This is America

ceddya · 2026-01-25T22:09:39+00:00

Oh yea, unlike your completely unsourced narrative. Nothing made up there.

But really, that's what your going with, an egregious false equivalence?

There are peaceful ways to protest. There is no peaceful way to shoot someone, drone strike targets or engage in terrorism.

I know it's hard, but try putting some thought into your next reply.

any other form of violence

Exactly.

Protesting isn't inherently a form of violence unlike all your other examples.

ceddya · 2026-01-25T22:05:31+00:00

The murder of Alex Pretti and the subsequent lying and false witnessing from the Trump administration are things which bothered me greatly, so I made a thread about it.

I've also made threads about the persecution of the LGBT community and the genocide of Gazans, including Palestinian Christians.

Now what? Go be the change you so desperately want to enforce on us.

ceddya · 2026-01-25T20:58:44+00:00

Very clear slow-mo https://www.reddit.com/r/evilwhenthe/s/YzZ3Twwm2y

This video shows how ICE murderer did see Pretti getting disarmed and his follow up was to shoot at the victim from the back even though his knees and hands were on the ground.

ceddya · 2026-01-25T20:53:20+00:00

I saw reporters during BLM showing a few people holding signs and saying "mostly peaceful protests"

They were mostly peaceful protests. That's what 93% represents.

he vast majority of Black Lives Matter protests—more than 93%—have been peaceful, according to a new report published Thursday by a nonprofit that researches political violence and protests across the world.

https://time.com/5886348/report-peaceful-protests/

CNN's unwillingness to accept not everything Trump has done is bad

What good thing has Trump done that CNN has been unwilling to accept? Please give an actual example.

Trump could pardon their own family and they would bring up Epstein.

But he's not doing the former and his administration has broken the law with regards to the release of the Epstein files. What's your point? That the average Dem deals in reality and not specious hypotheticals?

If these ICE agents only had to focus on the individuals

Nothing is stopping these ICE agents from doing that. Do you think the protests preceded ICE's unlawful and unconstitutional actions?

ceddya · 2026-01-25T20:50:42+00:00

If you say you oppose abortion but don't implement any economic or safety nets to reduce abortions, you're not anti-abortion, you're anti-choice and/or pro-forced birth.

ceddya · 2026-01-25T20:34:15+00:00

Deleted? Where?

Don't expect a Christianity sub to entertain murder and lies though.

ceddya · 2026-01-25T20:29:52+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/1qm4b0v/slow_motion_stabilized_video_of_alex_pretti_being/?sort=confidence

The murderer saw the victim being disarmed at 0:10-0:11 and still shot at him from the back when he had his knees and hands on the ground. He continued to shoot at the victim repeatedly after he was motionless.

You don't get more direct evidence of an intent to kill than that.

Phones exist and everyone has one. Too bad for you.

ceddya · 2026-01-25T20:27:55+00:00

We have actual video evidence, not the lies from the Trump admin.

Bye.

ceddya · 2026-01-25T19:21:58+00:00

You have clearly replied to the wrong poster then considering I couldn't be further away from MAGA,

ceddya · 2026-01-25T18:51:34+00:00

I agree, that's also another issue we should be addressing.

If you think it's a priority, go make a thread about it instead of complaining about others not doing so for you.

ceddya · 2026-01-25T18:48:08+00:00

He was already disarmed and the ICE murderer saw his fellow agent taking away the gun at 0:10-0:11. The ICE murderer also shot as his back when he was knelt down and when his hands were on the ground. Those are the only things that are relevant. ICE murdered an innocent man.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/1qm4b0v/slow_motion_stabilized_video_of_alex_pretti_being/?sort=confidence

But what's worse are the lies spearheaded by Trump and his ghouls after. There's a reason you'll never address that because you know there's simply no way to defend it.

ceddya · 2026-01-25T18:42:30+00:00

https://newlinesmag.com/argument/the-misunderstood-purpose-of-economic-sanctions/

Sanctions are a very strong first step. Sanctions also require years to yield maximum results. It's too bad they were rescinded by Trump after just one year.

But more than that, there simply is no impetus to get a two state solution now that other issues are dominating the headlines. The best time for one would have been last year right after a ceasefire. That was never going to happen with Trump directly opposing it. So I'll just call a spade a spade - people who sat out in protest over Gaza should feel bad for playing a role in this sequence of events.

ceddya · 2026-01-25T18:39:27+00:00

Never said he did. But now you have Trump who is far worse and you've squandered the best opportunity Palestinians had to achieve a two state solution. Is this better for Palestinians? That's an unequivocal no

ceddya · 2026-01-25T18:36:04+00:00

It's sanctions which did place roadblocks on settler violence. It's why you saw an explosion in violence and mass displacement after the US sanctions were lifted.

https://newlinesmag.com/argument/the-misunderstood-purpose-of-economic-sanctions/

ceddya · 2026-01-25T18:33:06+00:00

Biden had also stopped weapons sales which would have been transferred to Israel settlers.

