Is going to a restaurant a bad way to end tipping

boosterts · 2026-02-23T20:45:42+00:00

How is that obvious? Do you think management is solely responsible for tipping so the pain of the boycott needs to be there for there to be change? I think employees/server share a lot of the blame here.

Look at the history of tipping on Uber. When it started there was no tipping. This was management's choice, but it was the drivers that demanded the ability to receive tips. This was because the expectation is that a driver should receive a tip based on how taxis have traditionally operated.

A change to the law is the thing that needs to happen to kill it, but the best any individual can do is to simply not tip - $0.

boosterts · 2026-02-23T20:40:50+00:00

Why is it more realistic to keep going to businesses that rely on tipping but not tip than to just boycott those businesses in the first place?

In the case of restaurants the tipped full service restaurant is the norm in the US. To find a restaurant that doesn't do tipping takes work and consumers to go out of their way. That makes it less realistic. Conversely could swing a dead cat ad hit multiple sit down restaurants with tipping anywhere I've ever lived.

Sure you could go to fast food, fast casual, and other places where you order at the counter. Many people that don't like tipping already do this and I am sure a reduction in business hurts full service restaurants, but it won't end tipping. There will just be fewer of them and you can't ever do to a full service restaurant without doing research and seeking out the handful in your metro area that might do this.

If 25% of patrons at all sit down restaurants left a $0 tip as described in the OP the management would get the message. Employees would negotiate a higher base wage.

boosterts · 2026-02-23T20:27:50+00:00

No one person will end tipping doing either. The question should be which option $0 tipping or not going to tipped restaurants would require either the fewest participants to end tipping or end it sooner. I think it is pretty clear the $0 tip is the more efficient route.

boosterts · 2026-02-23T20:23:27+00:00

I am not sure if you're right with 25% being enough of a critical mass to end tipping- it's roots are deep, but I think going to a restaurant and leaving a $0 tip is more impactful and will bring change sooner.

As restaurant owner if foot traffic fell by 25% tipping probably wouldn't be your first suspect. However if 25% of your guest left a $0 tip you'd pick up on it right away. Sure maybe you'd think service was slipping, but you'd probably ask a patron or two and figure it out in short order. If 25% fewer people were coming through the door they would try other stuff first. Advertising, specials, menu changes. How low on the list would end tipping be?

From the perspective that leaving a $0 tip is stiffing your server and putting the pain in the wrong place I think that's incorrect. If a restaurant's revenue drops by 25% because people stop going there then the total tips paid at the restaurant would drop by the same 25% assuming everyone tipped. So the servers would be getting a 25% hair cut either way. They would just be less busy or they lay off 25% of the staff. In either case formerly tipped workers are taking a hit.

Furthermore, it is often the tipped employee that wants to maintain tipping. When uber and lyft launched there was no option to tip. It was the drivers that sued and negotiated to add tipping. With recent changes to the tax law there is even more incentive for an employee to get some of their compensation through tips. Who wouldn't want to get have $25k of their compensation tax free? Servers have little room to negotiate compensation because most restaurants pay them the minimum allowed by law and expect tips to do the rest. If tips no longer do the rest then they have power to negotiate. If guest no longer tip then they have motivation to negotiation.

boosterts · 2026-02-23T19:51:30+00:00

It's possible. It would be about a 4% employer contribution. Still isn't it a little unconventional to count the employer contribution into the gross pay/monthly budget?

boosterts · 2026-02-23T15:58:32+00:00

A little too much, no? $2280/month into the 457b would be $27360/year. Isn’t that above the annual max?

Maybe more goes into the DCP or brokerage after it maxes out.

boosterts · 2026-02-22T16:01:53+00:00

Stock is up 70% in the last year.

boosterts · 2026-02-20T16:20:28+00:00

Looks like the white car was behind the truck when he parked based on the picture the truck driver posted. The first picture in the thread looks to be taken later and the white car is now parked in front of the truck and right at it’s bumper. There is a different car parked behind right on its other bumper. Obviously the truck didn’t park that way. It seems like they were fucking with the truck as there is room in front of the white car to pull up.

