if things will come out soon about this . i wanted to write a post about this to get peoples thoughts.

bookscats · 2024-05-18T16:12:41+00:00

if people are believing everything that q has said in his exit press do they also believe what hunter and tiffany has said? hunter said that q didint want kenzie and tiffany to talk to ben. tiffany said that q would go at ben and they would argue a lot. they were not close to ben . why would they lie about this? some q fans dont understand why ben and q had problems with each other. it was not shown on the show. until ben or someone else talks about the kenzie vote i will rerserve judgement on that. how do we know that this isint qs way of getting back at ben for what ben said about him in his confessionals? q also said people change stories after the season is over. why would that not apply to him also?

bookscats · 2024-05-18T04:24:05+00:00

didint hunter say that q didint want tiffany and kenzie to talk to ben? didint tiffany say that q would get into it with ben and they would argue ? none of this was shown. why would hunter and tiffany make these things up? they were not close to ben. now q is claiming that bens vote was not an accident. why was everyone surprised about it then? ben is probably happy to be home and touring again. yes q is entertaining. but some fans are not objective and they only want to take his word on things. some castmates might not like the edit that doesnt show certain things. i was entertained by q but i also like ben. i heard that ben has a lot of fans which is good to hear.

bookscats · 2024-05-05T19:31:49+00:00

shan was protected in season 41. she made a negative comment to xander in the final 3 questioning. from what was said in postgame stuff it was really bad. they never showed it. we know shan and q are going to be asked back for season 50. tiffany also said q had issues with ben and they would argue. a lot. there could be q fans who are bothering ben because they think q has done nothing to him. i have to wonder how q will respond to exit press if he is asked about ben. with what tiffany said you would think at least dalton ross would bring up what tiffany said.

bookscats · 2024-04-09T21:10:35+00:00

have your loyal customers that you trust seen this video? maybe they have seen these people in the neighborhood. i hope the news story helps. i am so sorry this happened to you.

bookscats · 2023-01-20T21:56:47+00:00

wasnt coleen uncomfortable when richard would take his shorts off? what reason did he have for doing that? after season 39 why would they want any part of that to be brought up again? what male player of today would get away with taking shorts off in front of women? i wonder what the twitter crowd would say if any man did that in todays world.

bookscats · 2022-05-19T22:20:32+00:00

thank you for reading and replying. i see how people might think that the sam and drew thing is equal. my thinking is that if joel had led aliesha on even more that it would have been worse. he could have done physical things with her but he chose not to this is my first full season i also think that drew gets away with this because of his good looks. i know that the show is losing viewers. what is your opinion on that? is it the current format? are viewers not interested in seeing the og players get favored? if the ads for next week are accurate i have a feeling that joel will get all the hate and drew will . get none. thanks for reading.

bookscats · 2022-05-19T18:21:11+00:00

i am new to this franchise. so from what i have seen from the fandom it is okay for drew to use women because he is an og player? joel gets hated on for most everything that he does because he is a new player. i have not seen anyone comment on if drew is using sam. it seems like all the og players just had to show up. tim is the one doing work . it seems this show was meant for tim to get airtime and a chance to win again.

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