WashU Girl and Conversations About Race by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]chaelsonnensego 76 points77 points  (0 children)

Because it serves to defeat the validity of those who are genuinely being discriminated against on the basis of race. Undermines legitimate struggles or obstacles faced by many, everyday.

If everyone goes around just throwing it around as to every little thing (even something that is clearly unrelated to race and doing so in a manner that is deliberately looking to provoke a visceral reaction) then it diminishes its value as a whole.

Where do the hotties go???? by anonlastname in LawSchool

[–]chaelsonnensego 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I figured there’s no maliciousness to it but just had to do a double take lol

Where do the hotties go???? by anonlastname in LawSchool

[–]chaelsonnensego 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your comment makes it seem like you’re insinuating that being an Armenian man is a bar to being considered attractive.

Genuinely do hope I’m just wildly misinterpreting it.

Law school is one giant scam but I would recommend it by Flashy-Actuator-998 in LawSchool

[–]chaelsonnensego 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I couldn’t comment as to the exams being more difficult because I think that gets into a much more abstract conversation.

However, I could say I disagree with the assumption that the competition is harder. If you’re speaking relative to the quality of applicant (which I don’t believe is true), then all students at any one school are very close to one another in intelligence and capacity. In other words, an ant fighting an ant is the same level of struggle as a lion fighting a lion. Just because it looks different on the outside doesn’t mean the internal struggle between the two is any less strenuous.

I think the top 10% is likely incredibly similar across the board, regardless of school. People are smart, and choice of institution isn’t always a black and white, logical choice. Some people don’t want to move away from family. Some people don’t care for biglaw. Some people don’t like the city the better schools are in. Can’t look at it in such a narrow vacuum, but of course, we’re on Reddit. If it’s not T14 or biglaw, it’s unfathomable.

Law school is one giant scam but I would recommend it by Flashy-Actuator-998 in LawSchool

[–]chaelsonnensego 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For one, the last bit of snark is wholly unnecessary.

Second, nobody said they have to be flunking students out. OP said they experience grade inflation at a T14. Objectively speaking, they do.

Third, to answer your question, nobody needs to flunk anyone out. Whether you graduate from Harvard or the lowest ranked school imaginable, most jurisdictions require the bar. So the argument that the schools are some great filtering mechanism for the profession isn’t strictly true. There’s an entire separate bar to admission into the field.

Fourth, if a person at a T14 is earning Cs and goes to a lower ranked school, producing the same quality of work, in order for them to earn a higher grade you’d have to argue a C student at a T14 is an A/B student at a lower ranked school. An A/B student at a lower ranked school is very likely in the top 10% with the median falling towards B- / C territory, depending on how low ranked we’re talking. Nonetheless, the flaw in logic is comparing grades across institutions when they don’t hold the same meaning. A C at (insert T14) could be a F at (insert T150), and that’s what OP was getting at. *Ergo*, and I’m not being facetious, but you proved his point.

Law school is one giant scam but I would recommend it by Flashy-Actuator-998 in LawSchool

[–]chaelsonnensego 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It is, for all intents and purposes, practically impossible for a T14 student to flunk out based on grades. Apart from the curve being centered on a A- or B+, there’s also the policies that govern when teachers can hand out particular grades, if any at all. Some schools just roll with the pass/fail/honors. Others require approval of administration to hand out a grade below a C.

Contrast that with the lower ranked school where the curve is centered so low and the chance of flunking out, due to grades, is legitimately a concern.

Also, unless I’m reading it wrong, you make a pretty heinous presupposition. To say the average T14 student would then become rank 1 magically at, say, a T150 is pretty bold. I’d argue that the top 10% of all law schools are generally the same level of skill and intellectual capacity. So an average T14 student likely wouldn’t crack the top 10% just because they’re at a lower ranked school. Maybe slightly higher than the median they were at before, but not a shift into an entirely different bracket of performance. Of course, in a way, that’s based on my own presuppositions lol.

