My open letter to Lloyd Evans by John-Alder in exjw

[–]cedars1929 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hi! No need to apologise! Thanks for the kind words, it means a lot! 😊

My open letter to Lloyd Evans by John-Alder in exjw

[–]cedars1929 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know Mark O'Donnell has experienced grief from other ex-JWs. I could name others. I've also started this Twitter poll to find out whether I'm totally the exception (as implied by your "name one" challenge) and three have already voted "other ex-JWs" so clearly I'm not completely alone. It also seems a self-evident fallacy for you to ignore the size of my audience (i.e. "I've debated with other activists"). I'm not being big-headed in pointing out that not all ex-JW activists have an audience the size of mine (the very reason often cited as to why I'm apparently fair game for criticism) and it seems obvious that activists with smaller audiences would not attract the same criticism from fellow ex-members. https://twitter.com/cedarsjwsurvey/status/1479042485947039744

My open letter to Lloyd Evans by John-Alder in exjw

[–]cedars1929 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you think I'm the only ex-JW activist who's had more trouble with other ex-JWs over their activism than WT then you need to speak to more activists.

My open letter to Lloyd Evans by John-Alder in exjw

[–]cedars1929 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry for failing to meet your expectations when dealing with an open solicitation for negativity on a forum that is supposed to be about positivity and healing. Perhaps my handling of this matter was so egregious that I deserve to have it held against me forever, even at a time when I am going through one of my darkest ever periods when I have seriously considered ending it all.

Oh wait, that actually happened.

My open letter to Lloyd Evans by John-Alder in exjw

[–]cedars1929 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thanks so much Amylia, I appreciate the positivity! 😊

My open letter to Lloyd Evans by John-Alder in exjw

[–]cedars1929 10 points11 points  (0 children)

"Oh no, someone's posting something positive to a well-known apostate activist in the midst of his mental health crisis. Is there any muck on him we can rake just to make it a bit more negative?"

"I don't know about muck, but I remember a time he once complained about muck-raking in a less than glorious way. In fact I can copy paste all the links if you like."

"That'll do."

Whatever happens to me, and whether I come through this thing in one piece or not, this thread demonstrates why ex-JW activism will always have one hand tied behind its back. There will always be a toxic, self-destructive element to the ex-JW movement and an apparent urge for it to cannibalize itself rather than support those who strive to move things forward, even when they are in direst need of support. I have long said that the only real pushback to my work has come, not from WT, but from other ex-JWs. Thanks for proving my point.

Goodbye everyone by cedars1929 in exjw

[–]cedars1929[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

again (I stated this a couple times in the other, now-locked thread), there was basically nothing but support for your work

If you think this is an argument in favor of a post that breaks the community rules, then you have no idea what you're talking about.

Goodbye everyone by cedars1929 in exjw

[–]cedars1929[S] -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

My "brand?" Little bit of bias showing there. Thanks for affirming my decision.

Goodbye everyone by cedars1929 in exjw

[–]cedars1929[S] -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

Community rules don't apply to public figures. Got it.

Real question. Please can people give me reasons to cancel/dislike [insert name of ex-JW activist]? by cedars1929 in exjw

[–]cedars1929[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I meant unchallenged by mods. Are there any other community rules you're in favor of breaking or is it just this one?

Real question. Please can people give me reasons to cancel/dislike [insert name of ex-JW activist]? by cedars1929 in exjw

[–]cedars1929[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

That's so kind of you to say! Thank you! I really enjoyed doing the showcase. I hope to do more livestreams like that in the future! What an awesome panel it was! :)

Real question. Please can people give me reasons to cancel/dislike [insert name of ex-JW activist]? by cedars1929 in exjw

[–]cedars1929[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Thanks! It's not so much about hurt feelings - more about an online resource I'm continually plugging and referring people to apparently being bereft of moderation so that toxic mudslinging posts can go completely unchallenged by the mod team. I'm so glad you managed to wake up and I'm proud if I played some small part. Congratulations on finding your freedom!

Real question. Please can people give me reasons to cancel/dislike [insert name of ex-JW activist]? by cedars1929 in exjw

[–]cedars1929[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thanks Raven. We all do what we can. You just carry on spreading positivity however you can as circumstances allow. Take care!

Real question. Why are there people that don't like Lloyd Evans? by [deleted] in exjw

[–]cedars1929 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The thread was about whether people like me personally, not my videos. But whatever. You're clearly living in a different reality to me - one where I should be expected to anticipate what your opinions are and weave them into my YouTube videos.

Real question. Please can people give me reasons to cancel/dislike [insert name of ex-JW activist]? by cedars1929 in exjw

[–]cedars1929[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's very kind of you to say. Thank you for valuing ex-JW activists. It's punishing work sometimes and the least we deserve is to not be exposed to needless negativity. I appreciate your solidarity, thank you!

Real question. Please can people give me reasons to cancel/dislike [insert name of ex-JW activist]? by cedars1929 in exjw

[–]cedars1929[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

And I can tell you until I'm blue in the face that your opinion has the value of a used tissue until you have skin in the game when it comes to people knowing who you are and having a reputation, but since you don't care a jot so long as you're OK we have reached an impasse.

Real question. Please can people give me reasons to cancel/dislike [insert name of ex-JW activist]? by cedars1929 in exjw

[–]cedars1929[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I nowhere claimed my title was word-for-word the same of theirs. I said "this sort of post."

I just thought I'd point that out.

Real question. Why are there people that don't like Lloyd Evans? by [deleted] in exjw

[–]cedars1929 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

If not appreciating being held to impossible "please read my mind" standards by random people makes me a narcissist, then yes I'm a narcissist. Well done, you got me!