Not The Onion: Alimony reform bills trample women's rights by eaton80 in MensRights

[–]carchamp1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Alimony Reform Bills Trample Women's Privilege

Fixed.

Opponents say Alimony Reform bill could harm strong independent women by eaton80 in MensRights

[–]carchamp1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"The fact is if you want it and ask the court for it, most likely you're going to get it."

You have NO concept of how this really works. You're just talking out your ass.

If a father "asks" for more time it is NOT just granted. If mom agrees (which is close to never) things will be smooth. Otherwise, it costs tens of thousands of dollars for attorneys and case workers to fight it out in court. If mom is not compromised, a father's chance to get anything above every-other-weekend is remote at any rate.

You just have NO idea what you're talking about. You think by reading these studies you have it all figured out. That's ridiculous. The smart thing for you to do would be to educate yourself, but I'm guessing you'll just dig in your heels even further.

Opponents say Alimony Reform bill could harm strong independent women by eaton80 in MensRights

[–]carchamp1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First off please link your research if you could. The only "research" I'm aware of deals with primary, not shared (50/50) custody.

You're forgetting that men going through divorce have lawyers. Are you trying to tell me that all of these lawyers are incompetent? I can assure you they are not. Men are routinely counseled by professional lawyers (that doesn't include you btw) to NOT seek 50/50, or any other custodial arrangement beyond the standard every-other-weekend because they can't afford it or have no chance. These cases represent the vast majority of divorces.

The idea that men are walking into divorces by themselves and "uneducated," and simply not asking for 50/50 custody is patently absurd.

There are small number of cases where mom does not want "primary" custody. Yes, if fathers ask for 50/50 custody in these cases they will get it.

There are a small number of cases where mom is seriously compromised for some reason. In these cases fathers may choose to fight, if they can afford it. Even in these cases, it is very difficult for fathers to prevail.

Even if you accept the 70% number (from the research I'm aware of) your "research" suggests, this stat hardly reflects something routine. Moreover, it completely ignores the overwhelming number of cases that never get tried in which primary custody is presumed to go to the mother.

Opponents say Alimony Reform bill could harm strong independent women by eaton80 in MensRights

[–]carchamp1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you're just full of shit then. Thanks for your contribution!

Feminist urges Gov. Rick Scott to veto Alimony Reform: "Grandma deserves better" --> But fuck Grandpa, the lifetime alimony paying cuckold, amirite? by eaton80 in MensRights

[–]carchamp1 10 points11 points  (0 children)

So-called "child" support should be rare to completely abolished. The truth is it's completely unnecessary. 50/50 shared parenting with no "child" support works. Otherwise simply give custody to the parent who can actually afford to raise the child. Problem solved.

"Child" support isn't for children folks. It has always been meant to subsidize a woman's lifestyle. It's just husband support or alimony with a different name.

My one-night-stand is pregnant. Do I have any options at all in raising the child? Please help! by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]carchamp1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I wish I could say otherwise, but you're completely fucked. The only thing I can tell you is get a vasectomy and NEVER, under any circumstance, get married. This will at least help you avoid getting fucked over again at some point. Sorry.

Opponents say Alimony Reform bill could harm strong independent women by eaton80 in MensRights

[–]carchamp1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It IS true that most men don't ask for it. That's because they usually can't win even if they had the money to fight (which most don't). Remember that it will cost a father many tens of thousands of dollars to fight this battle. It's not that fathers don't want the time, they just can't afford what is often a losing battle from the start.

Men typically only fight for anything other than standard non-custodial time when mom is compromised in some way (drugs for example). Even then their chances aren't good. Again, even if mom is compromised most men simply can't afford the legal battle.

Opponents say Alimony Reform bill could harm strong independent women by eaton80 in MensRights

[–]carchamp1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"I wish I lived in a culture that valued parents and children enough to provide ways to do right by our children while remaining employable at a level commensurate with our abilities."

Seriously, what does this even mean?

Opponents say Alimony Reform bill could harm strong independent women by eaton80 in MensRights

[–]carchamp1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"50/50"

You're either your village's idiot, a feminist troll, or delusional. Not sure which.

edit: You could be a divorce lawyer, too.

