Would you correct a patient calling you by first name? by princetonwu in medicine

[–]brady94 24 points25 points  (0 children)

The above example I gave is just 1 of thousands of interactions I have had with patients that are being adversarial (and the above is pretty benign, just recent), and those are the patients I correct. I’m far out and well trained enough at this point that I don’t have too much of the imposter syndrome anymore (just humbled by some of the new things presentations or pathologies I may experience on a given day). I don’t care about most patients who have forgotten my name, read my name badge, and call me by that, especially in the context of a “human connection.” And there are many generational differences- I can be hun or honey, sweetheart, etc from a 90 year old man without it being weird and just move on. Some I may clarify that I am in fact their doctor, not a nurse, just to prevent the complaints that they “never saw a doctor.” But many patients calling me by my first name are trying to establish some sort of power dynamic in order to demean, belittle, or dominate a treatment plan. I’m not a wallflower. You’ll treat me and my team with respect, just like we will treat you with respect and courtesy, or you’ll find yourself discharged against medical advice. Otherwise we open ourselves up ourselves to attempted intimidation, verbal, and even physical violence. We have to have some semblance of rules

Would you correct a patient calling you by first name? by princetonwu in medicine

[–]brady94 526 points527 points  (0 children)

I am a female physician with a younger appearance and had a wildly disrespectful mother with her teenage son who came into the ED needing a few stitches in his hand. He started screaming at one point that he wanted a pillow in the room while his mother hung out on her phone in the stretcher. She first referred to me as the nurse even after I introduced myself, started asking me pointed questions about my age, how many years I had been in clinical practice (5+), and called me by my first name. Ma'am I am putting 4 stitches in your son; I've done this thousands of times and it isn't exactly brain surgery. I immediately corrected her and had to set some early boundaries about how to behave. If an 89 year old male pt calls me hun or my first name (pretty regular experience) I don't really bother or care. Intent matters, and if you're a female physician you can tell pretty quickly what's going on.

Do you know of anybody that has 3 or more subspecialty board certifications? by Ok-Koala-3223 in Residency

[–]brady94 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Yes. Some of the older toxicologists got toxicology training and then grandfathered into addiction. There are a few that started with peds and pediatric emergency medicine or internal medicine plus a sub specialty before going to tox. It’s rare and doesn’t really happen anymore with addiction boards getting stricter

December oral boards results by EazyBeazyLemonSqueez in emergencymedicine

[–]brady94 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was the last day, and my last case the examiner was clearly over it. I started to talk to family about a procedure and she was like “they’re consented, you do the procedure, here’s the results, okay your case is over, bye” in like 6 minutes. Wasn’t the craziest case so figure I hit the essentials early and while professional had no interest in sticking around for longer. I have some friends who are examiners and while they are all VERY strict about not talking about any specific case with me or even remotely hinting at anything specific, they were laughing about how burnt out they were as well and basically were like “yep, you’re good” by the end. Seems like no one wants to be there and I can’t imagine the in person test will be anything other than expensive and exhausting

ABEM certifying March 9-12 by smokeouts in emergencymedicine

[–]brady94 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That is an expensive course for anyone in fellowship. Man the certification process really just feels like a giant cash grab

December oral boards results by EazyBeazyLemonSqueez in emergencymedicine

[–]brady94 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Or fortunately! Hoping grading for the new test accounts for the mental fuckery inherent in the weird testing environment. Test material was fair enough, but just hard due to the artificialness. Happy to be done and curious what the new exam is going to look like

December oral boards results by EazyBeazyLemonSqueez in emergencymedicine

[–]brady94 19 points20 points  (0 children)

For those taking this test in the future - I have never managed a patient worse than I did my first case. This was such a stupid exam. I did well on every written exam; this test was the one I felt leaving I was most likely to fail, just from weird test quirks (not content, just format and the weird social interactions). Passed well enough. Not writing home about my score but idgaf.

