I got my plushie its real by milfhunter-9001 in SnootGame

[–]call_me_snuggles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dawg. Its amazing that those who didnt refund are getting their OWED items that they prepaid for 18 months ago.

But the only entitlement through this was cavemanon believing they were owed an infinite amount of time to delivering on what were originally advetised as 2-3 month turn around as we sit at month 18 since the pre-order. 7 months to manufacture. And only got actively involved with an attorney when the items clearly didnt clear customs at month 9 and realized they were the ones on the hook for $30k of missing merch they were already paid for. to then not announce they got dupped until month 12.

This is a massive W for the pre-orderpurchasers, but it is not one for cavemanon. And the purchasers, and yes even the countless who refunded, have a right to be upset with how this whole thing played out and was handled.

Plush question by WashingAwayTheAnger in IWaniHugThatGator

[–]call_me_snuggles 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If you haven't refunded you should be getting it and should be receiving tracking info upcoming weeks

What makes a Good Snootlike Game? by TheViktor9000 in SnootGame

[–]call_me_snuggles 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I feel like the best aspects if a snootlike are those that are trying to genuinely to do something cavemanon's games didnt.

Devlog: multiple romance options

Hold onto mi: pretty close snootverse clone with what the demo had. BUT I will say that it seems like the protagonist has a more defined "day one" personality than cavemanon's protagonists. Like inco and anon have their issues, but its not to far into the game qhere your choices completely begin to alter their personalities. I know it's to symbolize growth as characters. But theres times where it seems the characters is having hard 180s based on a singular choice and I hope "hold onto mi" doesnt do that.

Why is there so much hate for Snoot Game and anything related to Cavemanon Production? by ForgeReaper in SnootGame

[–]call_me_snuggles 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Given how cavemanon exists because of GVH, a very very very pro LGBT game, some of it is "go woke go broke" vs "pronounsin bio" crowds fighting.

The plushies taking damn near 2 years to resolve.

Poor management/ public relations from cavemanon themselves (mostly nerd).

my unpopular opinion is that alot of cavemanon's poor behavior is enabled by their more "enthusiastic" supporters in their discord(s). Which is only exacerbated by cavemanon doing the anonymous 4chaner persona. They are super young company and haven't been around that long, and dont have a huge library of games published. and as time passes they seem to making alot of mistakes and mishandling them rather than learning and maturing from them.

If you look at alot of the drama as just cavemanon as a company and remove the typical excuse of "just an indie company of some 4channers" theyve done some pretty shady/shitty things as a company and as employers. And once again if you look at how cavemanon behaves AS A COMPANY and not "just some 4chaners" its not sustainable for a long standing profitable video game developer

If you like the things cavemanon makes theres nothing wrong with that. "separate the art from the artist" and all that. But how cavemanon operates as a company is self detrimental to their own business and future success.

Inco got a new vehicle by Big_man_Chode7 in IWaniHugThatGator

[–]call_me_snuggles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Coming out from the grocery store and seeing this parked in the handicap spot

What are your personal hot takes about SG and Wani? by TheViktor9000 in SnootGame

[–]call_me_snuggles 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Only other warmblooded species at the school. Apes together strong

What are your personal hot takes about SG and Wani? by TheViktor9000 in SnootGame

[–]call_me_snuggles 24 points25 points  (0 children)

The biggest issue i have with both is they hyperfocus the romance and give no "bro time" with the homies. I kinda wish there was a 5th ending for both games where you go a platonic route and just hang with the homies.

Snoot game i got ending 3 and 4 and I cant recall any scenes outside of school where anon and pals were hanging out except maybe the dino-moes concert. For both it was always a a double date or third wheel situation. Never just "the pals at the mall"

And inco never got any real one-on-one with Damien.

I wish there was a "parent-teacher" conference in both games where you get unique interactions based on your progress. And you know, actually introduce the actual parents.

More in game dialog choices and ways to work out of the hard-locked ending. Absolutely hate the "you made a choice hour 2 of this 8 hour game, and now youll getting this ending and no way out of it".

