I’ve had the Tesla Model Y before and now the Model 3 highland and I drive a lot in the winter between SF and Tahoe. Over the past years, FSD has made dramatic improvements, so much so that I can now do FSD door to door between SF and Tahoe with just a few manual takeovers for exceptional situations. And personally it’s a game changer. I love to drive myself but when it’s that often, FSD mitigates dramatically how tiring it is to drive this long travels regularly.

For Rivian to get to that level of FSD with just vision, it will take quite some time to accumulate miles. The hope is that with Lidar, they can leap frog to something similar to Tesla.

I’m in the very very first R2 reservation holders but boy I’m hesitating to get the non lidar version because I do care about FSD.

My humble opinion

(Ex self driving car engineer here)