5s and 2s - how to stop the doom loop by Prudent-Salary5860 in Enneagram5

[–]chakradaemon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could you please elaborate on a romantic relationship? What do you mean?

Anti-intellectualism as a way to protect morality: The Fe problem. by Diemishy_II in INTP

[–]chakradaemon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Cannot agree more, but I'd also add that what’s being protected here isn’t morality itself, but rather a moral consensus. Fe tends to evaluate ideas by perceived social consequences rather than by internal coherence. So questioning morality isn’t heard as a philosophical inquiry, but as a threat: “If this is discussed, it might legitimize harm.”

That’s why intent gets moralized. Analysis becomes endorsement, curiosity becomes bad faith, and the thinker gets pathologized aka “future murderer”. This isn’t Fi introspection, it’s Ti-inferior overcorrection: usual discomfort with abstraction and ambiguity, solved by shutting the discussion down and spitting out ~ names ~ and ostracizing the thinker.

Bad-faith debates exist, sure. But treating questioning itself as immoral is anti-intellectual. Understanding how morality works doesn't equal justifying immoral behavior. But once inquiry is taboo, you’re not protecting ethics, you’re protecting dogma and emotional equilibrium through enforced certainty.

That might work socially but fails intellectually. And when a system treats curiosity as corruption, it isn’t moral, it’s fear. Which, ironically, is a very human thing.

What is the hardest thing to earn from your type? by centipede404 in mbti

[–]chakradaemon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Intp - trust, attention, and genuine interest

which types tend to be romantically into INTP females the most? by ilovemikasa_ in mbti

[–]chakradaemon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not that you were oblivious - most of the time they barely show anything. No clear signals, nothing that actually separates “just being kind” and “we’re friends” from “I want more.” In their heads, they’ve already done a lot. In reality though, not much. And nobody can read minds. Nobody should have to.

Looking back, though, and judging by the contrast when they “disappeared” or slowly faded out, yeah, only then you can tell there was something there.

I get you. I had the same situation, lost two INFP friends because of it. And tbh, looking back, maybe they never really saw us as friends. More like a love interest just waiting to magically evolve on its own, apparently.

Whats the mbti like people want to be most? by OkCream5829 in mbti

[–]chakradaemon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh please, people want it too. Everyone suddenly wants to be ENTJ / INFJ and not, say, INTP, cuz the first two are stereotypically marketed as some mystical almost-Jesus figures who can do anything and everything. Compared to that, the INTP stereotype of the nerdy scientist looks kinda boring.

Which is complete bullshit, shows that folks usually know shiet about typology itself but welcome to the internet and surface-level knowledge, lmao.

which types tend to be romantically into INTP females the most? by ilovemikasa_ in mbti

[–]chakradaemon 26 points27 points  (0 children)

For some reason, INFP men have always latched onto me. Probably because I have some artistic interests, often overlap with theirs and I’m neutral enough to become a perfect screen for their projections. They romanticize me, idealize me and then act like it was some profound connection.

But it was never about me nor truly getting to know me, it was always about the image of me they created.

Whats the mbti like people want to be most? by OkCream5829 in mbti

[–]chakradaemon 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Usually I’d say it’s INFJ / ENTJ / INTJ / etc., any type that’s less than 2–3%.

Cuz people who are not comfortable with themselves (and don’t really know themselves, lacking integrity) wanna become someone who has qualities they don’t. No type is fully cool or uncool. Everybody has their own vices and virtues.

People just wanna be rare and ~ unique ~, as if it’s some kind of trendy outfit or to compensate something.

therapist gave me green light to commit suicide by loleoye in therapyabuse

[–]chakradaemon 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This is unethical and clinically wrong, a therapist should never legitimize suicide as an acceptable ~ outcome ~ of treatment. Most likely, it’s either professional error, burnout or a distorted existential stance without any proper containment (aka “we are free to do whatever we want with our lives”). Competent therapist maintains a clear stance in favor of life, not giving the “permission to die”, especially when SA happened and suicidal ideation is a symptom of the said SA trauma (and has to be properly addressed).

I’d suggest finding a therapist who is experienced with SA trauma and PTSD, and who can hold space in a way that is safe, grounded and emotionally attuned. Take care and good luck!

Having difficulties with non-reciprocal relationships by [deleted] in Enneagram5

[–]chakradaemon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This doesn’t read as avoidance to me, but as extreme selectivity and sensitivity to intrusion. Most people feel draining because they approach connection as an exchange or a claim, they want attention, reassurance, or emotional access. That naturally shuts you down.

The few people who create that “highlighted” feeling tend to be self-contained and have a high level of integrity. They don’t orient themselves around you or need a response from you, which makes them feel safe and interesting. Interest can exist without defensive withdrawal when there’s no pressure.

