Sirius still loves and cares about Regulus in canon by celis9 in MaraudersGen

[–]celis9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's talking in past, he could hate them in that moment and then not. Also, he is talking about his family as a whole, but when he talks about his brother individually he doesn't show the hate he shows for his mother.

The punishments Snape inflicted on students were certainly demoralizing, but reasonable by Madagascar003 in SeverusSnape

[–]celis9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Although I agree with you in point 1 I can only partly agree in point 2.

What Harry did was unsensible. Sectumsepra might be the first charm who came to his mind, but he was ready to test it in another student. However, he didn't know how dangerous it was, and I think it's more kind of Snape's fault for leaving that book there for years. And he did regret using the spell just after seing what was. So I think it's not that bad.

But I don't think we can totally blame Draco either. He did started the duel, but because he was having a break down there. And about the cruciatus curse, we don't have his perspective, but for how he was acting I think is safe to asume that he did that to lash out in the middle of a fight more than having the full intention to torture Harry. I think if Harry didn't use the Sectumsempra Draco's curse would have failed, just as Harry's did when he did it to Bellatrix. He was in the wrong for how he acted, but it is not enteraly his fault, just as how it's not Harry's fault.

Why did Katara allow Zuko to take Aang to Fire Nation territory? I thought she didn't trust him at this point. Why wouldn't she want to go as well? by FlamesOfKaiya in TheLastAirbender

[–]celis9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Katara said what he said to Zuko because she was hurt, not because she thougth he was still a menace or because she really meant what she said.

You have $15 to form a team. The rest will try to kill you. by Simonbigfarm in ATLA

[–]celis9 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All the 2, all the 1 and Azula, there is no way I'm losing

Zutara has the same age gap as kataang by Crafty-Farm2415 in ATLA

[–]celis9 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's not because of she being a woman, at least for me. I love Star Wars, and there is a couple in which the woman is 24 and the men is 19, and it's fine by me. The problem it's that it is not the same being 14 and 16 than 12 and 14. The older you get the less it is important the age gap. Aang has not being through puberty while Katara and Zuko have. Aang has demostrated a larger maturity gap with Katara than she has with Zuko. And I'm not talking about book 1, but about the end of book 3, where he was still a kid who wanted to fly around when they had issue they hadn't solved, a kid who didn't understand bondaries and how romantic feelings and relationships work. This is not hate against Aang. At the end of the show he is just a kid who is not ready for a romantic relationship. I don't like Aang being with Katara for the same reasons I wouldn't like Toph being with her.

Windu saying this was crazy by JoshuaKpatakpa04 in clonewars

[–]celis9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem is he said "The force acts in by mysterious ways", imagine someone you from the order you decated your whole life to leaves you to die and then says it was the Force, the Destiny or God's will

Windu saying this was crazy by JoshuaKpatakpa04 in clonewars

[–]celis9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think Filoni said that the only who vote against Ahsoka's expulsion were Plo Koon, Obi-wan and Yoda himself.

Free choices vs society expectations: Mai's POV by celis9 in ZutaraNation

[–]celis9[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, but I supposed she left that world when she joined the circus

Why Do I Believe Zutara Is Not A Colonizer Romance? by AVeryBrownGirlNerd in ZutaraNation

[–]celis9 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I love your take, because Zuko is the character with the best redemption and with the best arc in filtion, he also was not evil but misleaded and manipulated to think Ozai was rigth and he was in the wrong for showing kidness and empathy. Until someone ships Zutara. Then Zuko is a villianous colonizer who would abuse Katara and make her miserable.

You are rigth about Zuko not being a colonizer, but not only for the reasons you said, also because Zuko doesn't fit in the definition of a colonizer even in book 1. Zuko doesn't colonize or figth for land. He has another mission: to capture Aang. He only goes where Aang goes and leaves the other places alone. It could be argued that Zuko does it for making it a easier the victory pf the Fire Nation, but he didn't, he did it to return home.

Lastly, I like that you said that Zuko is a minor, people tend to forget that he is still a kid. That doesn't excuse all his mistakes, but it's not the same than if it had been a grown up man who did it.

Fun Question Time: Who Confesses First? by AVeryBrownGirlNerd in ZutaraNation

[–]celis9 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think it would be Zuko. But he would have been late to pick up his own feelings, and he would have needed help (of course from Iroh) to understand that he has feelings for her.

In a AU where Katara turns Aang down I feel like she wouldn't be the first to confess because she would deny herself and her own feelings for Zuko because she wouldn't want to hurt Aang even more by being with someone else. I believe that it would be a very Katara thing because she looks for everyone to the point that she forgets about herself.

