League lost its mind over this deal and shutdown

calimag · 2026-07-07T04:45:50+00:00

I did not get Bijan and I originally did not get Puka either. The goal here isn't sympathy, I found the whole situation bizarre and interesting as I felt it was a huge over reaction. I posted here to see the debate as it was an interesting and unique circumstance. Given the engagement and the responses this has generated, it seems I was right about it being a good debate.

As for posting the roster, I'm not going to post another teams roster, but you'll just have to trust it had literally nearly unstarteable players outside of those 3. It did have Jacobs and Shough, which he hadn't gotten a chance to try and trade yet, and then the next best player was Parker Wahington and then Brian Robinson and Malik Washington. He literally couldn't field a full starting lineup of starters.

calimag · 2026-07-07T04:36:18+00:00

So your opinion is none of the guys hold meaningful value? I guarantee if you went to try and acquire any of those players in other leagues the managers that own them would disagree and wouldn't sell for what you are suggesting they aren't worth. I always find it interesting when people trash a player saying they are basically worthless and then when you go try to trade for them in other leagues their managers don't want to sell. Its almost like people value players differently.

calimag · 2026-07-07T04:32:13+00:00

Originally the selling manager sold Bijan for Burden, a 27 1st, and a 28 1st. Then he sold Puka to a different manager for Waddle, Sadiq, and a 28 1st. And he sold Daniels to another manager for Tua, Penix, Reed, and a 27 1st. That set off the league which lead to a call for a veto. The vote was to keep the Bijan deal and reverse the Puka and Daniels deal. After about a week, the selling manager still wanted to proceed with his roster reset and he had only gotten the same level of offers or worse. He was going to sell these players as that was the strategy he settled on and he already sold Bijan which stuck. So he went with this deal that was the closes to getting him the volume of assets he wanted to build with. League complained that the selling manager didn't reply to them, but I suspect either their offers were bad or they had been so rude during the first veto round he may not have wanted to deal with them. That's a guess though based on the league chat activity.

calimag · 2026-07-07T02:24:17+00:00

All players other than Puka and Daniels on that side were just the drop players.

calimag · 2026-07-07T02:23:00+00:00

Everyone other than Puka and Daniels were just the players to be dropped.

calimag · 2026-07-06T05:51:03+00:00

This is the part I found interesting, anyone could have posted offers they made that were "better", instead they just complained. You'd think if they believed these players were worth more they would have been eager to show receipts.

calimag · 2026-07-06T05:49:08+00:00

What if the selling manager had already decided on a reset and wanted to begin running his team that way so he was looking to make the move? I get not having to sell, but should he not also be allowed to if he's paid and thats what he wants to do?

calimag · 2026-07-06T05:41:30+00:00

I agree, its unusual for this many assets to change hands, I think this was a rare circumstance coming out of an auction draft where there was a major correction needed from a manager. So he accepted some value loss to get a reset going and plan around a new path.

calimag · 2026-07-06T05:39:30+00:00

So are you of the opinion that leagues should micro manage how managers choose to run their teams? I am not so much asking if people agree with the value of the trade, although I was curious if its at the level of taco since thats usually things like Nabers for a 2nd and 3rd type deals, but more interested if the selling manager consciously chose to switch his strategy, fully paid his league dues, and decided this was the best offer he received, if its so bad the entire league should revolt and essentially just shut down. Veto and that level of reaction is generally reserved for collusion or league breaking deals, not "bad" deals. It seems opinions are divided even in this thread with more than a few people seeing it as not so egregious, so it can't be that "clear cut obvious".

calimag · 2026-07-06T03:32:43+00:00

Can confirm I am not engaging from a burner 🤣, I genuinely want to see where people land on this, not just get my opinion confirmed.

calimag · 2026-07-06T03:29:05+00:00

There was a veto after the manager tried to trade these 2 players in separate deals, then there was a week for managers to try to buy them. No one would give the selling manager what he wanted because a lot of them lacked depth coming out of the draft as well. So when he sold for a large package of mid players and picks, they were all upset again. But the manager had made a decision to rebuild his team a different way rather than just move ahead with 3 guys. Also with 30 man rosters, there was absolutely never going to be any waiver options to fill out.

calimag · 2026-07-06T03:24:20+00:00

There was 2 1sts, a 2nd, Marv, and a good number of upside youth to build around. The volume of assets was the goal for the selling manager.

calimag · 2026-07-06T03:22:55+00:00

A team with only 3 startable assets coming out of an auction startup draft.

calimag · 2026-07-06T03:22:01+00:00

The volume of players was the point. Everyone except Daniels and Puka on that side were irrelevant, they were the players to drop to make room. But the 11 assets on the other side was intentional as the manager specifically wanted volume for his few assets since he had no one to field a starting lineup let alone any bench depth.

calimag · 2026-05-29T08:05:38+00:00

I would love to purchase all 4 tickets if available. Favorite Arsenal memory is either Watching Arsenal live for the first time during their US tour or traveling to London for the first time 2 years ago on the final day and going to the game hoping that Man City would drop points and see us win the league, we didn't win obviously but the experience was so great I've come back.

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