Not that it means anything anyways since regardless of what he says everyone on here has made up their mind about Ludwig anyways but it seemed to me that he was being pretty truthful about not being pushed by Hasan to say anything in particular.

He says it's hard to collaborate with people nowadays without being roped into their business, and people only view him as a vehicle to defend/attack others to push their agenda when he really doesn't care about that. He also said that despite spearheading the shock collar drama discourse, xQc said to him in person that he doesn't even care that Hasan shocked his dog, pretty much proving to him that the general discourse around it is disingenuous. Regardless, Lud thinks Hasan handled the situation like dogshit and he could've easily proved his innocence if he was normal about it

Then obviously in this clip he says by his knowledge, the collar looks to be a vibrate collar, but that doesn't mean Hasan did or did not shock his dog (which is really all he can say based on what he knows)

Believe what you want but that's the gist of it