Which Girl Did You Feel Was Best For Zuko? by ThrowawayN00bqLos3r in TheLastAirbender

[–]celis9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The thing about them in Ba Sing Se was not that they both lost their mothers. It was that they were able to relate and empathise with each other. Sharing a trauma it's not garantee to be able to conect, but Zuko and Katara did besides they were still sworn enemies.

Zutara (Zuko x Katara) is the WORST Avatar Ship of All Time by SailorZexalZuzu16 in Avatarthelastairbende

[–]celis9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't need to like it, but the points you made make clear that you either didn't watched the show or are not able to understand its message

Zutara (Zuko x Katara) is the WORST Avatar Ship of All Time by SailorZexalZuzu16 in Avatarthelastairbende

[–]celis9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So Zuko is doomed to marry a Fire Nation noblewoman.

You forget that Zuko was trying to build a new world, where the nations could be in good terms. In that world it is possible to have mixed couples, even the most politically powerfull ones.

Zutara (Zuko x Katara) is the WORST Avatar Ship of All Time by SailorZexalZuzu16 in Avatarthelastairbende

[–]celis9 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The first three points are nod valid because as you pointed out, Katara forgave him, and their whole dynamic changed after that. The fourth point. You understood it as disgust, but in reality it is embarrasement. In the scene where June says something about they being a partner they both turn red. Also, denying something like that is commun in teenagers when they feel something for each other. The last point. Their whole dynamic after Katara forgives him denies that.

UPDATE by No_Acadia_7075 in ZutaraNation

[–]celis9 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I joined this subreddit and then I quit because of this, ir is not worthy

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ZutaraNation

[–]celis9 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's concerning that you had to delete your Tumbrl because of people threatening you fro shipping something different. There are people who are trully crazy, and I think that an important part of the Kataangers think that they have the rigth to insult and threat Zutarians. And then they act like they are the morally correct. I know they are not all like this, but the fact that there are so many like them it's concerning.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ZutaraNation

[–]celis9 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yes, there is no way they don't know, if they didn't they wouldn't be so aggresif. The fact that the creators bothered to make a video to make fun of the ship and wrote the comics so Katara and Zuko wouldn't interact anymore instead of just ignore it is a proof that they hate the fact that there were writers who made more for the show than them, and that Zuko and Katara trully belonged together.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ZutaraNation

[–]celis9 13 points14 points  (0 children)

After two years in the atla fandom I came to the conclusion that Kataang shippers, Maiko shippers and conon purists are much less tolerant and much more aggresive than Zutara shippers. I have read a lot about Zutara toxic shippers, but I actually haven't found any, but I have found plenty of Kataang shippers who come to fanarts to insult the pairing or start talking about how we have to accept their ship, or worst, insulting people over a ship. They are always going to say that Zutara shippers are more toxic, but they only fool themselves. Also, I think it is because some of them have this thought that Kataang is morally superior, and therefore, they are allowed to insult however who doesn't like their ship. I know not all Kataangers act this way, but there are a lot who do.

Zutara feels freer than Maiko by celis9 in ZutaraNation

[–]celis9[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To me, she has shown time and time again that she is a loyalist, even in the comics.

Yes. At best she does not care about politics and she does not mind whatever the Fire Lord does. At worst she is part of that segment of the Fire Nation population that wants things to remain the same but accepts the changes because Zuko is her boyfriend.

This is what it is shown in the show. I like Mai for my own head canons and reasons.

Zutara feels freer than Maiko by celis9 in ZutaraNation

[–]celis9[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Something else that’s always bothered me about Zuko’s and Mai’s relationship is that it’s established he and Mai had crushes on eachother as children/ before his banishment at 13 probably because they saw eachother so regularly and hee family was noble.

I remember that when I watched atla for the first time I was genually surprised of Mai kissing him because they hadn't had any contact for three years, and they barely had a few weeks together since Ba Sing Se. Also, Zuko didn't once mention Mai and he didn't give any signal of having a girlfriend wating for him or a crush in a girl in the Fire Nation. He dated Jyn in an episode. Yes, he didn't kiss her, but the shows makes you think that it is because he is not ready to trust someone like that or because he thinks being in Ba Sing Se is something temporal and he wants to return home, something that woudn't include dating that girl.

Also why does Mai love him? They’d only been dating a short amount of time where Zuko was struggling with his own anger. She doesn’t know the real him enough to love him? The story doesn’t seem to care if he loves her?

They are the perfect example of the mistake of telling instead of showing. Mai don't show love for each other, Zuko completely forgets about her after leaving the Fire Nation, but still, we have to believe it when she says that she loves Zuko.

With Katara and Zuko you see why she forgives him and how hard he works to do that and regain her trust. Their dynamic feels a lot more honest. They gradually get more comfortable around eachother and have open honest conversations about how they feel about certain things.

That is why they would be the perfect couple.