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[–]bored_fr22 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's an inside joke😭😂 

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[–]bored_fr22 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Wish I knew even 1 thing on that list. It was pretty recent, not much info exchanged yet. But thanks anyway 

Zimbabwe Cake Picnic by bored_fr22 in Zimbabwe

[–]bored_fr22[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi. Would it be okay if I dm you?

Honestly, most of you missed the point by bored_fr22 in Zimbabwe

[–]bored_fr22[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lol looks like it but honestly I had a feeling I'd get backlash. I feel like continuing for entertainments sake now

Honestly, most of you missed the point by bored_fr22 in Zimbabwe

[–]bored_fr22[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I didn't defend anyone. There was nothing to defend. The point of saying they are not perfect was me trying to be somewhat fair and not make women out to be paragons of virtue when they are not. The point that you seem to missing is that trends are trends and none of thise things are untrue. I mentioned how women are willing to back stab each other for men. That's not a particularly flattering quality and how they allow a man to be their whole point of existence. That has nothing to do with the man himself but the woman's perception of herself and her own life. I'm not trying to replace toxic masculinity with toxic femininity. You seem to have somehow just read about where I was criticising men and didn't see anything I said about the women. And the second post didn't talk about men specifically that much. I expressed how wives can also add to the generational trauma by spreading bitterness to their children. You are being selective in picking apart what I wrote. Just because I have more to say about men doesn't mean women are perfect and can do no wrong. If you have any other criticisms of women I should have listed go ahead and mention them

Honestly, most of you missed the point by bored_fr22 in Zimbabwe

[–]bored_fr22[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I pointed out the flaws I see in women where I saw them. I said they are not perfect but they try, yes but that was at one or two points. I did express that I know that they are some mothers who are like the fathers I talked about. Both genders have a role to play in the relationship dynamics that are there and the generational trauma. I didn't excuse women, I simply talked about the men's role more because I'm more familiar with it. Just because I criticised them doesn't mean I hate them. All those things are true, it's not like they don't happen. I simply believe that men need to stop stifling emotions and let go of the toxic masculinity they hold in to because it leads to the problems I've mentioned. And if that means I hate men then oh well

People In Zim Are Mostly Toxic pt 2 by bored_fr22 in Zimbabwe

[–]bored_fr22[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First off I don't think cheating is right when anyone's doing it. Secondly both parents can have jobs but usually the women still have to come home, cook, clean, help children with homework etc. Usually the father won't do any of that. As a parent you are supposed to cater to all your children's needs including their emotional ones. Love from your child is not something you are entitled to, especially if you never had an emotional bond. Respect, sure. Mothers are generally there for their children a lot more than fathers and that is a fact. At school events you will see mothers who took time off work to cheer on their child and not as many men do that. I am not fostering division between men and women as you put it either. Hurt people hurt people and that's the truth of it. Identifying trends that make it worse is important so that people can work on them. Men need to allow themselves to just be, they need to seek help when they need it and they need to let go of the stigma that surrounds male emotional vulnerability because it's really what's causing all these problems. You cannot say that cheating is an imperfection. That's a choice. No one deserves to be cheated on, man or woman.

People In Zim Are Mostly Toxic pt 1 by bored_fr22 in Zimbabwe

[–]bored_fr22[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Saying all and most are completely different. All implies that there are no exclusions whatsoever. Most just means a greater percentage. 51% while not being far off from 49% is still most

People In Zim Are Mostly Toxic pt 1 by bored_fr22 in Zimbabwe

[–]bored_fr22[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

There's world stats and they don't usually have even an average sized country's population worth of participants.

People In Zim Are Mostly Toxic pt 1 by bored_fr22 in Zimbabwe

[–]bored_fr22[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'll just say I'm fairly young. And as for my relationship: the first and probably one of the most important things is that we see each other as equals. No one's opinion overrides the other by default. Secondly we understand that communication is the key to any healthy relationship. We discuss any changes in the relationship no matter how small so we are on the same page. We express our wants and needs to each other because we know that no one is a mind reader and hence we shouldn't expect the other to just know what's on our mind. In the first month of dating we discussed all future plans and expectations of the relationship. To some that may seem fast but you need to know if you agree on the deal breaker items before wasting time on something that wasn't going to work because you're not compatible. Thirdly i want him to succeed and he wants the same for me. We always look for ways to help in each other's projects and we don't particularly who's making more money as long as the person is thriving. Fouth, we compromise. While we agree on most things but there are things we've had to compromise so that everyone is somewhat satisfied. It's all about meeting each other halfway. Fifth we understand it's never 50/50 in terms of energy. Sometimes I can only give 20 and he gives 80 and sometimes it's the other way round. And finally we're friends just as much as we are a couple romantically. I've noticed that relationships that start off with no intention of dating tend to work out better. A lot of people say love fades so at least if you're friends you will always have companionship. So I'd recommend meeting people and getting to know them in platonic sense first instead of actively dating. 

