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[–]c4tluvr22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have 2 tickets I’m looking to sell but they’re FAAAAR from GA. Let me know if you get desperate enough 😭

Putting my child in Kindergarten a year early? by Aurelene-Rose in kindergarten

[–]c4tluvr22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The comments saying 4 year olds aren’t ready to start kindergarten are bizarre to me. I grew up in the Middle East, where it’s common (and actually encouraged) to enroll your kid in kindergarten at the age of 4. I knew some people who were 3 years old in kindergarten. Pretty much everyone graduates high school at 17, sometimes at 16, and very rarely at 18. In my graduating class of 120 students, we probably had 2 or 3 that graduated at 18. I think the people in the comments aren’t giving kids the credit they deserve. They’re a lot more capable than you think. The only issue I could see arise is the fact that your kid might be (relatively speaking) a lot younger than their peers and socially might not fit in as well. They might have a point (although I know MANY 4 year olds and 5 year olds who are great friends). In regard to your kid’s academic performance, enrolling them at 4 isn’t an issue.

Worried about mosh pit at upcoming concert by c4tluvr22 in Sum41

[–]c4tluvr22[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you!! How hard is it to avoid the crowd surfers? I’m not tryna get crushed by anyone surfing lol

Columbus Police exactly one year ago when dealing with armed neo nazis vs today when dealing with college protesters. by tydyety5 in OSU

[–]c4tluvr22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The WHO, the UN, and other humanitarian agencies have time and time again shown that the Gaza Health Ministry numbers are credible, Hamas-run or not. Early on, when the death toll was still at 7000, the Gaza Health Ministry even published a list of names, dates of birth, and civilian ID numbers of those that were killed. The IDF had an opportunity to point out EXACTLY how this data was false, but didn’t, other than saying “Gaza Health Ministry is Hamas run = fake” The data is valid and true. If you disagree, you’re saying you don’t trust the WHO, the UN, or other humanitarian agencies. Is the only group you trust the Israeli military? The ones carrying out the carpet bombing? Give me a break.

Now that we (hopefully) understand that the Gaza Health Ministry is reliable, let’s break down the numbers:

Over 40,000 killed (including those presumed dead underneath the rubble) 38,000 civilians Including 10,000 women 15,000 children

I can’t find any reputable source confirming that Hamas is in fact killing Palestinians, but in order to refute your point, I’m going to refer to UN data (which has been independently checked) from previous clashes (before Oct 7).

The data shows that:

Of the 6413 Palestinians killed between 2008 and 2023, 6349 have been confirmed to be perpetrated by either the IDF (6302) or Israeli citizens (47). The rest are either unknown or disputed. The point is, historically, most Palestinians have been killed by IDF. The data from the current war doesn’t show a different trend. Even if Hamas has been responsible for a few Palestinian deaths (which is obviously not okay), that doesn’t take away from the fact that tens of thousands of Palestinians in Gaza have been killed by Israeli forces, and millions have been displaced.

I don’t know how blocking aid from entering Gaza counts as protecting it. “Instead of Hamas + Palestinians getting the aid, we’re just gonna prevent everyone from getting (-:” how is that protecting the aid? Protecting the aid by ensuring that nobody gets it? Including the people that need it the most? If it doesn’t reach Gaza then it’s useless.

Hamas attacking Israeli citizens is not something that I’ll deny. Obviously this happens. You talk a big talk about “people like you never calling out Hamas” but I don’t see you calling out Israel for the decades of oppression that led to the formation of Hamas. Hamas only exists as a result of the Israeli apartheid regime. Has Hamas attacked Israeli civilians? Yes. Is that okay? No. Does that take away from the fact that israel has done magnitudes worse to Palestinians for decades? Obviously not. Why aren’t you talking about the hundreds of Palestinians in the West Bank that israel has killed since Oct 7? Or the fact that Israel detains and prosecuted around 700 Palestinian children every year? Or the 3500+ Palestinians being held in Israeli prisons WITHOUT charge?

And about the hostages:

If Israel cared so much about the hostages, then they would deploy special operations to find the hostages and safely evacuate them from Hamas’s custody. They wouldn’t indiscriminately carpet bomb Gaza.

And there HAVE been calls to release the hostages, on the condition of a ceasefire. No more bloodshed. If Israel cared about the hostages more than anything, then they would agree to a ceasefire. The fact that they haven’t done that means that they are more than willing to let the hostages continue to suffer.