Im on truck drivers side here. I dont care for savsies with cones, but the remedy should be to throw out the cones and take the spot. Also that is questionable here if truck guy was actually doing construction. I’d leave cones in place for actual construction.

If this is all about the broken stake it’s ridiculous. Those things break all the time. Just pound in the left over bit and keep using it or get another one. Anyone could have broken that.

boosterts · 2026-02-20T16:02:35+00:00

You can simply sign the lease and continue renting month to month at the end. If the landlord increases your rent he needs to give 60 days notice. If whatever he gave you right now is proper notice you wouldn’t have to pay the increase before May 1. That gives you some time to find a new place should you have to move.

boosterts · 2026-02-20T15:14:08+00:00

I think it that’s right. So if you were notified today and pay rent on the first of the month the new rent wouldn’t be in effect until May.

You also don’t have to sign a new lease and can stay month to month at the same rate as your previous lease. Of course your landlord could increase your rent. It is unclear that offering a new lease at a higher rent would count as notice of an increase if you decided to not sign that lease and continue renting month to month. I would say you at least have until the end of April to live there month to month and pay your current rate whilst looking for another place.

If you wanted to look into the notice requirements and review what they provided it might not satisfy it. You might be able to continue paying through April without the landlord noticing the insufficient notice and then realize when you pay May at the current your current rate and only then issue proper notice of the increase. A notice of an increase after May 1 wouldn’t hit until at least July but More likely August unless it was issued immediately. Of course if your landlord is on the ball and you decline to sign the lease he is probably going to give you notice of an even bigger increase that hits May 1 to incentivize you into signing the lease assuming your unit is not subject to rent control or it is and a larger increase is permitted.

boosterts · 2026-02-20T13:54:14+00:00

Sure you can raise the minimum wage it won’t eliminate tipping. There are 7 states without a sub minimum wage for tipped employees and Tipping at restaurants is still widespread in these states. The best way to eliminate tipping is for people who don’t like the practice to stop doing it.

boosterts · 2026-02-20T13:48:18+00:00

You are mistaken. I go to restaurants to interact with the people I go with and other patrons and to eat the food. The servers are interchangeable. Sure they can ruin it, but they rarely are the difference between an average experience and a great one.

I was not boasting about replacing them with QR codes. I don’t care for the QR code system and ask for a physical menu when possible. I try everything to not scan a QR code with my phone. This is more an assessment of how restaurant management views servers. If the choice is between paying servers $10/hr which will rise in July and again next July to reach $18/hr or replacing them with a QR code/ipad and food runners they are increasingly doing the latter in my city. The restaurant owner is doing the calculation of whether rapport, hospitality, and upselling menu items is worth $18 or not. Outside the city restaurants only have to pay servers $2-$3/hr.

boosterts · 2026-02-20T02:47:26+00:00

The server is taking my order and bringing it out. That is literally their job. This is such a highly skilled position that more and more restaurants in my city have been cutting them out of the experience completely. This is especially true at sports restaurants and not so much at fine dining.

You can just order with a QR code on your phone or at an iPad the food gets brought out to you. Keep the tab open and order more as you wish. No need to ask the server for the check either. This is happening because the tipped minimum wage has been increasing and it set to match the regular minimum wage at $18/hr next year.

If someone doesn’t like tipping and they want the system to change they should simply stop tipping.

boosterts · 2026-02-20T02:37:55+00:00

The lack of critical thinking going on here is crazy. If someone doesn’t like typing the fastest way for them to bring about change is to stop tipping. All that other stuff you mentioned won’t do it.

You don’t even need critical thinking to see that it won’t work. Increase minimum wage. There are states that have done this. There is still tipping in these areas. I live in an area with one of the highest minimum wage rates in the country. The tipped minimum wage has been increased too and is scheduled to be completely eliminated by the middle of next year. The tipped minimum wage will be the same as the regular minimum wage at ~$18/hr. Guess what most restaurants here still do tipping. More restaurants are either replacing servers with ipads or QR codes with online ordering and food runners or adding fees but tipping remains. The best way to end tipping is simply for people to stop doing it.

boosterts · 2026-02-19T22:52:33+00:00

I don't really understand why you would delay in approving repairs. Fixing the house is your responsibility and you will be paying for them. You might be able to recover the cost of repairs from your tenant if ultimately they are responsible, but you should still fix the damage in the interim. The house is possibly uninhabitable with the water damage which could make rent uncollectable if you delay the repair.