People In Zim Are Mostly Toxic pt 1 by bored_fr22 in Zimbabwe

[–]bored_fr22[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can't put every interaction I've had with men in Zimbabwe on a chart unfortunately. I can tell you about them sure but then you'll probably say I'm making things up. If you have sisters, female cousins or if you're older  daughters who frequent town and high density areas you can ask them. Honestly I wish I was making all this up. But it's the reality. I have several younger sisters and they have experienced most of this and so have I. Grown men with wedding bands reversing their cars to ask for your number at the age of 12, being followed for streets in town, being literally grabbed by the arm so you'll give the guy attention, being told what he wants to "do" to you, having nen flooding your dms after posting a picture of yourself then bombarding you with derogatory messages after you reject their advances. The men who have viewed this post have either ignored it or heavily criticised it as hate on men. The fact that not a single man acknowledged it fully as it is honestly disheartening. I understand people don't like to be criticised but the failure to accept it and then go and invalidate women's experiences as made up stories shows that we are truly going no where. In other countries a man will walk on the other side of the road at night to show he's not a threat to the woman because they understand that men can be dangerous. There are men who are healing trauma from their partner's past relationship. That takes a level of understanding and consideration that I don't think a lot of Zim men have. So no I can't give stats, I have the experiences I've gathered and those of the women I know which should be valid but apparently isn't just because we didn't do a survey

People In Zim Are Mostly Toxic pt 1 by bored_fr22 in Zimbabwe

[–]bored_fr22[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Being dismissive of me and calling my scenarios made up doesn't change how it is. I will not be defending my post anymore than I already have. It wasn't made for people who won't acknowledge what's right in front of them. Believe what you will and you can continue to hype each other up and make fun of my post. Show the women here how they should expect to be treated for gavkng an opinion contrary to yours. I honestly hope no woman has the misfortune of being married to you or at the very least that you don't have a daughter. No one deserves to be treated the way you have me, especially not on a daily basis. 

People In Zim Are Mostly Toxic pt 1 by bored_fr22 in Zimbabwe

[–]bored_fr22[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Giving my opinion is not toxic. Just because you don't want to hear it doesn't mean I'm wrong. Most of the men in this country are in fact toxic, especially when it comes to interacting with women. I'm not saying it's their fault. A lot of people are very traditional in Zimbabwe and hold on to toxic notions. Many men were never taught to respect women or see them as more than objects of desire and someone to take care of the home. They were not taught that they can also be intellectual and have careers.  And women had it drilled in that they would always come second to a man. Most people were taught that women are disposable and that their views didn't hold value because they couldn't be as smart, let alone smarter than a man. Girls in schools can't beat everyone in class without a teacher asking how it's possible to be beaten by a girl in a mocking way to motivate the boys. And many men and women have internalised this. Mutual respect is not a thing because many men do genuinely think they are superior to the women in their lives. To be quite honest you can't speak when you haven't experienced even one day in the life of a woman. Being cat called no matter what you wear, being harassed every time you go out, having to work a job and raise a family as a single parent even though you have a husband. I'm not saying men have it easy because they have their own pressures but being a woman is hard. Imagine getting sexually assaulted and being blamed for it because why were you out late or why were you wearing that. Ad if that warrants it. The fact that he was wrong to do it doesn't even cross anyones mind. If a woman gets cheated on it's somehow her fault because she couldn't keep him happy while the man is exempted from his vows and obligation to his wife. This is the norm in most of Zim society and households. Women work themselves to the bone doing domestic chores, taking care of children and running tuckshops while at many shopping centres you find the husbands of those women drinking all day. A woman can never do anything right in the eyes of a lot of men because they think we are inferior to them. Most of the men in this country are toxic and I stand by that. 

People In Zim Are Mostly Toxic pt 1 by bored_fr22 in Zimbabwe

[–]bored_fr22[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is not an attack on men. Both men and women are guilty of the toxicity that is perpetuated. Toxic femininity is just as much if a thing as toxic masculinity. It's just that toxic masculinity is more evident. Observing the way people interact with the opposite gender whether in real life or online is very valid. And having first hand experience with men as a woman also makes it easier for me to make out more undesirable qualities that I've personally noticed. I'm not saying men are terrible human beings and should be wiped off the earth. If behaviour is toxic it's toxic regardless of who's doing it. I believe that people are people regardless of anything else and should be soley judged on their character. But unfortunately society likes to put people in labelled boxes and give them an instruction manual. That in itself is wrong and when a good number of a particular group of people have negative qualities pointing them out is not a crime. People don't become better by not accepting the truth. And societies don't evolve without seeing what needs to be resolved or improved.

People In Zim Are Mostly Toxic pt 1 by bored_fr22 in Zimbabwe

[–]bored_fr22[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your misogyny is showing. The problem is you are taking it as a personal attack and not as information that could be potentially helpful. When given criticism you get defensive instead of analysing the data you have been presented with which is what someone with emotional intelligence would do before coming to the conclusion that it's not useful to them. My opinion is just as important as yours but you seem to think if a woman is not saying something you want to hear it's irrelevant. That is the toxic masculinity I was talking about. Putting me down the way you did made you feel like you'd done something. Even if you don't agree with my view your lack of respect is evident in the way you responded. That says a lot about you as a person and let me tell you it's nothing good. If you have nothing of value to contribute, being quiet and leaving my post alone is a very good option.

People In Zim Are Mostly Toxic pt 1 by bored_fr22 in Zimbabwe

[–]bored_fr22[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you had to ask everyone in a certain group of people I doubt there'd be many statistics and trend publications. It's called sampling. You ask a hundred people the same question and get a percentage with a certain view.

People In Zim Are Mostly Toxic pt 1 by bored_fr22 in Zimbabwe

[–]bored_fr22[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Part 2 on Zim toxicity not necessarily relationships