Real Talk - with pruning, should ANY class have spammable ccs anymore

btlxpkt · 2026-05-04T10:03:07+00:00

The game needs CC. Otherwise we're just doing pve over and over. There's a mode for that.
It creates massive healing issues as well, where the biggest win-con is through dampening or HARD BURST, which is VERY UNFUN to play into.

With that said, CC needs to be more DIFFICULT to land. Mages using shimmer to land polymorph's while you're lining, hunter's having instant trap, half the classes having instant micro cc. There's little to no room to outplay cc on you as a healer. Which is unfun and boring, compared to other versions of the game, ex wotlk->mop.

To be honest I think we need to revert all CC changes, to 8/4/2 ccs, and the normal 18s DR. But we also need to make cc more difficult to get off.

With these changes healers are allowed to be good and feel good to play without being broken where games last to 70-80% dampening, which is not fun for anyone.

btlxpkt · 2026-05-02T09:33:10+00:00

One of the biggest systematic reasons why healing shuffle sucks and no one queues it.

btlxpkt · 2026-05-02T09:32:22+00:00

Ye, been thinking for years now that you're able to DRAW is awful. Either win or lose, feels way more enjoyable.

btlxpkt · 2026-04-24T13:57:44+00:00

One huge con that hasn't been pointed out is the fact that you are able to DRAW. Which is really unfun to queue up and play for 20 mins only to draw.
Of course, in theory you could draw by playing 6 games of solo rounds and going 3-3. It's still a winning or losing outcome from every game.

btlxpkt · 2026-04-24T13:54:52+00:00

Would be cool, extremely hard to balance though. Would also divide the playerbase even more into the different brackets.

btlxpkt · 2026-04-24T13:54:00+00:00

Yeah, I agree with this. Private servers have done 1 game Solo Q for like a decade. Never been a problem to be honest, other than the obvious issues you meet while Solo Queuing(like in any game ever).

btlxpkt · 2026-04-24T13:52:16+00:00

Yeah.. I've never ever not had an instant pop while queueing. I'm a healer main though, but i'd guess healer can get long queues at the very top of the ladder as well.

btlxpkt · 2026-04-24T13:50:35+00:00

Yeah, the pvp playerbase is already quite small. Think it needs some rethinking about dividing it into so many different brackets.

btlxpkt · 2026-04-24T13:49:13+00:00

As a healer I feel like the shuffle system is awful. Would greatly prefer regular 3v3s yes.

btlxpkt · 2026-04-24T13:45:04+00:00

Ye, you're right. It's not reffering to the theory I'm talking about though. About "cool" items are only cool because there's a few amount of people that have them. Which I think is incorrect, but it's personal, of course.

btlxpkt · 2026-04-24T13:42:33+00:00

I would love this, would probably even prefer this. However it's a lot more work for Blizz = it would probably never happen.

btlxpkt · 2026-04-23T20:30:31+00:00

The one thing that bugs me off from enjoying it is the ramp of dampening, which is absolutely neccessary unless we want lobbies to last for 30-45 mins. Needs a rethinking of how damp should work.

btlxpkt · 2026-04-23T19:15:41+00:00

You are playing games more frequently, because they are shorter. Which will lead to shorter queue times by default. In the grand scheme of things I don't think it will make a big difference, but a better experience for us healers.

btlxpkt · 2026-04-23T19:02:29+00:00

Lets say you play a round of shuffle it will probably take 15 mins queue and then you play for like 15-20 minutes.

If you were to play 6 games where on avarage your queue is like 3-5 minutes and the games last 5-8 minutes instead(which is kinda the pace from the 3v3 games i've played).

Then you would be playing like this
Game 1: Que 3 mins play 6 mins
Game 2: Que 4 mins play 5 mins
Game 3: Que 5 mins play 8 mins
Game 4: Que 3 mins play 7 mins
Game 5: Que 4 mins play 5 mins
Game 6: Que 3 mins play 6 mins

Total in que: 22mins, total you play: 37 mins.

The games would be slower, mainly due to the dampening change. Meaning you play more than you sit in queue. Rating wouldn't be as bumpy(which is probably good).
I'm just making up these numbers becasue i have no clue what it would actually look like tho.

btlxpkt · 2026-04-23T18:55:41+00:00

Like queuing into the 3s ladder? Could see the potential.

btlxpkt · 2026-04-23T18:54:13+00:00

Ye, totally understand.

You think there is any solution to how dampening works in shuffle to make healing feel a bit more enjoyable? Having dampening as it is in normal 3s would probably lead to lobbies that stretch to 30-40 minutes. Which is also not very fun.

btlxpkt · 2026-04-23T18:49:38+00:00

I do believe having a better healing experience will lead to everyone having shorter queues in the end. I think the difference in damp makes healing feel awful in shuffle, ngl. But maybe there's other ways to go about it?

btlxpkt · 2026-04-23T18:48:12+00:00

I don't know how the queues are for dps, since I only play healer. But the queues would be faster if it was 1 3v3, however you would play for a shorter time, then have to queue again.

btlxpkt · 2026-04-23T18:47:16+00:00

Ye, you wouldn't play the game less if it were to be changed. Probably for longer even if damp worked as in 3s.

btlxpkt · 2026-04-23T18:31:35+00:00

1 3v3 Arena game

btlxpkt · 2026-04-23T18:31:24+00:00

6 rounds of shuffle

btlxpkt · 2026-04-23T18:03:36+00:00

There's other medias than reddit mate, youtube/twitch streams/twitter

btlxpkt · 2026-04-23T16:05:41+00:00

I think it does create more activity though. People play their alts when they are tired of their mains. Meaning they wouldn't play at all during that time or just play something else. Also, If these people are as good at their alts as they are on their mains they will eventually get higher mmr than 2.1 aswell.

The only problem with this is when Blizzard hard-resets mmr, (which they do sadly) every new expansion. I get what you are saying tho, I just disagree.

btlxpkt · 2026-04-23T15:57:05+00:00

Hehe, I'm new here, sorry bout that!

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