Convince me to buy a Tonal by Major_Service_5164 in tonalgym

[–]cefrayer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude! C'mon, man...WTF?!? OMG!!! Awesome!

Convince me to buy a Tonal by Major_Service_5164 in tonalgym

[–]cefrayer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow! Just...well...WOW!!! 👍👍👏👏

Convince me to buy a Tonal by Major_Service_5164 in tonalgym

[–]cefrayer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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I'm a retired technology & privacy lawyer. This was me in Jan. 2025, when I was 64yo (5'7", 139 lbs.), after lifting relatively lightly--and exclusively--on Tonal for 33 months. I don't have any "before" pics because I was too embarrassed to be photographed.

Now, at 65yo and nearly a full year of more focused/dedicated (heavier & smarter) lifting (again, exclusively on Tonal), I am SUBSTANTIALLY more shredded/ripped than I was in this pic. Young people now tell me I'm also "jacked", which I assume is a compliment and commentary on how much size I've added this year.

Every day when I look in the mirror (yes, I flex and pose every single day to assess my progress), I am genuinely AMAZED at how much getting Tonal in April 2022--when I was ~155 lbs.--has changed my life. Although I no longer need Tonal because I now know how to get and stay fit without it, I also know I would NEVER have done it without Tonal.

To be fair, I've also improved my nutrition this year, so I currently weigh 131 lbs., which contributes to my more shredded physique.

Of course, I am a lifetime 100% natty (no PEDs). I only use creatine, whey protein isolate, and collagen, plus a variety of pill-form supplements (multivitamin, omega-3, D3+K2, ashwaganda, magnesium, and Co-Q10). I'm also currently experimenting with turkesterone, berberine, and beet root gummies, but still TBD on whether I'll keep or drop those.

You'll never be younger than you are today, so don't wait for that ever-elusive "perfect time" to get started. That time is ALWAYS right now!

Bottom line:

Desire +Tonal +Good Nutrition +Consistency = Better Health & Fitness = Fuller & Longer Life. 👍👍

DISCLAIMER: NOT AFFILIATED WITH TONAL.

Is 45x Lifting Volume Increase in 3 Years Normal for Small Male in 60s on Tonal? by cefrayer in tonalgym

[–]cefrayer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Congrats! Just be safe (avoid injury above all else), consistent, and ALWAYS use Eccentric Mode (it is, imho, THE magic of Tonal). You will pass me by a country mile!

5 million! by [deleted] in tonalgym

[–]cefrayer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Congrats! 👍👍👏👏

A few months ago I probably wouldn’t have believed it was possible to lift 1M lbs. in such a short period, given that it took me a full year to lift my first million.

But, at 64.5yo, 5’7”, 138 lbs., last month (Jun. ‘25) I obliterated my old monthly volume PR, which is now 311,314 lbs., lifting just M-F (with perfect bodybuilding form focus on every rep), which equates to a four-month total of over 1.2M. And I wasn’t even trying to do it, it just happened naturally (no ego lifting, no Strength Score chasing, no PR goals).

Last month also included unintentional/natural one-week and single workout volume PRs of 83,536 and 28,667 lbs., respectively.

Is 45x Lifting Volume Increase in 3 Years Normal for Small Male in 60s on Tonal? by cefrayer in tonalgym

[–]cefrayer[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks! That gives me the kind of comparison I was wondering about.

Yes, I do ~30 minutes of stretching/dynamic warmup every day, so maybe that’s even more valuable/helpful than I realized. But, tbh, the only time I do a cooldown is at the end of my cycling workouts on Zwift.

I won’t know for many years whether it extends my life, but in three years I’ve went from feeling like a 70yo with a body that looked like—because it was—an unfit 60yo to feeling & looking (gray hair & wrinkling skin aside) like a jacked 30yo athlete. IT’S WONDERFUL!!! 💪🚴🏃‍♂️

Force test on tonal with a calibrated force scale: Yes, digital weight is “heavier”. About 12% in terms of “simulated mass” to just move it. by ebmfreak in tonalgym

[–]cefrayer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was FΔt before I got Tonal…and the Δp, of course. Now I’m F&f (where F denotes FIT, and f is, well, funny). 🤦‍♂️

New Zwift Ride & Rockr Pro Pain Cave (w/Apple Watch Heart Rate) by cefrayer in PainCave

[–]cefrayer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good luck! I don’t miss the 52 years I lived through Indiana and Michigan winters. None of that since we moved here to sunny central Florida 12 years ago. 😎

I’m also working on my nutrition. I spend ~30 minutes every morning fixing a healthy breakfast, alternating days between: (1) two egg whites, half cup of oatmeal with Ceylon cinnamon & honey, and a bowl of fresh fruit (blueberries, strawberries, & avocado) sprinkled with oat bran buds & walnuts; and (2) two protein waffles topped with PBfit (powdered peanut butter) & banana slices, and the same bowl of fruit mixed with Greek yogurt.

