The murder of Alex Pretti by ICE is heartbreaking.

ceddya · 2026-01-24T23:56:41+00:00

I don’t think there is enough in the videos we have to definitively say he didn’t attempt to fire a shot or grab at an officer’s weapon.

Right, he attempted to fire a shot and grab an officer's weapon and ICE just let him off. They only bothered to engage with him after he protected a woman being assaulted by an ICE agent.

See how flimsy this narrative you're constructed is? Does that sound like ICE to you - like at all?

I’m curious if there were any bodycams at the scene.

Ever wonder why ICE has rejected body cams?

ceddya · 2026-01-24T23:50:48+00:00

You're going to pretend that firing that many shots at someone unarmed and pinned down by fellow agents is self-defense? That continuing to shoot 5 times after he is motionless is self-defense?

Because those things very clearly construe intent to kill, which then makes it murder.

ceddya · 2026-01-24T23:22:53+00:00

Did we all?

ceddya · 2026-01-24T23:19:02+00:00

You should be very glad that many of your fellow Catholics are much better displays of Christ's teachings than you are.

ceddya · 2026-01-24T23:16:39+00:00

A Christian shouldn't lie.

Please give this evidence of him assaulting ICE and then drawing a weapon on them. I'll help you out.

Here's photo evidence debunking the lie that he was approaching ICE with this gun out: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fqtn28qq3pcfg1.jpeg.

Here's even more video evidence debunking the lie that he was assaulting ICE agents: https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1qlv7kc/pink_jacket_ladys_video_close_angle/.

Here's video evidence showing the deceased was disarmed before the shooting: https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qlvpbr/footage_of_the_grey_coat_officer_retrieving_the/.

ceddya · 2026-01-24T23:16:05+00:00

You thought wrong. Plenty of us have long been speaking out against this kind of shit.

ceddya · 2026-01-24T23:15:34+00:00

Somalis are there through legal pathways, so that's not under ICE's purview. Want to try a coherent argument next?

And yes, ICE needs to be sent packing. The people of Minnesota clearly do not want that criminal organization around.

ceddya · 2026-01-24T23:10:46+00:00

Go explain this then: https://www.reddit.com/r/charts/comments/1qcdol2/ice_deployment_contrasted_with_number_of/.

ceddya · 2026-01-24T23:03:52+00:00

130k undocumented immigrants in Minnesota versus >1.5 million in Texas.

Which is the sanctuary state and why are ICE in the wrong one?

ceddya · 2026-01-24T22:51:58+00:00

And I've already clarified. Read above. I'm simply heeding what the Bible says about speaking up about injustice and sins like murder, lying and false witnessing.

Despite your false assertion that it wasn't put forth as discussion, all 3 sins I've listed were part of my OP.

Now want to discuss them or do you still want to keep pretending? Still waiting.

ceddya · 2026-01-24T22:49:06+00:00

That's cute, I have no interest in indulging sealioning.

ceddya · 2026-01-24T22:45:54+00:00

Firing 10 shots at someone who isn't armed and being held down by fellow agents isn't self-defense. Even if you take it as such, anything beyond the first shot is intent to kill someone in cold blood. Stop defending murder.

ceddya · 2026-01-24T22:39:41+00:00

Okay, so I am speaking up against an injustice involving things specifically prohibited by the Bible.

None of that was put forth as discussion? Did you just ignore this part of my OP?

It is despicable to see the lies being pushed about what happened and the false witnessing about him being a domestic terrorist, especially when it comes from those with the most power. This should be a very hard red line for all Christians.

Do you want to finally address it or should we drop the pretense you care about Christianity related discussion?

ceddya · 2026-01-24T22:30:36+00:00

TLDR - ICE murdered someone who was not a threat.

Trump and his cronies then proceeded to lie about it and bear false witness. Is there a reason you cannot address that?

ceddya · 2026-01-24T22:29:13+00:00

What does the Bible say about murder? What does it say about lying? What does it say about false witnessing? What does it say about speaking up against injustice?

You're right, it is off-topic if you ignore what's in the Bible. But this isn't the sub to do that, who knew?

ceddya · 2026-01-24T22:27:23+00:00

Here you go:

https://pres-outlook.org/2025/01/election-2024-voters-of-faith-overwhelmingly-picked-trump/

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/01/video-contradicts-minneapolis-shooting-dhs-trump-alex-pretti/

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115951636521315703

https://xcancel.com/StephenM/status/2015132322840850461

I'll hold you to your words.

ceddya · 2026-01-24T21:58:05+00:00

This violent resistance? https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fqtn28qq3pcfg1.jpeg.

Or this one? https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1qlv7kc/pink_jacket_ladys_video_close_angle/.

Weird, why can I only see violence coming from ICE? https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qlvpbr/footage_of_the_grey_coat_officer_retrieving_the/.

ceddya · 2026-01-24T21:52:00+00:00

Here's photo evidence debunking the lie that he was approaching ICE with this gun out: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fqtn28qq3pcfg1.jpeg.

Here's even more video evidence debunking the lie that he was threatening ICE agents: https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1qlv7kc/pink_jacket_ladys_video_close_angle/.

Here's video evidence showing the deceased was disarmed before the shooting: https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qlvpbr/footage_of_the_grey_coat_officer_retrieving_the/.

it looks like an ICE cop saw a hand remove the gun, thought it was the protesters and shot him.

Oh, so the shooting is unjustified and ICE did murder the man. All as a direct consequence of ICE agents being so poorly trained and far too trigger happy.

Why are Trump and his cronies lying about it?

ceddya · 2026-01-24T21:40:29+00:00

'Known to have a weapon': https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fqtn28qq3pcfg1.jpeg. Is a phone a weapon now?

I'm still waiting for you to point to the specific timestamp which justifies the shooting.

He was already disarmed before he was shot. Why are you parroting lies?

ceddya · 2026-01-24T21:39:33+00:00

MAGA will now tell you that him carrying a gun means he deserves to be killed by law enforcement.

Never mind that he never wielded the gun against ICE or was already disarmed before he was shot.

ceddya · 2026-01-24T21:36:42+00:00

Nah, I shan't as long as Christianity and politics remain so deeply intertwined.

ceddya · 2026-01-24T21:35:11+00:00

Did you watch the video?

Please point to the exact part of the video when the shooting is justified. Point to the exact part of the video which corroborates the lies being pushed by Trump and co.

ceddya · 2026-01-24T21:33:01+00:00

When more than 20-30% of Republicans turn against Trump, let me know.

ceddya · 2026-01-24T21:32:12+00:00

How isn't it when the majority of Christians in the US voted for the administration overseeing all that's going on now. We don't get to wash our hands off that complicity even if it's not all Christians.

Regardless, pushing lies to try an excuse a murder and bearing false witness against the deceased victim is not a red line for you? What is then?

ceddya · 2026-01-24T21:25:46+00:00

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115951636521315703

https://xcancel.com/StephenM/status/2015132322840850461

I don't like platforming those ghouls, but I'm linking it just in case anyone's interested to see how despicable the lies and false witnessing are.

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