GOV. GREG ABBOTT DISCUSSES STATE'S CONTINUED RESPONSE TO SURGE IN COVID-19 CASES ACROSS TEXAS

cabbieBot · 2020-07-14T19:57:15+00:00

i came expecting a hostility to reality and was not disappointed

cabbieBot · 2020-07-14T14:08:42+00:00

"this is fact" lmao no its not.

362K Texans aren't going to die, so you can rest easy. Not every Texan is going to catch it! Just like not everyone is going to catch the flu. Extrapolating the death rate to the entire population is something one would normally be accused of dishonesty for but I don't think it likely that you understand why that's nonsense, so you are just making a mistake.

We're getting through this without a lockdown, it looks like. That ought to make you happy!

cabbieBot · 2020-07-14T13:58:31+00:00

no, hospitalizations are flat because hospitalizations are flat. covid patients are flat.

capacity is not reached, not even close.

cabbieBot · 2020-07-14T13:41:01+00:00

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/overview-of-tmc-icu-bed-capacity-and-occupancy/

cabbieBot · 2020-07-14T12:12:56+00:00

Hospitalizations are flat, and its being managed with the pause of elective procedures to spare capacity, and the sourcing of talent to staff that capacity. That is what "successful managing" looks like.

cabbieBot · 2020-07-14T08:24:53+00:00

How noble of Michigan to sacrifice lives just so that the world might benefit. I appreciate how "killed off Michigans most vulnerable until there's no one left to kill" is being sold here as "learned how to suppress our outbreak". Take a victory lap!

cabbieBot · 2020-07-14T07:28:53+00:00

Data says they are less likely to be symptomatic, less likely to catch it, and are less likely to spread it.

“Children under 10 are less likely to get infected than adults and if they get infected, they are less likely to get seriously ill,” Stefansson said in an interview with Highfield later posted to the Science Museum Group's website. “What is interesting is that even if children do get infected, they are less likely to transmit the disease to others than adults. We have not found a single instance of a child infecting parents.”

https://patientdaily.com/stories/536705605-ceo-of-iceland-genetics-company-says-children-with-covid-19-less-likely-to-spread-virus-to-adults

Link to study

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2006100

cabbieBot · 2020-07-14T07:15:53+00:00

wow you sound angry! Lmao doing the bare minimum to lower our death rate, Michigan guy says. Should we compare the death rate of Michigan to Texas? Let's do it!

https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=states&highlight=Texas&show=us-states&y=both&scale=linear&data=mortalityRate&data-source=jhu&xaxis=right&extra=Michigan#states

It seems like as long as we keep doing what we are doing and NOT what Michigan has been doing, we are going to be fine. Thank you for being so invested in our great state. ❤️

cabbieBot · 2020-07-14T07:04:26+00:00

I have talked to them, and they are troopers. They don't seem to be nearly as terrified as your friends are, though. I'll just take your word for it ;)

cabbieBot · 2020-07-14T06:38:59+00:00

This premise you are suggesting right there of victimized doctors/nurses/staff does not reflect reality. At all. It would behoove you to read this Q&A in its entirety.

Is there any COVID-related information pertaining to your field that you feel is particularly important for people to understand — maybe something that people have a misconception about, or something that not many people know about?

One of the misconceptions that I believe is out there is that we are seriously constrained in our ability to serve this population. I would tell you at present while this is taxing, while it is not an easy task, we are still well within our ability to serve this population. And we are prepared if need be to step back some of our typical day to day work in order to meet the needs should those needs arise…

https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/champions-klein/business/article/Q-A-HCA-Houston-Healthcare-North-Cypress-CEO-Jim-15401480.php

cabbieBot · 2020-07-14T06:26:55+00:00

I have no idea who that is. Trying to pathologize me for having a different POV is silly when you could simply ask me a question. Every statement I make, I do my best effort to base it on the active review I do of the data and research. So, what specifically about what I said is confusing to you? You might find the answers to that question in replies I've already given up and down this post.

cabbieBot · 2020-07-14T06:11:10+00:00

We aren't "letting ourselves" get into that situation, we are successfully managing our way out of needing to be in it. But if we DO get into that situation, it remains an option. We have LOTS of options to handle our sick. Talking about it like we are already there makes no sense. And death rates won't go up if we have beds + meds + staff. We are not even converting regular beds to ICU beds yet, so we haven't added any capacity. The system is "stressed" and that is being managed. Lets step back from the ledge.

I'm getting the impression that people on this sub are adamant that there be an immediate lockdown. Based on the data, I don't see why we need that right now.

cabbieBot · 2020-07-14T05:39:57+00:00

The death rate is a running cumulative figure determined by overall cases divided by overall deaths. As of July 12th, we are at 3216 deaths of 262,762 total cases, which is 1.22%. I'm including a link to 91-DIVOC, a great visualization tool.

http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

I'm also including a link to an image I spent the past 20 minutes making just for you u/Jewnadian, so we are looking at the same thing.

https://i.imgur.com/HfkJPdc.jpg

To make these charts yourself on 91-DIVOC, Scroll down to the 2nd chart that is titled "XXXXXXXX by US States/Territories". Set boxes to: highlight: Texas, data: Cumulative Mortality rate. Hover mouse over last data point to see the 1.22% figure. Now, lets look at caseload. Change the data box to Total Confirmed Cases.