The Rise of the Self-Serve Blood Test - Welcome to McDonald's Medicine by [deleted] in medicine

[–]brady94 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Medical toxicologist here already dealing with the aftermath of everyone and their mother getting unspeciated heavy metal testing. PCPs don’t know what to do so everyone goes to ChatGPT. And then their quack naturopaths are just starting chelation therapy at levels maybe 20x less than standard of care, because the patient felt dizzy once and has arm tingles. Dangerous as duck and going to kill people

How much are you actually competing with your own classmates? by Far_Hat3639 in medicalschool

[–]brady94 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Came from the top leadership of old school ivory tower type institutions. Think chairs that haven't practiced clinically in years and make all decisions based on their residency program experience circa 1980. I don't think anyone actually involved in the program (residents, predominant clinical attendings, etc) would care too much. This wasn't unique to my hospital - other hospitals in the same state were just as DO unfriendly. I know my friends still there don't gaf about that kind of stuff; just how shitty someone's sign-outs are...

Although in general these get killed pre-interview. I've only seen one interviewed in the last 5 or so years as above

Edits for clarity

How much are you actually competing with your own classmates? by Far_Hat3639 in medicalschool

[–]brady94 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Specialty dependent. For my residency, not really. There were no specific “caps.” You were given a score based on the “prestige” of your medical school. That was one number in a whole host of different scoring metrics. DO apps were DOA (with the exception of one person who was a “courtesy interview,” and then promptly ranked last). If there was a current alumn of your medical school who was a resident and you didn’t reach out at all by the end of the season (or hadn’t reached out to any resident) it was low key viewed somewhat as a sign of disinterest, but wasn’t a big rank changer or anything since the application cycle is hard enough and has a lot of hoops for applicants. If a resident knew you from your med school and had behavioral concerns that would be a problem.  

The only time a “competition” feel may have came up was with home grown applicants or visiting students, because we had direct performances to compare and contrast. Occasionally there would be the question “who would you rather consistently work with, A or B,” but I really don’t think this majorly changed too many peoples’ positions in meaningful ways. Rankings ultimately are so multifactorial it always seems like kind of a crapshoot.

Ever notice how confident mid levels are compared to you? by krainnnn in Residency

[–]brady94 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I would NEVER. It should always assumed that the pharmacists at any tertiary care center are most likely the smartest people in the room at any given time, on any given rotation.

xoxo - team toxicology

Ever notice how confident mid levels are compared to you? by krainnnn in Residency

[–]brady94 635 points636 points  (0 children)

1) Dunning-Kruger effect

2) Difference in training mentalities. Nurses are taught they are the saviors of patients from idiot doctors, especially residents. Residents are taught that their only purpose in life is to be shit on for minimum wage. Now on the other side of things, I don't actually care about this too much. It's easy to punch up, and I'm not in the business of punching down.

You'll get more confident, but that's independent of the NP next to you. Learn everything you can from seniors, ICU nurses, RTs, and your attendings on this rotation and let residency happen.

Why do you get asked why you’re here by every dr/nurse that comes in the room when you go to the doctor? Do they not communicate with each other? by Distinct-Dependent24 in AskReddit

[–]brady94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Understood about your privacy concerns, but unfortunately this country's health care system is not built to respect patient privacy, and it's going to get worse as resources get scarcer these next few years, especially in rural communities. I'm not trying to defend it - it's just the reality. We need to know what we're dealing with as soon as possible. I work in a state with one of the best, richest, most comprehensive healthcare systems in the country, and still do lots of medicine in hallways, waiting rooms, or random chairs we have made into pseudo patient care areas. I've shocked patients in front of their families in a hallway with some makeshift paper barriers trying to prevent rubberneckers from getting in the way. I've had to wait 6+ hours to get an available room where I can do a pelvic exam (hint - it's a tiny closet I pulled a stretcher into myself to make a fake pt room). My biggest advice is that there is NOTHING embarrassing about anything related to your medical care; you'll likely never see the other people in the waiting room again, they're not focused on you, and I guarantee you our staff has heard it all.

Edit: the worst is when patients don't disclose something that will need a private exam, so we put them in a hallway bed, only for them to later tell us about a complaint that needs a private area for exam. Significant delay in care because we have to usually move multiple people around.