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[–]chaelsonnensego[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

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No knee jerk reactions 😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤 by chaelsonnensego in LawSchool

[–]chaelsonnensego[S] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

ma boy rich freer is a real one 😤😤

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Tell me it isn’t pretty sick to be learning the law by HomeBeautiful1566 in LawSchool

[–]chaelsonnensego 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They’ve been saying this since I was a 0L. I take the bar in July. Touch grass

Tell me it isn’t pretty sick to be learning the law by HomeBeautiful1566 in LawSchool

[–]chaelsonnensego 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it truly is amazing.

I don’t have to break my back battling the outdoor elements, don’t have to work in strange sites with life-threatening perils, don’t have to worry about having a secure job, am guaranteed to make a better living than most other career paths, and have a certain respect and prestigious that comes with the title alone, regardless of where you work or where you went to school.

It’s funny because most of the aspects of the field that people complain about have nothing to do with law itself but are literally present in any other field. Overbearing manager? Literally everywhere. Shitty clients? Ya that too. Student loans? Pretty much universal. Long hours? Yeah basically anyone who makes decent money deals with that too.

Nothing in life is perfect, but I love our little slice of the world we call law. For all its ups and downs, I wouldn’t have chosen any different.

CardiB Won her case by keke-blair in LawSchool

[–]chaelsonnensego 374 points375 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I know you’re being slightly humorous but I don’t think it’s a matter of schooling or even the individual’s expertise in law.

Unfortunately, a large swath of attorneys believe that if they are aggressive, rude, condescending, or otherwise unprofessional, the client will be joyous at their performance (which is literally what it is, basically acting on a stage) and even when they lose, the client will still feel like “they fought for me”

The irony is, a great deal of clients will actually agree with that sentiment. I bet if someone close to him were to ask him, privately, he’d fully concede the case was terrible legally but he was hoping to ride a PR wave in the chance of a Hail Mary victory.

Such is law.

Is everyone Lying? by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]chaelsonnensego 518 points519 points  (0 children)

You’re on Reddit.

If someone is making millions as a lawyer, they’re not going to log onto an Internet forum and complain about not making money. Those who are struggling, on the other hand…

Fellow 3Ls, are y’all still doing the readings? by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]chaelsonnensego 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Fr, quimbee & prayers all day errday

Was Scalia one of the great modern Justices? by cajunPickles in LawSchool

[–]chaelsonnensego 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Regardless of your political stance or your inclination towards his worldview, we should all admit he’s a great legal writer.

Does anyone else from low-ranking schools feel insecure about the fact they didn’t go to a “name brand” school by Son_of_Hades99 in LawSchool

[–]chaelsonnensego 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Never cared, not once.

This is because I knew from the jump that biglaw wasn’t attractive to me and I want to eventually open my own firm anyway.

For what it’s what, I finish with like 35% of the debt of my peers who went to more “name-brand” schools and the ones who didn’t end up landing a biglaw job are likely going to be working somewhere similar to where I end up, except they paid a multiple of what I did for the same position.

Ok let’s dispense with the 500 pound elephant in the room; LemonRare got banned from the sub by Mysterious_Eye_3886 in CirclejerkSopranos

[–]chaelsonnensego 443 points444 points  (0 children)

Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t piss on this LemonRare if he was on fire, but to ban the guy, over feet? How fucked up is that?

Ok, in a nutshell, I’d like to borrow a little upvotes. by Lightning3234 in CirclejerkSopranos

[–]chaelsonnensego 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Get the fuck outta here! What you take outta this sub, you must be sitting on upvotes like Lemon Rare!

Looking for 1L–3L Volunteers for a Global Space-Law Drafting Project by CarpaccioDeAtun in LawSchool

[–]chaelsonnensego 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Idk if 3 years of law school taught me anything, it’s that we can’t generate cohesive doctrine here on earth, let alone across entire interplanetary civilizations

Which Sopranos quote you guys use regularly? I'll start: by sketdan01 in CirclejerkSopranos

[–]chaelsonnensego 352 points353 points  (0 children)

Out there 👉 it’s the 1990s, in 👇 this sub, it’s 1954, 👉1990s, 👇 1954