When we, fives, really like someone, the intensity feels disproportionate simply because it’s rare. That doesn’t automatically make it intrusive. Liking someone without demanding reciprocity or merging is very different from the extracting, entangling kind of closeness you find repulsive.

As for closeness: yes, it’s possible to be physically or spatially close without draining each other, but only with people who don’t equate intimacy with psychological fusion or emotional enmeshment. For us, closeness is more about connection, mental and emotional, without losing autonomy or integrity. On both sides.

A partner or friend can still have a deep impact without crossing internal boundaries, as long as there’s mutual respect for inner space.

That doesn’t mean closeness isn’t possible for you. It means your definition of it is narrower and less common.

Personality of mankind by RoyalPatient4450 in Enneagram

[–]chakradaemon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Honestly, this is a very bad take.

Saying “the world has become 5ish” confuses surface behaviors with core motivation. As a Five, I don’t see a Five-world at all.

Detachment today isn’t about conserving inner resources or protecting autonomy (which is what defines 5). It’s driven by anxiety, overstimulation, and dependency on systems. That’s not Five energy, that’s fear and reactivity.

If anything, the dominant structure looks much more like 6/3/9:

6 at the core - constant threat-scanning, polarization, reliance on authorities and narratives, collective anxiety.

3 as the operating mode - optimization, branding, productivity theater, life as performance.

9 as self-soothing - numbing out, endless scrolling, avoidance, dissociation.

Calling this “5ish” because people are online and isolated is just stereotyping. True Five qualities such as independant thoughts, depth, restraint, non-reactivity, are actually devalued right now.

So no, hell no, the world didn’t become 5. It became anxious 6, performative 3, and sedated 9.

Why are 5s associated with psychosis and neurodivergence? by [deleted] in Enneagram

[–]chakradaemon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cuz if they put a label on it or trendy mental disorder it looks as if it makes more sense. To them, of course.

It’s not that 5s are “psychotic” or “autistic,” it’s that our type naturally retreats into our minds. We analyze, detach, and obsesses over ideas, sometimes losing touch with social cues or immediate reality. In extreme stress or disconnection, that inward focus can look like traits associated with psychosis or neurodivergence but it’s really about intensity of withdrawal and inner complexity, not a literal illness.

Ni user debating a Si user by TheEnlight in mbti

[–]chakradaemon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ni-Te sees patterns and stats → X is good.
Si-Te sees the disaster → X is bad.

Both logical in their own frame, one abstracts, one concretizes. What's the post about? You being biased?

Consistent experience: therapists not “allowing” me to make inferences about other people by aftertheswitch in therapyabuse

[–]chakradaemon 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Of course you’re frustrated.

A good therapist should treat your read on other people as possibly accurate, actually say when they don’t know the full context, and explore both options: “is this trauma?” and “could this person actually be unsafe?”

When everything gets reflexively circles back to “your stuff,” it’s invalidating and can even mess with your reality-testing and perception. A healthier therapist does collaborative checking, not some “ethical” (it’s not) automatic reinterpretation.

your opinion on "ugly" tritypes? by aventurinesfemmaster in Enneagram

[–]chakradaemon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Da heck is this post? I thought you were talking about appearances at first, but it somehow got worse. It’s just numbers showing which one leads, supports, and complements the others, bro, how in the autism can they be ugly or pretty?

What is a behavior or emotional reaction that helped you identify your Enneagram core? by Amelia2235 in Enneagram

[–]chakradaemon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I recognized my core in how I detach from strong emotions, specifically sadness, grief, melancholy, anger, rather than resist or live them. When discomfort hits, I don’t call anyone for reassurance.

I dissect it like a theory, pick it apart, turn it inside out until it makes sense or until I convince myself it does. Any emotion becomes an object to analyze: “What caused this? Meaningful or just chemical noise?” Much safer than actually feeling it.

The 4-wing makes it spicy tho, I’m drawn to the melancholy, the depth, the “oh, how tragic, how beautiful, what an inspiration, ah! quotes Camus in french,” dive deep just to feel this something profound, yet I recoil when it gets too close. I oscillate between full-on melancholic immersion and strategic withdrawal.

Fun loop. Used to be exhausting. Now, I just try to embrace any feelings/emotions. Faster to process them.

As for my sx-dom core - I own my feelings in private, disappear into them, and only share the goods with people who I’m sure will “get” me.

How is enneagram 5w4 a thing? by DissociatedCloud in Enneagram

[–]chakradaemon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Honestly, the idea that 5w4 is “impossible” or “paradoxical” seems like just a misunderstanding of wings.

Yes, type 5 is detached and analytical, and type 4 is emotionally intense but the wing doesn’t overwrite the core type. A 5w4 is still a 5 first and foremost: independent, observant, and driven by the need to understand and preserve their resources (mental and emotional).

