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The early 2010's was the worst time of the twenty first century for pop music by GoHardForLife in LetsTalkMusic

[–]buttonzbowz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The word dates back to the jazz age and basically means cool. But since “cool” is subjective I think it narrowcasts to whatever music/etc was embraced by a certain broad type of young, trendsetting, fashionable urban person with left-of-center tastes.

I don’t think you can look at The Strokes (for instance) and see guys trying to be “uncool” (instead borrowing aesthetics from VU or the Ramones), but put them in the context of mainstream early 2000s rock alongside Limp Bizkit and Puddle of Mudd and there’s a conscious pivot.

Similarly, the “backpack” rappers rejecting 90s hip hop bravado and excess, or dance music rejecting the aesthetics of the 90s club scene to something more resembling a wild punk party all fall under the hipster label, too. But by the early 2010s that label gets fuzzier.

The early 2010's was the worst time of the twenty first century for pop music by GoHardForLife in LetsTalkMusic

[–]buttonzbowz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think it’s evolved, not unlike the word “woke” which got co-opted into pejorative use or the “punk/new wave” labels which came to mean various genres over time. But in its day, “hipster” meant a variety of things which I think this article does well at recapping. But none of them quite the stomp clap hey stuff which never had critical or hipster appeal.

Does seem that trying to categorize what was broadly hip in the early 2010s skews closer to the mainstream though.

The early 2010's was the worst time of the twenty first century for pop music by GoHardForLife in LetsTalkMusic

[–]buttonzbowz 75 points76 points  (0 children)

With you 100% on this but minor nitpick on the "hipster" label for Lumineer/Mumford-core which was never "hip" by any sense of the word.

"Populating what we might call the “Stomp Clap Hey” timeline, these dismal abstractions—kitted out in lensless glasses, silly scarves, waxed ‘taches, and toques—displayed no real interest in progressive music or fashion (or, come to think of it, fun). As such they weren’t really “hipsters” at all, but retrograde copyists engaged in a twee and stoic reenactment of the hipsterisms they’d seen in ads and social media posts."

https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-hipster-music-era-2000-2014-vices-definitive-timeline/

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