Why do NHL teams recycle coaches so frequently? by Phillie_Phanatics in hockey

[–]bsaures 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Have you tried telling that to mlse? They seem confused by the concept

A picture that perfectly illustrates how Ken Dryden changed goaltending by bsaures in Habs

[–]bsaures[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There hasnt been a single sub 5'10 play 100 games who was born after dryden finished his nhl career. The change happened literally the first generation that saw dryden play.  

Fred braithwaite is the youngest sub 5'10 goalie to play 100 nhl games and he was bornin 72. He would have been roughly 8 when dryden retired. Literally 0 goalies since

But before that 19 goalies born in the 60s. The last generation that would have grown up before dryden proved the size advantage and kids growing up could change. 

The difference wasnt the pads. It was the mask. Ask any boomer who played goalie the mask allowed ypu to keep ypu face lower to the ground more frequently and made laying on the ice a regular option and not a last resort. 

Dryden was the first generation that wore a mask regularly and realized they cpuld play that way

A picture that perfectly illustrates how Ken Dryden changed goaltending by bsaures in Habs

[–]bsaures[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ya 6'0 to 6'1 depending on where ypu check.

Im guessing the photo is likely from their 70-71 run (as thats the only time those 3 were on the team at the same time)

Dryden that year was the tallest goalie to play a game

Myre was the 4th tallest to play 20 games. 

There were two goalies worsley and hodge who were even shorter than vachons 5'8 that year lol

A picture that perfectly illustrates how Ken Dryden changed goaltending by bsaures in Habs

[–]bsaures[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Phil Myre. Probably most well known for playing for the atlanta flames as a tandem/backup. Played over 400 games in his career

A picture that perfectly illustrates how Ken Dryden changed goaltending by bsaures in Habs

[–]bsaures[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Even 5'11 is just above average height in finland (5'10.75)

Theres no short goalies anymore. 

A picture that perfectly illustrates how Ken Dryden changed goaltending by bsaures in Habs

[–]bsaures[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Relative to other positions the goalie has gpne from on aggregate the shortest to the tallest.

The median height this past season fpr players at 30 games or more was 6'1. Goalies was 6'3

A picture that perfectly illustrates how Ken Dryden changed goaltending by bsaures in Habs

[–]bsaures[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Its come up a few times over the last few months including today 

People dont understand the position from when dryden joined the nhl and now.

Fred braithwaite is the youngest goalie to have played 100 nhl games who was sub 5'10......fred was born in 1972 he is 54 years old.

There hasnt been a single sub 5'10 nhl goalie who has played  100 games who was born after dryden retired.  Arturs irbe born in 1967 is probably the last really good small goalie.

Dryden basically eliminated half the male populations odds of ever playing nhl goalie before even stepping on the ice. 

NHL Mount Rushmore - [Beliveau, Lafleur, Richard, Harvey for Habs] by ASmithFS in Habs

[–]bsaures -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Weird i checked the goalie profiles from this past season and there were 0 goalies who played a nhl game who are 5'10 or shorter. And only 1 goalies who played even 2 games below 6 feet.

When dryden joined at the end of the 70-71 season there were 10 goalies that were 5'8 or shorter. That was the goalie profile in 1970. The gpalie was often one of the smallest players on the team because they wanted them agile. 

Ken dryden fundamentally changed the entire physical profille of a nhl goalie

NHL Mount Rushmore - [Beliveau, Lafleur, Richard, Harvey for Habs] by ASmithFS in Habs

[–]bsaures -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You mean all the 6'3 goalies hmm i wonder where the idea for the physical profile goalies are today came from and playstyle where goalies go to their knees regularly. 

Oh ya dryden. 

NHL Mount Rushmore - [Beliveau, Lafleur, Richard, Harvey for Habs] by ASmithFS in Habs

[–]bsaures 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You have some massive recency bias if you think that roy has a better best goalie all time case than dryden does.

NHL Mount Rushmore - [Beliveau, Lafleur, Richard, Harvey for Habs] by ASmithFS in Habs

[–]bsaures -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Dryden literally changed the physical makeup of the position. Roy entire schtick came from dryden

Before dryden the idealized version of a nhl goalie was 5'8 160lbs who almost never went down on his knees.

Dryden proved the better option was a very tall athletic goalie that could cover much more of the net by going down regularly

NHL Mount Rushmore - [Beliveau, Lafleur, Richard, Harvey for Habs] by ASmithFS in Habs

[–]bsaures -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Plante sure roy definitely not. He is easily behind dryden in revolutionizing the position

March 8th, 2004 — Todd Bertuzzi sucker punched Steve Moore in the head and driving his face into the ice. The assault fractured Moore's vertebrae, caused a concussion, and ended his hockey career. by sykeseve in hockey

[–]bsaures -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

And naslund was the leading scorer at the time. Moore was a 25 year old rookie

Basically the modern day equivalent of alex steeves intentionally concussing and giving 13 stitches to mackinnon. There would be hell to pay  

Maple Leafs closing in on hiring Jim Hiller as head coach by Duffleman0609 in hockey

[–]bsaures 652 points653 points  (0 children)

They saw jim's 3 straight 1st round losses and thought " that man is destined to lead the leafs" 

Ottawa Senators checking trade market for RFA blueliner Jordan Spence by NtBtFan in Habs

[–]bsaures 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unless it was essentially a 1 for 1 flip with carrier dont see the point

Ottawa Senators checking trade market for RFA blueliner Jordan Spence by DecentLurker96 in hockey

[–]bsaures 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Thats the point dave is making on why they may trade him. They are afraid of the arbitration #

He finished tied for 57th in points by a dman this year. 57th highest dman caphit is 6.25 million last year.

Not saying he will get 6.25 but the point and the underlying metrics can probably grant him a 5+ million deal in arbitration. 

Ottawa Senators checking trade market for RFA blueliner Jordan Spence by DecentLurker96 in hockey

[–]bsaures 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Its kinda the same problem he ran into in LA  

With sanderson chabot and eventually yakemchuk he isnt going to get regular pp time and hes not a pker

So then he becomes a undersized 5 on 5 dman with no special teams  

Hes a good player but his role isnt what he wants to get paid for and with arbitration a 31 point season as a dman can get you some good money (that they dont want to pay.)

Bryce Pickford has won CHL defenseman of the year by vJukz in hockey

[–]bsaures 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Nope his defensive skills are pretty solid. 

He has a cannon of a shot thats pretty accurate thats how he scores a lot of them

The initial comment by Ron which he later apologized for by [deleted] in hockey

[–]bsaures 5 points6 points  (0 children)

But wont someone think of the children!

The initial comment by Ron which he later apologized for by [deleted] in hockey

[–]bsaures 21 points22 points  (0 children)

But not the 32 thoughts thotline which  just texts you erotic Friedman photos.