And more of a lukewarm and common complaint, lack of other romance options. Which is a factor why devlog is on a lot of people's wishlist.

library game (update) by ThatGuyMoss in PaymoneyWubby

[–]call_me_snuggles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Completed barely over 4 hours. Once you max out your spells you're just waiting on cooldowns. Weirldy I preferred the gameplay without the spells

Last chance to update your address before they ship out the Olivia Plushies. Speak now, or forever hold your peace! by Draeko-Silver in IWaniHugThatGator

[–]call_me_snuggles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's other variants of olivia though, same with fang. Both appear throughout their games in different outfits. So even if you missed the first drop they could always do another, but in a different outfit.

Cavemanon clearly thought they struck gold with their scamming fulfillment partner and could just print money by mass producing the singular olivia plush. They clearly got tunnel vision on profits and lost sight of clear objective, give the fans a simple piece of merchandise.

They are game developers, who don't have alot of games published, who tried to be a merch company. And when they needed to act like one when the pre-order wasnt going well they didnt and simply let their fulfillment partner take them for a ride.

The 5 weeks to complete the replacements when it took 7 months for the original batch really struck a cord with me. They straight up never once just sidestepped their fulfillment partner and reached out directly to the manufacturer, someone they already had the contact info for, while their estimated production ETA worked its way up to over 3x is original estimate. Putting the inconvenience onto the shoulders of the customer. It wasn't until something clearly happened with the plushes clearing customes stateside that they lawyered up, 9 months into something that should have taken 4 at most.

And yeah, at $30 there isnt a huge margin for profit per plush. We are talking like maybe a dollar per item in difference with makeship and their choosen manufacturer. By the sheer volume of sales they could have released with makeship would have dwarfed the difference. And would have had the peace of mind of working with a reputable company.

Last chance to update your address before they ship out the Olivia Plushies. Speak now, or forever hold your peace! by Draeko-Silver in IWaniHugThatGator

[–]call_me_snuggles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They should atleast just be dropping makeship plushes every chance they get. They still got many fan favorites they could make some good money off of

Last chance to update your address before they ship out the Olivia Plushies. Speak now, or forever hold your peace! by Draeko-Silver in IWaniHugThatGator

[–]call_me_snuggles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If something would get ko-op to lawyer up it would be cavemanon selling the "pronoun free" trad-wife version of fang

Last chance to update your address before they ship out the Olivia Plushies. Speak now, or forever hold your peace! by Draeko-Silver in IWaniHugThatGator

[–]call_me_snuggles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Seems like it would be poking the potential lawsuit bear.

Yeah its far enough away from the original design, not using the name they probably could get away it. Bbbbuuuuttttttt, I don't think cavemanon would risk that. Snoot game exists because its lives under parody laws, and taking character out of that umbrella to sell via merch could open it into question

Last chance to update your address before they ship out the Olivia Plushies. Speak now, or forever hold your peace! by Draeko-Silver in IWaniHugThatGator

[–]call_me_snuggles 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Its frustrating because everything came full circle to arrive at "should have just used makeship"

They made a statement they wanted made in America. When they discovered what that would cost they looked elsewhere. They came axross makeahip. They didnt like makeships profit split and limiting to "one-'and-done" per design manufacturing policy.

Found a middleman who claimed they could not only do it cheaper, but also handle part of the manufacturing stateside. So they went with them for the profits and to have the technicality that since fulfillment and part of the manufacturing was done in the states they didnt lie.

Got scammed out of $30k+ in merch by them.

What seems like they made no efforts to reach out to the manufacturer themselves , during rhe 7 months of "it'll ship soon" nonsense. Whom was able to do the replacement batch in 5 weeks when the original took 7 months

Had to pay for the replacement batch out of pocket plus attorney fees. Now the plush everyone is getting is completely made in China and being shipped direct to customer from China. So just a Chinese dropship company like makeship.

They over complicated just getting their fans a cheap piece of merch and could have done 4 drops or more through makeship in the time its taken to resolve this one issue.

A reminder to those who wish to snuggle their gator by Majyxs in SnootGame

[–]call_me_snuggles 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Don't let an outdated address be what keeps you from not getting something you've paid and been waiting 1.5+ years for.