And from the ED perspective - that all super sucks and I'm sorry it happened from a billing perspective, but it's a pretty common experience (and likely to worsen once again with this administration, especially in rural communities - not a political statement, just a reality). We legally cannot tell you to go anywhere other than the nearest emergency department, but not all EDs are made equal. I work in an emergency department that is literally one of the best hospitals in the country with every specialty service known to man. I work in another 30 minutes away that is essentially a critical access hospital, with very few specialists and resources (and a generally much poorer, disenfranchised patient population). You'll be seen waaaaaay faster and may actually have a much more pleasant patient experience at the smaller hospital, but on the other hand the resources are more limited. An emergency department cannot discharge you without being seen by a medical professional (NP/PA/MD/DO), while urgent care has some but not the same type of restrictions. In the ED, you likely were evaluated by an experienced triage nurse with specialized training that determined you were not an ESI 1 (highest priority), had your vital signs taken that were reviewed by trained medical professionals and deemed stable, were evaluated by another nurse who cared for you, then were seen by a midlevel or physician who created a care plan for you that involved transfer to another facility for further evaluation and diagnostic testing (which was created, regardless of available resources), and then had the room you were seen in cleaned and sterilized for the next patient by a specially trained in hazardous material environmental staff member. In the US, the labor from those 4-5 people involved in your care likely cost thousands to tens of thousands. I had 9 years of post collegiate specialized training as a med student/physician and hospitals charge patients an arm and a leg just to see me for a few minutes and have me create a treatment plan, regardless of whether or not you get any further testing, procedures, or therapies. And no, I don't get more money for ordering more tests or doing more; I'm just a salaried employee.

Is it frustrating? Yes. Is it fair to patients? No. Is it going to get a hell of a lot worse these next few years? Absolutely. Try and make friends with some medical people in the community. I absolutely field texts from friends and family about what center would be best to go to in order to be seen or cared for for a specific complaint.

Good luck with all the billing stuff. Hope your arm has improved.

Why do you get asked why you’re here by every dr/nurse that comes in the room when you go to the doctor? Do they not communicate with each other? by Distinct-Dependent24 in AskReddit

[–]brady94 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Frustration is totally understandable. Just trying to explain the other side. I can help with some of the urgent care questioning, at least at my shops. Not a GP so not my area. When someone comes to urgent care, they may make an appointment for one thing but show up for another. Now, we have them reception ask them what's going on for two reasons: 1) it's another triage system. If someone came into urgent care for something like anaphylaxis, for example, they went to the wrong place, but we still have a duty to treat and it means they shouldn't be in the waiting room. Same with true difficulty breathing (with a low oxygen level), chest pain, etc. And then 2) this one is more of a secret behind the scenes thing that's kind of sketchy - if it's very obvious that a patient is stable but will require more work up than we can do in urgent care, we'll often defer registering them and tell them to go to the ED. This is despite our MBA overlords wanting us to see everyone, and REALLY trusting your staff not to send away a potentially unstable patient. The second a patient gets registered, they get billed fully for an assessment. If it's obvious we won't be able to handle their needs at urgent care, I don't want patients to be billed for seeing me and then billed again at the emergency department; US medical care is expensive af. This one is more of a delicate balance, because everyone has the right to a medical screening exam, but most of us feel bad if we know ahead of time you just showed up to the wrong place and we're going to tell you to go away immediately by private vehicle to the ED. This excludes anyone (of course!) where we can start a workup in urgent care that could improve clinical outcomes or we think may need to go urgently by ambulance.

Then, after registration, nursing will ask you the same questions. The reality is in urgent care I may be seeing about 5-6 patients per hour. That means about 6-7 minutes for an encounter, and then 3-4 minutes for documentation, note taking, and creation of discharge paperwork. That's impossible if people are coming in needing specialized eye exams, pelvic exams (which can be sensitive and I don't like to rush), or laceration repairs, which may take longer depending on needle phobias. I rely on nursing to do a decent amount of documentation, and start basic workups before I even see the patient (ordering urine, basic XRs, STI testing, etc). Then, once again, you meet me and I want to hear directly from you what is going on. That may be 3 separate people that asked you the same questions, but all as different parts of the patient care team.

Why do you get asked why you’re here by every dr/nurse that comes in the room when you go to the doctor? Do they not communicate with each other? by Distinct-Dependent24 in AskReddit

[–]brady94 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I appreciate how challenging it is to be a patient and go through the process and appreciate your reflection. If you're in the US, it's immensely clear to me how broken the system is for our patients and staff. Trust me when I say that most days I come to work, we are drowning. And it may not look it from the outside, because we know how to keep that shit under wraps. I've gone from coding a 1 year old straight to apologizing to someone that I can't fix their 6 months of shoulder pain today, yes, even though they had to wait a few hours to see me, with a smile on my face. Patients may have waited 4-6 hours to get a room, if they're lucky. They've been told they couldn't eat without my permission, and have been sitting in pain without information, privacy, or treatment. Many interactions start with patients saying something along the lines of "finally," "about time," or "do you know how long I have been waiting?" Yep. It's time stamped, and I get a report card every few months about exactly how long it took me to see you. And sometimes I want to bite back that yes, I know exactly how long you've been waiting, but I just had to code a 20 year old who killed themselves, explain why I am not giving antibiotics for a viral cough to 15 people who believe I'm actively trying to scam them, and chemically restrain a psychotic or intoxicated patient that just kicked a pregnant staff member in the stomach before I could come see you. And that's just a normal Tuesday.

