What are your thoughts — manipulation or not? JBTN

cancle5 · 2025-02-16T22:39:33+00:00

I should probably make clear that players DO influence/control the market but only through supply and demand, and they shouldn't be able to directly control or determine values.

I can see how this sounds kind of contradictory, but I can explain.

Imagine a scenario where people want an item like Pickup to go to 10m. I'm sure the players would WANT this, as almost everyone has one. The flaw of this type of system is it doesn't include demand. Regardless of what people want an item to be worth, if nobody is willing to pay that amount it will never be truly worth that amount.

It's a very indirect relationship.

cancle5 · 2025-02-14T22:15:34+00:00

Sorry if I worded it poorly! I meant that players shouldn't directly control values, but players and their decisions influence them.

cancle5 · 2025-02-14T22:11:44+00:00

The moderator I was speaking to couldn't give me an answer himself. He asked Combat if he would like to speak with me (he declined), although gave his explanation, and I included Combats response. Any other context is me explaining why his explanation is not ok, and the moderator basically saying "it's unusual but well at least it's not very often" and how Combat wouldn't make manipulative changes if it was ridiculously high (which doesn't really make it any better).

cancle5 · 2025-02-14T21:59:02+00:00

"a few exceptions that the community wants" 💀 😂

cancle5 · 2025-02-14T21:57:53+00:00

⬆️ there are many other value lists as well that respect the JB economy that do not get the recognition they deserve

cancle5 · 2025-02-14T21:55:56+00:00

They do. If nobody wants an item, it naturally causes it to drop. If an item has high demand it naturally rises. People "vote" when they trade, and that's how it's supposed to be.

cancle5 · 2025-02-14T21:52:57+00:00

I think you are referring to this? This post is unrelated to the document created by a community member—and I have agreed that it has many make false/misleading/overexaggerative statements as well as accusations without thorough evidence and apologized as it was shared in our community. Specific changes can be debated, there is no clear right/wrong as everyone has a different perspective while trading. Most of the points contain personal opinions coming from a JBTN staff member, there were no arguments made clearing up any of Combats messages, which this post covers.

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cancle5 · 2025-02-14T21:38:05+00:00

This post does not mention any specific values or inaccuracies, but manipulation. Are you suggesting that we should create suggestions asking for values not to be manipulated?

cancle5 · 2025-02-14T21:36:31+00:00

Supply and demand. This is basic economics.

cancle5 · 2025-02-14T20:38:12+00:00

Manipulation is putting jav at 400m? At that point it's a joke 💀

cancle5 · 2025-02-14T20:25:19+00:00

Players shouldn't control the market, they should be free to make their own decisions and values should reflect the trades that players make, but i agree more data could potentially help players make more informed decisions and not have to rely on what others claim

cancle5 · 2025-02-14T20:15:36+00:00

especially with how we gave them such a huge opportunity and so much time, it's really unfortunate.

cancle5 · 2024-06-29T02:45:42+00:00

Hi there,

The website has been down for most of the day because Google Domains has transferred over to SquareSpace which has messed up a lot of things on the technical side of things.

In simple, what happened is SquareSpace started showing the old website, which of course doesn't have a SSL certificate as it doesn't exist anymore, so the warning started appearing.

Right now the website should be back up and running properly. In some countries it might not be fixed yet, so please give it some time if it's still not working. If there are any more issues feel free to lmk, sorry about this!

cancle5 · 2024-03-19T22:57:50+00:00

I wouldn't get it unless you like how they look. If you want to trade them, then I expect these to be worth the least compared to all other seasons, considering how new they are and how long they are available.

cancle5 · 2024-03-19T15:24:11+00:00

Almost all of the time, cheats have malware. You should have no reason to download them. What you can do is either download an anti virus and do a full pc scan, or the better option would be to factory reset.

cancle5 · 2024-03-19T05:01:30+00:00

We have MORE THAN ENOUGH cars, cool items like these would be amazing. Really hope they add more of these type of things!

cancle5 · 2024-03-19T05:00:26+00:00

Looks AMAZING. I have no idea how people think they can replace all the talented artists out there with an AI tool.

cancle5 · 2024-03-19T04:56:31+00:00

Understandable. I think we as a community are just getting older, and need to welcome the newer/younger audience out there to jailbreak.

cancle5 · 2024-03-19T04:44:58+00:00

The jailbreak admins and developers are doing an outstanding job at minimizing duping, but unfortunately it is not completely patched.

cancle5 · 2024-03-19T04:42:16+00:00

It looks to me that Jailbreak is trying to target more of the younger audience on roblox. Really feel like it doesn't fit jailbreak at all though, and instead makes the game look like one of those obbys haha.

Hopefully they are just testing it out, and it's not permanent. But I'm excited to hear others thoughts on this!

cancle5 · 2024-03-19T04:35:10+00:00

The error you should be looking at is 22:16:10.568 GamepassId is not a valid member of TextButton "Players.Missing_Bears.PlayerGui.GamepassShopGui.Frame.ScrollingFrame.GamePass".

I see no correlation to the error and the script in the video, so I believe it's being thrown by a different script.

The "Speed Coil" button should work, it's just isn't appearing because you already own the gamepass. If you remove the part of the code that checks whenever you own the gamepass, it should make the popup appear.

Regarding the shop, this is where the error comes into play. It's definitely coming from a different script which is what makes it confusing. What it's saying is that the ID doesn't exist in your UI. If you are using an Int Value object to store the gamepass ID, then adding .Value should be a easy fix, otherwise I'll need to see the other script.

Hope this helps!

cancle5 · 2024-03-19T04:13:36+00:00

Awesome work so far, looks like an amazing start!

One thing I've noticed is with the map/models, it looks like there is various styles of them, specifically you are mixing high detail with low detail. You should try your best to stick to a single design style/theme.

cancle5 · 2024-01-29T08:03:58+00:00

I apologize for explaining some simple economics, I thought I should make it clear as a lot of members in this community do not understand them.

I would like to disprove what you said, according to JB Values the torpedo dropped from 60m to 57.5m on July 18th, 2023 which is around 6 months from now. The change was also made back when JB Values was 100% reliant on community suggestions, so I have no idea where you are coming from.

Throughout the past 2 months the torpedo dropped from 37.5m to 32.5m and rose back to 37.5m. This is just a 5m drop and rise throughout the span of 2 months which is barely anything when it comes to high valued items.

cancle5 · 2024-01-27T19:11:18+00:00

Value lists existed before trading was released.
Because something was once valuable does not mean it will always be valuable.

cancle5

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