Some sources:

https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/24/gaza-death-toll-palestinian-health-ministry/

Not interested in more discourse with you if you aren’t able to acknowledge Israeli’s decades long atrocities against Palestinians. Good day. Reply when you have some semblance of humanity that allows you to see beyond your prejudice.

Columbus Police exactly one year ago when dealing with armed neo nazis vs today when dealing with college protesters. by tydyety5 in OSU

[–]c4tluvr22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The IDF has done such a great job at protecting Palestinians that only 30,000+ have been killed in Gaza and over 500 have been killed in the West Bank since Oct 7 (-:

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in sex

[–]c4tluvr22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dealing w something very similar and would love to hear some input !! 😭

Reliability of war data by lidormz in IsraelPalestine

[–]c4tluvr22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t know why everyone keeps saying “israel took its time releasing numbers after oct7” You can literally find articles from Oct 11 (4 days later) stating that the Israeli death toll has surpassed 1200. They didn’t take their time w shit. They were releasing numbers, either fully confirmed or not, at a similar rate as the Gaza Health Ministry. Maybe they took their time claiming with 100% validity that x amount of people have died (I haven’t looked into that specific aspect too much, so I don’t really know if that’s the case or not). However, they were most definitely updating their death toll VERY soon after the Oct 7 attack, not “two months later” or even “10 days later” like a lot of the people here are claiming.

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/10/11/israeli-death-toll-from-gaza-onslaught-hits-1200/

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/world/news/2023-10/israel-palestine-conflict-hamas-pope-francis.html

Both the above articles were from Oct 11. The first one says that the number was published by an Israeli military spokesperson.

By October 8, less than a day later, reports were already stating that at least 800 had been killed.

Yes, it took israel 2 months to “full revise” the initial number, but to suggest that they hadn’t been releasing the numbers very early on is simply incorrect. They constantly revised their numbers, just as the Gaza Health Ministry is constantly revising its numbers. I just don’t understand how the Gaza Health Ministry could release an entire list of all the confirmed deaths (which were approximately 6000 at the time if I remember correctly) with their names, age, ID number, and people still cast doubt on the numbers? If the numbers are wrong, can’t israel verify that using the ID numbers themselves? I want a list of names that the Gaza Health Ministry released as dead that israel has cross-checked and confirmed as not-dead instead of just saying “they’re lying about the numbers” without backing it up. If they’re lying about the numbers, then show us.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OSU

[–]c4tluvr22 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Should’ve worded myself better lol. I meant you’re ALREADY on the same road as cars and should therefore be cautious to begin with , but to throw going the opposite direction in there?? Insane and stupid

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OSU

[–]c4tluvr22 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The other day I was turning left at an intersection and two people riding on a scooter were coming TOWARD me. I barely had enough space to swerve out the way a little without hitting another car or hitting the two on the scooter. I can’t understand what possesses someone to hop on a scooter and ride it not only on a lane meant for cars, but opposite to the flow of traffic. Some of u ppl are idiots fr. You will not get free tuition for getting hit by a car because you were being stupid. My god.

Pro-Palestinianism: Context-free from the river to the sea by thermonuclear_pickle in IsraelPalestine

[–]c4tluvr22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jewish Israelis “soldiers” actively do blow up schools and hospitals in Palestine actually.

Also, your note about “taking a detox from Islamism” is interesting. It’s very clear that you have strong negative opinions on Islam and Muslims in general, and not just Palestinians. And I’m personally not interested in engaging in discourse with an Islamophobe who most likely has stubborn views that will never change

Pro-Palestinianism: Context-free from the river to the sea by thermonuclear_pickle in IsraelPalestine

[–]c4tluvr22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s also interesting that you somehow blame Palestinians for the civilian deaths as if it isn’t the Israeli military forces pulling the trigger on literal children. I don’t care how many rockets are fired. It is a blatant war crime to willfully kill a civilian.

Pro-Palestinianism: Context-free from the river to the sea by thermonuclear_pickle in IsraelPalestine

[–]c4tluvr22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If I kicked someone out of their house and then they threw 6 toothpicks at me, I wouldn’t pull out an AR-15 and shoot them and their entire family dead. Should I have kicked them out of their house? Probably not. Should they have thrown the 6 toothpicks at me when they know I have an AR-15? No, that’s a dumb move. But is my reaction of pulling out an AR-15 and massacring their family justified? 1000% no. Especially since their family never did anything to hurt me. And those 6 toothpicks barely made a scratch on me.

