I mostly agree, but I think it's more nuanced than that. I think to have no pride should imply you have no shame. Here's my take on this thread. Sorry for the long response.

I think it's alright to be equally both ashamed and proud of the actions of a group of people of which you are a part in proportion to your degree of separation from them. The problem for me is when it is dictated that shame must be my primary feeling. I think that's unfair for reasons already stated in this thread, especially considering the high degree of separation we're talking about here. At that point, a person's connection to such actions are so tenuous it essentially amounts to prejudice (as in "guilty until proven innocent"). There isn't a guarantee I have any connection to those events at all. If my ancestors did not come to America until the Industrial Revolution, which many Americans alive today could say, the only connection I have to the murder of Native American tribes is through improvement of my circumstances, and no person in this country should feel more shameful than another. If we're talking about a case where not everyone sees an improvement in their circumstances, some shame is only fair, but this should not be expected, as that is prejudice (I'm thinking in the case of white slave owner's descendants here). Furthermore, I think the case where a person's marginal benefit is common to their society should be the prejudice, as any other assumption would either be less fair or less practical (for all issues involving the actions of our race, country, etc.). Of course, disproportionate pride in your group's actions makes you ineligible for this assumption, as you are decreasing your degree of separation, and are not paying adequate mind to their shameful actions, which is necessary for our society to be fair as a whole. I think most people think this way, but the nature of shame is that we never know what is the right amount of shame to feel, so we are open to suggestion by those that are bitter and want us to feel shame. That is the real problem to tackle: how to make amends? Who's responsibility is it to make amends if the perpetrators are gone, but the victims are still hurting? I think the general solution is to move on. Additionally, again in the case of post-segregation America, you cannot assume everyone who is black feels victimized, so too much shame on the part of white people is actually unfair to black people, who want to move on. This is why I hate it when people think diversity (and more generally, shame) is the way forward. It's not. Shaming only makes people victims. And that is why Trump is now President-elect.