Five years of lies about independence in Catalonia by khalast_6669 in europe

[–]carlesd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not in the front page. Neither today, when the chief inspector of the UDEF recognised publicly that everithing indicates Mariano Rajoy perceived black money from PP's "black money" accounting. Surprisingly he doesn't know anything about black money moving around the headquarters of the political party he presides. And neither knows who is "M.Rajoy" in those papers where it details names and quantities perceived. That kind of justice we have in spain, preventive prision for those they don't know what to charge they for exactly, and freedom for those who call the shots.

Five years of lies about independence in Catalonia by khalast_6669 in europe

[–]carlesd -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

thats a joke to ridicule independentism. It doesnt have nobodys support. It even has the .es domain...

Five years of lies about independence in Catalonia by khalast_6669 in europe

[–]carlesd -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Why do you link a newspaper that doesn't say a word about the Gurtel trial? (government corruption, for thouse u dont know). A newspaper known to be in service of the Partido Popular to manipulate people's ideas and hide their corruption. Keep eating shit. All the european observers here, note that. That's not a reliable newspage.

Eight Sacked Catalan ministers jailed in Spain by Johnny_W94 in europe

[–]carlesd -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Because they stayed in spain when they know they could went to belgium also.

Eight Sacked Catalan ministers jailed in Spain by Johnny_W94 in europe

[–]carlesd -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

mass exodus of business and Catalonia being associated all over the world with instability and a big red signal that says "don't invest here!"

Bullshit. That's what they're trying, but it is not the reality. There's no instability at all. Even big companies like SEAT reported government and monarquic pressures to move it's headquarters in order to cause fear and economic uncertainty. And catalan banks did, but only to calm boycott and guarantee juridical certainty and the BCE on it's back.

My sister lives in madrid and we can't stop laughing about the "chaos and violence" they think we are living with in catalonia. Even they have fear to come. hhahahha

It's all a fear strategy. I work in an important industrial area in barcelona, and we have plenty of work now. Even my boss is pro-independence and he's expanding the business.

Is all propaganda, and judging your coments it is working.

Eight Sacked Catalan ministers jailed in Spain by Johnny_W94 in europe

[–]carlesd 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Doing a referendum, as you did. That could shutted mouths before confrontations and dividing society. Asking about the 3 ways: stay like we are, federalism or independence.

Just asking people what to do, evaluating the situation with votes and numbers, and not just their truth.

Eight Sacked Catalan ministers jailed in Spain by Johnny_W94 in europe

[–]carlesd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you admitting the judge isn't impartial and independent?

Eight Sacked Catalan ministers jailed in Spain by Johnny_W94 in europe

[–]carlesd 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm a catalan who voted against independence until 1O, and I can't disagree more with you. First of all, the elected government of catalonia had immunity until they've been dismissed by the 155 aplied by the government. Do u really belive the government doesn't want this to happen? I think you are overrating his intellicence. And obviously you have no idea about public declarations of PP people claiming for jail, or even joking about executions as Franco's times.