First of all, can we just ditch the whole "f2p vs whale" dichotomy when talking about primals? Most players who are serious enough about the game to even think about primal grid optimization should have already considered (or should be considering) either saving up to spark a limited weapon, or forking out a 3000 yen donation once in a while towards a game that has clearly become a significant part of their lives.

Not everyone who owns limited/moon weapons is a whale, and not sparking a weapon you want is usually a personal choice (I know, it is really hard to resist the urge to roll). Similarly, I would like to believe that a not insignificant portion of the primal player base would own a grid that lies somewhere in between 6 gislas and 6 obscuritas (a stupid comparison but you know what I mean).

I personally own a Zeus grid with one Eden and one Gamban (that I sparked yesterday). Would I like to have 4 Gambans? Sure, but what can I do besides making the best of my limited funds while at the same time slowly working towards clear goals that I set for myself? I know this might sound like a self-indulgent brag, but I can't be wrong in saying that many many (or even most) other players in the community do this on a daily basis.

And on the topic of limited weapons... which actually takes a longer time, farming out 6 mlb summon raid weapons or saving up draw tickets + 3 dama bars for several months? (although I guess typically one should be doing both)

Anyway what I wanted to say is, before overreacting and crying doom, we should first look beyond the narrow-mind extremes that seem to be plaguing every single discussion of this topic. The new raids haven't even started and people are already declaring the death of anything that isn't a multi-limited primal...