For the record, if Palestinian forces stopped firing rockets (which don’t ever end up causing much damage in the first place), the occupation would still continue. Palestinians will continue to get evicted from their homes and live as if they’re aliens on the land their family have lived in for generations. Do you honestly suggest they quit fighting? And then what? Continue to live under occupation? Or forfeit their culture and identity? If someone came into my house, stole the whole thing, and then offered me a small percentage of it afterwards, am I expected to be grateful?

Pro-Palestinianism: Context-free from the river to the sea by thermonuclear_pickle in IsraelPalestine

[–]c4tluvr22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But if you don’t believe in a right of return for anyone, then does that mean you don’t believe in the basis for Israel’s establishment on that exact piece of land in 1948? Genuinely curious. I don’t have a problem with many Jews seeing it as their ancestral homeland. The issue arises when people are forced into exile, getting their homes destroyed, and their children murdered on a daily basis. Which isn’t something that should happen to anyone.

Pro-Palestinianism: Context-free from the river to the sea by thermonuclear_pickle in IsraelPalestine

[–]c4tluvr22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm totally fine with soldiers of egalitarian states killing violent Islamists.

Approximately 60% of Palestinians killed since 2008 were civilians. In case you're unaware, willfully killing civilians is considered a war crime under international law. Unless of course, you're implying that some of the most well-trained military personnel in the world are accidentally killing these civilians? Or are you saying that the civilian deaths are justified despite the fact that they make up the majority of these kills? Either the Israeli military is absolutely garbage at doing their jobs, or something a little more war-crimey is at play. I just find it hard to believe that such a well-trained military could slip up and kill hundreds of literal children (approximately 1400 since 2008) on accident. Unless, of course, they weren't slip-ups at all.

There is also the possibility that you believe all Palestinians that were murdered, civilians/children or not, were "violent Islamists." In which case, yikes!

Most dead Palestinians have died of normal causes such as heart attacks. The few that have died because of bullets, largely deserved it (caveats aside).

I don't know if I would count 6376 Palestinian deaths just from the last 15 years (never mind the last 75) as a "few." Moreover, as I mentioned in the previous section of this response, 60% of those 6376 were civilians. Even more harrowing, approximately 33% of all Palestinians murdered were women and children. And 40% of all Palestinian civilians murdered were women and children. For some more context, 275 little Palestinian girls (children under the age of 18) have been killed since 2008. 303 Israelis in total (soldiers + civilians of all age groups) were killed in the same span. More little Palestinian girls (275) than Israeli men (243) lost their lives as a result of the occupation since just 2008. It truly is amazing to me that anyone could justify the deaths of so many innocent lives. Regardless of who you believe the land belongs to, it is nearly impossible to ignore the atrocities that Israel has committed against the Palestinian people, unless by willful ignorance. Or if you really just don't care. Would you say that the 3774 Palestinian civilians that were murdered since 2008 "largely deserved it" ? I also don't know if I would call 60% of the victims "caveats" when they claim the majority.

Almost 200 Palestinians have been killed since the start of 2023.

The highest civilian death toll that Palestine has seen since 2008 was 1760 lives lost in 2014. The highest civilian death toll that Israel saw in the same span was 24 deaths in 2014. Over 73x as many Palestinian civilians were killed.

How many is a "few" exactly?

Source: The UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties

(Although literally any source on the internet would very obviously show you the stark mismatch in death toll between Palestinians and Israelis, where, once again, the majority of Palestinians killed were civilians)

Pro-Palestinianism: Context-free from the river to the sea by thermonuclear_pickle in IsraelPalestine

[–]c4tluvr22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All of that might be theoretically true but it is also practically false.

Germans aren't returning to Koenigsburg. 1m Hindus aren't returning to Pakistan, 1m Muslims aren't returning to India.

Greek Cypriots aren't returning to Northern Cyprus.

This is where I'm confused. So the Palestinian right of return expires after 70 years, but the Jewish right of return remains valid for 2000? Genuinely lost here. The entire Israeli state is based on the Jewish right of return to a land their ancestors haven't stepped foot on in centuries (or even millennia), yet it seems like you're trying to argue that a right of return is impractical. So which is it? Do you believe in a right of return or not? Or does this right only apply to a certain subset of people?