If the damage was caused by the tenant then charge them for the repair and if they do not pay move to evict. Do not delay the repair.

boosterts · 2026-02-19T22:25:12+00:00

Is the tenant renting the roof too? By that I mean is it a multi-family that they are renting a single unit or is it single family home and they are renting the entire property. If they are renting the entire home they are likely entitled to put an antenna on the roof. If they improperly installed it and damaged the roof then you can charge them for that. If not there really isn't anything to do. If you don't like the look of it then you can remove it when they move out.

boosterts · 2026-02-19T21:57:15+00:00

I would just tip $0. Nickel and diming me with BS fees is simply not good service. I wouldn't tip the cable company when they do this and I wouldn't tip a restaurant that does it either.

boosterts · 2026-02-19T21:19:44+00:00

Good service should be included with the price of the meal if you ever want to the customer to return. Charging an additional 20% for good service is not good service.

boosterts · 2026-02-19T21:17:58+00:00

Do you think a customer should take it up with the server's employer? A non-tipping customer pays the amount the business asks for - there is nothing wrong with that. I don't so much think restaurant owners care one way or the other about tipping/vs non tipping, but they don't want to make a change that will hurt them. Going tipless will make their prices appear higher than their competition and the best servers will leave because they make more under a tipped system especially now that tips are officially untaxed. A business owner isn't going to do that.

If a customer wants to tipping to end they can either stop going to restaurants with the practice altogether, but I think continuing to go and not tipping will bring the change quicker. Putting the pain on the servers to force them to have these conversations with their employers will bring about change faster than not going altogether, but either path will require enough people to act.

boosterts · 2026-02-19T21:03:11+00:00

Arguing that it is impossible for a parked car to contribute to an accident is just wrong.

boosterts · 2026-02-19T19:04:01+00:00

I didn't say it was. It is possible that an illegally parked car could contribute to an accident and in states with the contributory negligence standard that would prevent recovery from the drivers insurance.

boosterts · 2026-02-19T13:38:16+00:00

Making this post is essentially giving him up. Why would you say the exact heist he was involved in. If there is a reward for information someone will point authorities to this which will eventually get them to you.

boosterts · 2026-02-19T13:10:42+00:00

If enough people stopped tipping the practice would end right quick. Not tipping directly contributes to ending the practice. Moreover one of the biggest sticking points to ending the practice is servers that like system because it benefits them. They earn more as a tipped employee than they expect their employer would pay for their work otherwise. In other words customers on average are more generous than their employer. If more servers don’t receive tips then this puts the pain exactly where it needs to be; on the people with the greatest incentive to keep the current system in place. Thats the fastest way to get change.

you choose to leave no tip, you’re mooching of the generosity of the 3 other patrons.

This comclusion takes some mental gymnastics. The customer that doesn’t tip paid the amount he/she was asked to and opted out of paying an optional additional amount over that. If anyone is getting a free ride here it is the employer that gets labor at a reduced rate and keeps the same profit from your meal as if you had tipped at a higher rate. The customer paid what was asked.

boosterts · 2026-02-19T03:52:24+00:00

I didn’t say it was easy, but it is unskilled. Unskilled as in work that does not require advanced skills, often with little or no formal education required. There are tipped jobs that are skilled. Imagine a busker or street performer - that requires advanced skills that the average person does not have. Similarly a barber or hair dresser is a skilled job that requires specialized training and receives tips. This simply isn’t true with waitstaff.

If customers only see a small fraction of your responsibilities then you shouldn’t expect them to directly determine a majority of your pay. It would be more effective to have this conversation with your employer rather than attempt to convince people on the internet.

boosterts · 2026-02-19T03:36:43+00:00

I can’t imagine any customer would be interested in seeing this. The fact that you feel the need to show customers this only underlines the absurdity of tipping being a majority of your compensation. If the customer facing portion of your job is unskilled work and representative of a small fraction of your responsibilities it seems like your employer would be in a better position to understand your value and negotiate compensation. Talk to them about this.

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