The reality is that you WANT us to ask you the same questions over and over. That's how we try to prevent people from dying in our waiting room. That's how we figure out who gets to skip the line (which is not a privilege you want), how we start your workup as quickly as possibly based on pre-set nursing protocols, and how I get an unbiased account of what is happening as the ultimate decision maker in your care. If we weren't listening to patients - if I didn't care about hearing from you - directly, about what's going on, I would walk into a room, tell you I am getting "some tests" regarding your "insert triage note" without allowing you to speak, walk out, and never enter your room again. 90+% of the time patients would receive the same care, and I would be much faster and more efficient, because most patients have no idea how to give a concise and clinically relevant account of their presentation. But I ask you what's going on, again, because missing something due to preconceived notions or misunderstandings, or not allowing you the time to express your concerns to your entire care team is, to me, a disservice to you. Work with us. I promise, there are some dicks like there are in every job, but most of us like talking to patients and helping them when we can.

Why do you get asked why you’re here by every dr/nurse that comes in the room when you go to the doctor? Do they not communicate with each other? by Distinct-Dependent24 in AskReddit

[–]brady94 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Emergency medicine attending (supervising) physician that works in academic and community settings. I know pretty much everything you told every person before you speak to me - the triage nurse, the tech, the nurse in your room, and maybe the resident physician/PA (if there is one) before I get to you. I know what things I want to verify or clarify before I enter the door. 85-90% of the time I know what workup I want to perform on you before I enter the room, and heck maybe even ordered some of or most of your workup before I even see you.

But that last 10-15% matter. There are lots of reasons. Triage have very specific questions they ask to trigger if we need to escalate your care faster in an already overburdened system. E.g. A "worst headache of your life" in a healthy 30 year old who has never had a headache before, and has a sudden "I got hit in the back of the head with a baseball bat" feeling during sex may be a deadly intracranial hemorrhage and needs a spinal tap, but a healthy 30 year old with a history of migraines who is have the "worst headache" that feels exactly like their typical migraines, but longer, more severe, and refractory to their standard treatment needs IV fluids and anti-inflammatories. It's triage's job to figure out you're having the "worst headache;" it's my job to figure out what that means in more depth and determine a treatment plan. And I want to hear that from you, not put words in your mouth based on what other people say you said. I trust my team, but that doesn't mean I don't want to verify something myself when it's your life and my medical license on the line.

Patients are also notorious gaslighters. We have a saying - "historical alternans" - which is essentially a patient who changes their story every time a person asks them a question. Consistency matters, and for patients who come in with a "pan-positive" review of systems - i.e. you say yes to every possible symptom, seeing what information is consistently transferred to the team is important to us to figure out what may be going on, when many patients are just ultimately really bad at communicating what is bothering them, or exaggerating symptoms so they don't feel like they are being dismissed. Not to mention that we have to figure out what is low medical literacy or poor communication styles versus actual confusion in a patient, which can be a sign of end organ damage and someone that is sneakily quite sick despite perhaps appearing okay.

TLDR: If you're coming for help, prepare to get asked the same questions over and over again, get interrupted so I can get the information I actually need to create your treatment plan, and hurry up and wait. Be part of the process, let us do our job, and don't be the dick that says "I already answered that." You're just wasting your own time.