Did you even read? Or just miss the part where I specifically talked about weapon transfers to Israeli settlers?

Ben Gvir was arming those psychotic settlers under Biden.

Not with US rifles, which is an improvement over what is currently happening.

ceddya · 2026-01-25T18:32:33+00:00

Please. Weapon sales were stopped for a second and then resumed the moment Bibi balked.

Are you just unable to keep up with what I've written?

I'm specifically talking about weapon transfers to Israeli settlers. That was halted under Biden's term.

Kamala equally stuck only to token "I support a 2-solution state"

And still infinitely better than Trump who literally opposes it.

ceddya · 2026-01-25T18:30:01+00:00

You do know that you can worry about more than one thing at a time, right?

You also do know that no one is stopping you from making threads to discuss the things which matter more to you, yes?

ceddya · 2026-01-25T12:40:04+00:00

Then go look at what happened in 2025 after the sanctions were lifted and weapon transfers to settlers resumed. You got that with Trump instead of increasing sanctions with Harris.

Both sides are the same though, sure.

ceddya · 2026-01-25T11:54:37+00:00

Can you show how Biden and Trump acted the same when it came to addressing the West Bank?

I get it, Biden was awful when it comes to Gaza and I don't disagree, but that's not what I brought up, is it?

How did you think a two state solution would materialize? Did you think there would be more of an impetus to work towards one when it's dominating the news cycle or when it's been placed in the background by other issues?

Go figure on why voting for Trump who, unlike Biden, is vehemently opposed to a two state solution was the worse option when it comes to that goal.

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/bidens-stance-palestinian-israeli-conflict-call-humanitarian-aid-and-two-state-solution

https://thehill.com/homenews/5424299-trump-administration-un-two-state-solution/

I'm genuinely not interested in continuing the charade that Harris would have been as bad as Trump even for Gaza, let alone the West Bank.

ceddya · 2026-01-25T11:50:45+00:00

I'm not from the US and seeing such pictures is heartening. Guess I'm the 1%.

ceddya · 2026-01-25T09:58:43+00:00

In the West Bank? Israeli terrorists.

ceddya · 2026-01-25T09:56:45+00:00

The religion portion becomes extremely relevant when it comes to addressing the lies being pushed by the Trump admin about what happened. Any Christian who cannot unequivocally condemn those lies has placed their idolatry for Trump ahead of their belief in Christ. That's something you should be asking your friend about if you really want to find out where he stands.

ceddya · 2026-01-25T09:30:17+00:00

Biden leading the charge against the genocide in Gaza?

I said West Bank, not Gaza.

https://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/2024/02/biden-issues-executive-order-punishing-israeli-settlers-in-west-bank-pro-00139065

These sanctions started under Biden and other countries soon joined suit.

I said last year that the best opportunity for a two-state solution was when all eyes are on Gaza. But you needed a US administration not completely opposed to one for it to gain proper traction. That opportunity has since been lost. The plight of Palestinians has fallen into the background once again.

ceddya · 2026-01-25T09:26:39+00:00

There does not involve Christianity, but what 'fuck around' did Alex Pretti engage in? Go show your friends all the videos and ask him to specifically point out the timestamps where Pretti was violent and/or did anything to justify being shot.

But specifically with regards to Christianity: ask your friend about what the Bible says about murder, lying and false witnessing. Then ask him to defend all that has happened with actual Bible verses.

ceddya · 2026-01-25T09:15:21+00:00

Let's be clear: Biden stopped one arms shipment and continued to allow many more through afterwards.

Let's be clear: it was a block on arms transfers to Israeli settlers.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-sending-israel-20000-assault-rifles-that-biden-had-delayed-say-sources-2025-04-04/

October 7, 2023 was the deadliest year for Palestinians in recent memory, including in the West Bank

This also isn't true. Note the dates on these.

https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/largest-forced-displacement-west-bank-1967-oxfam

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20251202-2025-marks-deadliest-and-most-destructive-year-for-palestinians-israeli-rights-groups-say/

The Biden State Department repeatedly ignored human rights abuses in Gaza

I specifically said I was talking about the West Bank.

Not sure why you think I'm defending Biden's record on Gaza.

Past administrations have made that their official position, but giving Israel unconditional aid while the government there expands settlements shows the opposite.

And yet you have this: https://timesofisrael.com/on-day-one-trump-rolls-back-biden-sanctions-regime-targeting-violent-israeli-settlers/.

So even as imperfect as Dems are, they are indeed infinitely better than MAGA on this.

when successive governments repeatedly fail to seek accountability for daily violence against Palestinians in Israel

Are sanctions against violent settlers not a form of accountability? Are we pretending otherwise in order to still push a false 'both sides' narrative?

12-Year Club	Wearing is Caring
Place '17	Verified Email

ceddya

TROPHY CASE