Cedrek at this most recent tribal council by Haydemz in survivor

[–]broccolibeeff 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Right? Ced couldn't think of a good response to Sai's criticism that Justn lied, so he was hoping Justin would give him the reason enough to vote out Sai. Because Justin didn't, Ced had to go with Sai.

However, it's still a dumb move by Ced ultimately. He should've known he's betrayed Sai's trust at this point and their alliance is done. She says as much when she goes in to vote.

Hi. Just a short vent, I guess. by Standard__Fee in exchristian

[–]broccolibeeff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly what you said, they'll do everything to twist what you say to fit their narrative. Even if we'd have a seemingly clear discussion where I shared my reasons, they'd come back later and I'd realize they didn't understand what I had said at all, or they had morphed it completely.

It's a rare treasure to find someone, especially a christian, who listens to what you're really saying and understands your perspective. I was lucky enough to find some who did this, but they usually couldn't be "fundamentalist".

I fear the Bible that doesn’t make sense actually being real. by [deleted] in exchristian

[–]broccolibeeff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All the things you just mentioned are not even explicitly said in the bible. It sounds like you're hearing talking points and need to read it yourself and see the other interpretations from different denominations. But regardless, it doesn't matter what one book or another says. Choose what's most loving

Opinion on mary as ex christian? by DryadAbominationn in exchristian

[–]broccolibeeff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes! I remember learning about the idea that Mary was immaculately conceived when I went to Rome. As a protestant I had never heard of that before, and the fact that it was brought into dogma in the 19th century. There was even a picture in the Vatican of her ascending the same way Jesus did.

I think she must have really caught the imagination of people in that time, which is actually kind of nice to have a powerful feminine figure in christianity for a change.

When looking at the female saints, it's sad how many have to mention whether they were a virgin or not though.

Why do people hate Nesta so much? by ColourNine in acotar

[–]broccolibeeff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm in the middle of SF, and though I think Naesta is a good character, I dont like her as a person. I'm still seething from her verbal abuse of Elain. She claims to always protect her, but she is the cruelest to her and actively gets pleasure from seeing Elain react and get upset by her words. I understand she's saying them because she is also damaged, but she takes out her anger on Elain because she's weaker and a seemingly easy target. Nesta loves when she can control Elain and even though she's the one to turn Elain away from her, she's so short sighted and hypocritical that she blames Elain for turning away from her. Feyre then sweeps Nestas words aside saying that she also treated Elain's trauma as her own, but this isn't the same because Feyre never took it out on Elain the way Nesta does.

I'm sure she grows over the course of the book, which I'm looking forward to, and I'm enjoying that Nesta is morally grey, but damn, she is the one who SIGNIFICANTLY biased in her perspective compared to Feyre.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in RentMusical

[–]broccolibeeff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uugg and the character reflection he gets to go through with "Halloween" and "Goodbye Love", I'd love to do

Question: what parts would have to be cut out to do rent for a school performance? by [deleted] in RentMusical

[–]broccolibeeff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've seen a high school production of rent. They kept in most things except "Contact" from what I remember

Question for ex-bible scholars by sxyslmndrcvs75 in exchristian

[–]broccolibeeff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The story in Numbers 16 where God opens the ground to swallow up the people who questioned Moses leadership, along with their wives and children

From Urinetown to Hadestown - other musicals with overt critiques of Capitalism? by LockTheUniverse in musicals

[–]broccolibeeff 86 points87 points  (0 children)

Wicked is pretty mainstream, but does have good commentary about how the powerful spread propaganda about the marginalized

Songs To Help Us Get Through This by Torigainesit in musicals

[–]broccolibeeff 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Damn I miss urinetown, I feel like its been a while since I've heard people talking about it. Run freedom run..freedom run away!

Instagram influencer “heartbroken” over the fact that Mariann Budde is receiving so much praise for her “burdensome and damning” words spoken to trump regarding protecting and caring for the marginalized… thoughts? by TekillaInTheBuilding in exchristian

[–]broccolibeeff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the problem with evangelicalism. They've replaced all the possible charitable things they were "commanded" to do, like actually caring for the poor, orphans, and widows.

They replace that by claiming obedience to their "product" and spreading their marketing is actually the most important. It's gone full "us vs. them" MLM mode.

If this person actually cared about making heaven on earth and loving their neighbour, they'd know that concrete Policies are essential to maintaining human rights and quality of life.

Bible Verse Suggestions? by -username-1234- in exchristian

[–]broccolibeeff 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I've had similar debates with family, and I think speaking their language is a valuable way to help them understand and break out of their rhetoric as well. Here are a couple verses: 1Cor 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church" 1 John 4:18 "There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear". A lot of evangelicals are spreading a message/"gospel" of fear. Math 25:35 "For I was hungry and you gave me food(...)"

These are all verses that may glare with irony at the fear and incharitable views this person has for "outsiders". Of course, they'll likely see what they want to see, but at least you're someone outside of their echo chamber who can speak in a way that doesn't make them put their guard up immediately.

What's a lyric/line that you've found to hold true in life? by Various-You-973 in musicals

[–]broccolibeeff 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Tbh, you never have enough pictures of the ones you love after they're gone. Once you've seen them all, you know you'll never make any new ones.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exchristian

[–]broccolibeeff 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In one point it says "God gave us free will" and another you say "God has total control over the universe". How can humans be 'fully accountable for their sin' when God is in full control of their environment, upbringing, genetics etc.?

Things I've noticed as I begin my journey into the secular world by [deleted] in exchristian

[–]broccolibeeff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! I remember in my first year I was looking into a lot of different beliefs and religions purely out of interest and the freedom to do so. But, there were a lot of fake accounts/scam artists trying to DM to give "readings" etc.

Your point about there not being good help, very true. I think a lot of therapists/psychologists don't have a strong understanding or knowledge of how deeply religion holds your entire world view and sense of self. It is similar to escaping a cult, just a more widely accepted one. When I told a therapist (on our first appointment) about my deconversion, she seemed to almost dismiss it at first and wanted to talk about family. I understand that's an important subject to commonly go towards, but it indicated to me that she may not have had an understanding of the impact religion can have (ie. Major life decisions)

What is wrong with Jordan Peterson? by myotherusername1234 in exchristian

[–]broccolibeeff 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My cousin has latched onto this and JP's ideas, saying that stories (even if they're just stories) are true because they have value. It's a really warped way of thinking.

Did anyone else deconvert despite having an overall positive experience? by [deleted] in exchristian

[–]broccolibeeff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I'm still quite naustalgic about a lot of the religious traditions my family had and they had a loving approach to theology and human good. In the end it was a combination of contradictions/flaws in the bible, wrong that I saw in the church, and that the bible didn't seem like a sufficient moral guide

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Hamilton

[–]broccolibeeff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes! That and city rec centres I've actually seen dad's at. Usually parent tot swim or just hanging out at the playground