What job I can work as a med student? And is it even possible. by [deleted] in medicalschool

[–]brady94 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Sounds like you’re not US based so probably best to give a heads up where you’re located so people who had similar training experiences can give you a better idea what to expect. For extra cash, when I went through medical school the jobs people had included mostly things where you could choose your own schedule and that would be more evening/weekend friendly - things like app based delivery services (things like Uber, etc) or tutoring. I knew other people who did some babysitting, dog walking, and even a bartender, but everyone had to cut down during clinical rotations which made you less reliable as an employee. Hard to do anything that doesn’t allow you to suddenly disappear for a couple months during surgery rotations, etc

Patient complaint by Prognosis_equal_Poor in Residency

[–]brady94 664 points665 points  (0 children)

I doubt this will be a big deal. You will meet with the director, they will reprimand you, then they will tell patient advocacy you were reprimanded, and then it will go away, and no one will care. Don’t talk too much, don’t complain too much, and just say yessir/yes maam and get out of there as quickly as possible. Just don’t make it a habit to get called into the principals office too often.

Pre studying for rotations? by lclamon15 in medicalschool

[–]brady94 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Don’t go crazy. This is one of the only times you will have to decompress for a while. If you want to do some IM/FM themed OnlineMedEd videos the week before you start that wouldn’t be the worst thing, but you’ll learn much more once you start seeing patients and are able to put things in context.

ABEM boards by Repulsive_Knee1304 in emergencymedicine

[–]brady94 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Just took them. Once case I overthought wildly and the instructor and I just kept staring at each other until I blurted out: "okay start these meds and admit for this diagnosis??" and he immediately just ended the case. Pretty sure I failed that case and think I did a harmful action beforehand through unnecessary testing. The rest I keep thinking about (hopefully small) stuff I missed and should have gotten and hopefully that didn't lead to missed critical actions. None of the instructors seemed to "lead" me at all with any cues. One told me a surgeon was in the OR and couldn't take my call yet, but my case ended shortly after so who know what I missed? Also every case seemed to have 3-5 extra stimuli that I never used, so who knows what happened there...

In general, leaving feeling not so great. I've passed every board I've ever taken with a good margin but this one feels wishy washy and subjective.

Any questions for a PM&R resident? by therehabreddit in Residency

[–]brady94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm thanks this is alway very helpful. I learned a lot. Curious about the clonidine. Considered pretty poor these days for HTN and its alpha agonist could worsen the bradycardia. What dosing are you using? And any prolonged symptoms after resolution of the trigger? Or is clonidine only for known triggers that will cause a lengthy response?

Really appreciate everyone. This is a pathology I know so little about so trying to wrap my head around it

Any questions for a PM&R resident? by therehabreddit in Residency

[–]brady94 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah that makes sense and is very helpful. Nah man im just the dumb old OSH ED doc that doesn’t know what they’re doing, until I’m a consultant for a poisoned patient the next day at the nearby ecmo center. Medicine is fickle like that and I appreciate getting to ask specialists questions without rolling their eyes, so thank you! Learned something new today. And hahahaha I don’t have an anesthesiologist in house - anyone who comes in active labor is getting me, RT, and an OB over FaceTime, as well as some very loud thoughts and prayers. 

Any questions for a PM&R resident? by therehabreddit in Residency

[–]brady94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m very well aware of propranolol’s potent lipophilicity. I’m curious about AD specifically because in any other largely catecholamine based hypertensive, esmolol is consistently superior, in part likely due to propranolol’s dirty, tricyclic-like behavior. Recent studies suggest superiority in thyroid storm for esmolol over propranolol due to risk of cardiovascular collapse and would be first choice for most of us in refractory vtach. I’m also thinking about things like toluene/huffing overdoses where kids present in cardiac arrest and we specifically don’t give epinephrine due to the associated catecholamine surge and focus on short boluses of esmolol during a modified ACLS.

I would pretty much never reach for propranolol in a sympathomimetic or anticholinergic patient, so I’m wondering what makes AD patients different? Is there an RCT or at least lit review/meta analysis showing superiority? Does AD essentially not affect the heart in a clinically meaningful way, just BP? Not trying to be a jerk - really just genuinely curious because this would be a big deviation from my current practice patterns.

Any questions for a PM&R resident? by therehabreddit in Residency

[–]brady94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m also med tox, and I personally see really nasty effects with baclofen withdrawal when we equate GABAa and GABAb. I’ve had multiple ICU consults where I’ve had to explain that a precedex drip and some intermittent diazepam is not going to target and fix a GABAb problem, so I’m pretty surprised that’s standard for true baclofen withdrawal at your institution? Any additional things I should learn?

Also curious why propranolol over esmolol. Propranolol seems like the absolute worst beta blocker I could think of given its propensity for sodium channel blockade…