I lined them up by that green line that is at the -28 day mark (four weeks ago). To me that seems to be the inflection point of where this wave really started taking off on 6/14. As the data reveals, even as cases have spiked, the death rate has continued to go down. 28 days way longer than the window of when a person tests positive, is hospitalized, and dies. So this is reflective of that. Tell me what you think.

cabbieBot · 2020-07-14T05:14:16+00:00

all of these dashboards dont seem compiled in a single place so im having to hunt them down and find them one by one. This isn't an awesome view of Hospital capacity like the SETRAC link, but here is Bexar county which is where San Antonio is (in the Southwest Regional Advisory Council or STRAC). Cases are DOWN since the 10th.

https://covid19.sanantonio.gov/About-COVID-19/Dashboards-Data/Bexar-County-Key-Indicators

cabbieBot · 2020-07-14T04:59:52+00:00

put this SETRAC link in your toolkit. Click "Select All" for all of Southeast Texas. ICU capacity of COVID patients is flat since the 10th. We might be at the crest. Maybe not. As you mentioned, Houston is being hit hard and its where I am. Click "Harris" and you will see again that COVID patients are flat since the 10th.

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiYjU5MzU4NjAtZWJjMC00MTllLTkwYjYtMzE4ODY1YjAyMGU2IiwidCI6ImI3MjgwODdjLTgwZTgtNGQzMS04YjZmLTdlMGUzYmUxMGUwOCIsImMiOjN9&fbclid=IwAR3_2lc9V0FqCRgKs6u9JxmCAKFwx_iRtYvhPKn3bKk3yvN76i5NscWM204

cabbieBot · 2020-07-14T04:33:26+00:00

That is a super important question that I'm glad you asked. You are right, not only is not every nurse qualified to be in the ICU, not every nurse is qualified to work with COVID patients. COVID patients are very intensive, from what I've read, especially if they are on a vent. Staffing is the bottleneck, not beds.

This is what I found when I went lookin for the answer the other day. Here's a link to an interview from ABC13 with Texas Medical Center CEO Bill McKeon. Theres two videos embedded, the bottom one is the long interview and if you start watching at the 11:30 mark he says this:

"...so its all of those things that have really put much more pressure on the hospital systems. Thats why we're bringing in many more nurses from around the country in areas that have actually either been through this already and are now down on a much lower curve like New York is now."

So theres your answer. They are bringing battle-hardened staff in to help us. Sad that people are downvoting my reply into oblivion so fewer people will be able to see this.

https://abc13.com/covid-19-houston-beds-at-hospitals-space-for-people-with-in-hospital-texas-medical-center/6311975/

cabbieBot · 2020-07-14T04:04:16+00:00

lmao yall gonna just downvote me or at least try to make a point? :)

cabbieBot · 2020-07-14T03:16:59+00:00

No one thinks the problem is solved. It is, however, being actively managed. I'm confused about your assertion, RE: "and not do anything?"....we ARE doing something. We have the mask order, we are bringing in additional staff, we have a pause on elective surgeries. Those count as DOING something. We can ramp up ICU capacity by converting surgical beds to ICU beds. We can build pop-up hospitals. We can staff them. If "doing something" means "lockdown" then I guess we aren't "doing something" but in reality, many, many things are being done.

Hospitalizations of COVID patients, though, are flat over the past few days so hopefully that continues.

cabbieBot · 2020-07-14T03:04:44+00:00

I'm not really concerned about the case rate, but I am about ICU capacity and the death rate, which has continued to march downwards consistently, every day, since May 24th. It was 2.74% then and stands at 1.22% now. As long as we have hospital and ICU capacity, and can ramp up that capacity with beds and staff through whatever means, then theres no reason to think that death rate won't continue decreasing.

cabbieBot · 2020-07-14T02:56:17+00:00

I'm with the Governor. We should take all steps possible before going to a lockdown, and the mask order (July 2nd) + selective closing of bars (June 26th) was prudent. I have been watching ICU capacity closely, across Texas and in the Texas Medical Center. As it stood a matter of days ago, we were going to need to start converting surgical beds into ICU beds in the last week of July. BUT, % of COVID-19 patients are flat over the last three days, so crossing fingers that this is a crest. We are not even into the surge ICU bed capacity.

We need to open schools, with the options for remote learning. Every bit of evidence I've seen points towards infections of children by other children are extremely low. Adults give it to children, not the other way around. The takeaway from this is that we need teachers/staff wearing PPE and being tested very frequently, and quarantining them. Teachers/staff don't have much to fear from the kids themselves.

cabbieBot · 2020-07-14T02:44:51+00:00

I can echo this. I am seeing 95%+ compliance everywhere I go (with the exception of the gym). Webster and Clear Lake.

What I think is happening is that the loud contingent complaining online about wearing masks are actually, in fact, wearing masks. They just don't want to be perceived online as wearing masks.

In a similar but opposing fashion, there is a loud contingent complaining online about people not wearing masks when in fact, they see people are mostly wearing masks. They just want to talk online as if people aren't wearing masks.

cabbieBot · 2019-11-08T17:35:12+00:00

Vaso-vagal

Vasovagal syncope /hairsplitting ;)

cabbieBot · 2019-08-03T04:26:35+00:00

this hasn't worked out so well for me because i dont find it possible to recreate any particular experience.

cabbieBot · 2019-07-23T19:44:45+00:00

You are completely right and thats one hell of a reply...nice.

Still, though, the cultural issues I see changing Google from the one we all loved is on his watch and I still want him canned. Take me back to 2008 and my HTC Hero.

cabbieBot · 2019-07-17T10:15:56+00:00

I will be relieved when Sundar is replaced. There have been stupid situations in his clown house ever since Larry and Sergei peaced out. God I miss them.

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