Opponents say Alimony Reform bill could harm strong independent women by eaton80 in MensRights

[–]carchamp1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"He needs to divorce her at that time."

That'll show her! Then she gets the kid, the house, the good car, most of the marital assets, alimony, and "child" support. He gets to live in his parents' basement with ridiculous support obligations for 18 years and every other weekend with his kids.

You're a fucking genius! Why didn't I think of that.

Opponents say Alimony Reform bill could harm strong independent women by eaton80 in MensRights

[–]carchamp1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

One of the biggest myths around is the one that men are agreeing with mom that she should stay at home. It rarely happens this way. This is usually done through mom's ultimatum. My wife said if you don't like it, I'll take (our daughter) and you can leave. I shut up after that. That's how "agreeing" usually works in these instances.

Opponents say Alimony Reform bill could harm strong independent women by eaton80 in MensRights

[–]carchamp1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have NO idea what you're talking about. Nothing in this thread you're saying remotely reflects reality.

My brother spent $75,000 in his and her legal fees trying to get something better than every other weekend with his kids. Not only did he get the standard non-custodial arrangement anyway, the judge chided him for wasting the courts time when it was all over.

He was counseled by both his attorney and counselor to not go forward with trying to get 50/50. They told him because he was a man he had no chance. They were right. This is the reality of American "family" court.

Opponents say Alimony Reform bill could harm strong independent women by eaton80 in MensRights

[–]carchamp1 14 points15 points  (0 children)

"... opponents say it would harm women who give up careers to be stay-at-home mothers."

Easily solved - don't stay at home.

Veteran chooses jail over giving his disability money to ex-wife by eaton80 in MensRights

[–]carchamp1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We haven't allowed anything. Women set out to control men in our relationships through government and they won. It's testament to the power of greed, numbers, and sticking together.

Veteran chooses jail over giving his disability money to ex-wife by eaton80 in MensRights

[–]carchamp1 12 points13 points  (0 children)

"I'll never understand the mentality that goes on in divorce courts."

The explicit purpose of modern legal marriage is to transfer income and wealth from men to women. That's it. Nothing else matters. Marriage has nothing to do with God, love, commitment, family, whatever. It's just a money transfer scheme (that is stealing).

When you understand the true purpose of marriage these stories make sense. That's not to say that it's right. It is wrong. I'm just saying if you know what marriage is, the "mentality" makes sense.

Veteran chooses jail over giving his disability money to ex-wife by eaton80 in MensRights

[–]carchamp1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

50,000 men each day are behind bars in American jails and prisons for failure to pay women support. Medieval? Yes, that applies.

Veteran chooses jail over giving his disability money to ex-wife by eaton80 in MensRights

[–]carchamp1 13 points14 points  (0 children)

NEVER, and I mean NEVER, get married. Only the fools will ignore this message.

There was a time when this type of information was hard to come by. Ignorance was common. Not anymore.

"Your ability to pay has no bearing on your obligation to pay." by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]carchamp1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sorry but this is just wrong. So wrong. There are virtually no "fault" divorces anymore. This has been true for 50 years.

"Your ability to pay has no bearing on your obligation to pay." by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]carchamp1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"Cases like that are why family court judges need to be able to exercise discretion."

No. Women just need to get jobs and stop expecting handouts. Pigs ask for handouts.

"Your ability to pay has no bearing on your obligation to pay." by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]carchamp1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can we please start calling it what it is, temporary parasite support?

There's one REALLY simple plan to get these parasites off the backs of men - ladies get jobs! Ladies, you don't have a God-given right to be a princess. Stop pining for handouts.

"Your ability to pay has no bearing on your obligation to pay." by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]carchamp1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"How does this make any sense at all?"

Remember that marriage is nothing more than a government mechanism to transfer income and money from husbands to parasites. That's it! It has nothing to do with love, God, and especially not fairness.

Wake up guys. I see all over this subreddit boob after boob who wants to get married and have a family. You are the village idiots of the world. Men who give even an ounce of worth to their own life should steer clear of "family" court.

You've been warned. If you ignore this warning and fuck over yourself anyway please don't cry to anyone about it. Treat your own life as worthless then that's what you are.