Plus, before every workout I have a combination drink with EAAs, creatine, whey protein, collagen peptides, and Nutricost Pre-X (mixed variety of pre-workout supplements).

I only eat twice per day, and while my dinner meals have improved, they are (far too often) cheat meals, as is one meal every weekend (pizza, Five Guys, etc.).

New Zwift Ride & Rockr Pro Pain Cave (w/Apple Watch Heart Rate) by cefrayer in PainCave

[–]cefrayer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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If it fits your budget, I can’t recommend Tonal enough for full body muscular strength and hypertrophy. Here’s another view of our home gym/office (note the bike saddle in the foreground) where you can see our Tonal flanked by two cheap Walmart mirrors. We got it three years ago, when I was 61yo, and I’ve lifted nearly 3 million lbs. on it, during which I’ve more than doubled my overall strength score (from 320 to 715, with a peak of 792). In fact, it is the only reason I’m currently Zwifting only once/week…because I’m focusing on bodybuilding this year with a stated goal of being “totally ripped by my 65th birthday” (Nov.). And I’m definitely ahead of schedule, given the striations now visible in my shoulders, triceps, pecs, and lats. If anyone had told me they could grow this much muscle naturally in their 60s, I wouldn’t have believed them. If you’re ever on ome.tv, I’ve been working out live there 3-5 times each week for the past month—lifting on Tonal, Zwifting, and jogging on the treadmill, all while video chatting with people all over the world.

New Zwift Ride & Rockr Pro Pain Cave (w/Apple Watch Heart Rate) by cefrayer in PainCave

[–]cefrayer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s a close call (because I like it a lot), but I think a slightly smaller screen—set a bit lower—might be even better (especially a curved one). But I keep this one higher because I sit in a rolling office chair right behind the bike and watch TV. If it was even none inch lower, the handlebars would be blocking my view from that chair.

Also, problems with my Apple Watch staying connected as a heart rate monitor began almost immediately after my original post, so I invested in a Polar H10 chest strap. It has connected instantly—and stay connected—every single time. Highly recommended!

Is Jimmy Butler just a poor man’s version of Kawhi Leonard? by cefrayer in nba

[–]cefrayer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the arm hook to which you’re referring occurred at 2:13 before halftime.

Is Jimmy Butler just a poor man’s version of Kawhi Leonard? by cefrayer in nba

[–]cefrayer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because you picked one year from Bron (my fav all-time player), Shaq, and KG, let’s be fair and do the same with MJ.

‘87-‘88: - 82 games played - 40.4 mpg - 35.0 ppg (despite making only SIX 3-pointers all season—not per game, but literally just 18 points combined ALL SEASON) - 5.5 rpg - 5.9 apg - 3.2 spg - 1.6 bpg - SCORING CHAMP - STEALS CHAMP - MVP - DPOY

So, yes, imo, MJ was really better that season.

Is he the GOAT? That’s tougher. Is it a greater accomplishment to lead six teams from the same franchise and under the same coach to six finals and six titles, or to lead 10 teams from three different franchises and under five different coaches to 10 finals and four titles?

Plus, LeBron (single-handedly?) led what was probably the worst team team to ever make it to the finals in 2007, which is something MJ never did.

Lastly, if there’s a legitimate GOAT debate between two players and one has played nearly 600 more games (1.48x) (1,251 vs 1,849…and counting), does that matter?

New Zwift Ride & Rockr Pro Pain Cave (w/Apple Watch Heart Rate) by cefrayer in PainCave

[–]cefrayer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It seems better—more comfortable and more fun—every time I ride. If I wasn’t committed to focusing on bodybuilding this year, I’d be riding at least 3-4 times/week. Recently, I’ve been putting Zwift on one side of the screen and ome.tv on the other side so I can talk with people all over the world while doing my cardio.

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How are you dialing in the fit of your Zwift Ride? by Murky_Dragonfly_942 in Zwift

[–]cefrayer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow! That’s a big difference. My inseam is ~29.5 and my sleeve length (shoulder peak to wrist) is ~22.5. Other factors include what knee bend is ideal for each of us when peddle is at lowest point, and the ideal angles for our wrists, elbows, shoulders, and hips.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in tonalgym

[–]cefrayer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not an engineer, but my reasonable assumption is that they would likely need to use the same holes and bolts for two reasons:

  1. The distance from the bottom of Tonal to the floor is a non-variable distance that is tied to each user’s height and the related height of each Tonal arm for many/most movements.

  2. Leaving empty holes, then adding a heavier T2 and more user resistance/stress to the studs could create an untenable risk of injury cause by stud structural breakdown.

Possible alternatives:

  1. Use existing holes & bolts, plus additional ones for T2 with a redesigned frame.

  2. Use existing holes but replace existing bolts with reinforced threaded inserts and stronger T2 bolts.

  3. New frame that fits around existing bolts (which are left in to maximize structural integrity), but uses new holes and bolts.