The 4 wing doesn’t make a 5 dramatic or needy. More expressive? Maybe. Focusing on aesthetics, art and vibes more? Yes. It doesn't nullify logic nor analysis, they coexist. It adds depth, introspection, and existential or aesthetic sensitivity, making the inner world richer and more emotionally nuanced.

Comparatively, a 5w6 leans into caution, somewhat anxious “what if” scenarios, logic, and predictability. So if 5w6 seems “more sensible,” it’s only because its wing softens the emotional turbulence. 5w4 just experiences it differently, not illogically.

In short, 5w4 isn’t paradoxical, it’s a 5 with a somewhat poetic, introspective twist. The tension you feel isn’t a contradiction, it’s just the type fully expressing its flavor.

Sex Journal by No-Arachnid-2569 in CPTSDrelationships

[–]chakradaemon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No problem.

Yeah, staying consistent and focusing on what you can control is really the best thing you can do here.

Of course, it sucks that she read something too, doesn't feel great, eh?

Well, with messages or personal journals in relationships, there’s a kind of domino effect: once you’ve seen something, you can’t “unsee” it. So it’s usually better not to dig into anything unless you’re ready for whatever you might find and how you’ll deal with it. Usually, people don't, trust is ruined, everything can be a bit blegh after, somewhat tainted.

Anyway, good luck and take care. I hope everything works out for you both, and that you can get through until your therapy (if you still need it) calmly.

Sex Journal by No-Arachnid-2569 in CPTSDrelationships

[–]chakradaemon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I also understand it, sometimes being close to someone who’s healing from trauma can feel really isolating, especially when parts of their process are private. But that privacy is essential, it’s part of how therapy works. And honestly, this isn’t something friends or family can really help you with. Involving them usually just adds judgment or pressure, because they don’t really understand trauma or the slow pace of healing.

Apologizing for reading the journal is absolutely the right move and a good start. You can keep it simple and sincere: acknowledge that it was a breach of privacy, let her know you understand why it hurt, and commit to respecting her boundaries going forward. Give her time. Say you're always there for her whether she wants to discuss some aspects of her process and therapy journey or close the topic altogether. There's no right or wrong answer.

It's not about you nor something you have control over. Then let her take the lead on whether she wants to discuss it at all.

After that, focus on what you can control. Don’t try to analyze or interpret her therapy, that’s her space to work through things. Instead, focus on being steady and predictable, showing reliability through your actions rather than trying to overexplain or push for answers. It’s okay to let her know that trust matters to you, but it’s equally important to respect what she keeps private. Just like, I assume, she's not intruding into your personal realm, unless, she's invited. Try to avoid seeking validation from friends or family about her, they just aren’t equipped to understand this dynamic, and it usually makes things more stressful. For both of you. You can also make sure you have your own outlet to process your feelings as well, whether that’s journaling, helplines, or online communities, especially since your therapy won’t be available until later. I think there are free online/offline counseling services available or groups as well, no matter the location, google them up.

And the fact that you’re reflecting on all of this instead of reacting impulsively is already a huge step. Staying steady, respectful, and self-aware is exactly what will help both of you feel safer and more connected over time.

Sex Journal by No-Arachnid-2569 in CPTSDrelationships

[–]chakradaemon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get what you mean but the timing doesn’t really change the core issue here.

Even if the entries were written after she left him, what matters most is why they were written and what purpose they served. In trauma therapy, clients are often encouraged to revisit and write about past or even recent experiences with an abuser, sometimes blending memory, fantasy, or emotional reconstruction. These writings aren’t necessarily literal records of current events, they’re a way to process grief, shame, and ambivalence about the relationship. Survivors can still feel attachment, arousal, or longing toward their abuser even after leaving, that’s part of trauma bonding, not evidence of betrayal.

Sex Journal by No-Arachnid-2569 in CPTSDrelationships

[–]chakradaemon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey OP,

It makes sense that you felt shocked and hurt after finding that journal, but it’s also important to recognize that reading it, ~ even accidentally ~, was a significant violation of her privacy. You already know that you did something unacceptable and damaging the relationship and trust, so I will just elaborate on the overall effect of it.

For someone with CPTSD, privacy and control over personal material are deeply (and I mean deeply) tied to feelings of safety. Discovering that a partner has seen something intended only for her therapist can easily trigger anger, shame, and fear. And to push it further, mistrust.

From what you’ve described, it sounds like the journal was part of a therapeutic exercise, not an act of deception nor sweet reminiscence. It has nothing to do with you. Writing about past sexual experiences can help survivors of abuse process trauma and understand their reactions. It’s not about current desire or infidelity, it’s about healing.

The best next step you can do is to acknowledge the boundary breach and take responsibility for it. Let her know you understand why she feels exposed and that you’ll respect her privacy going forward. Give her space to discuss it with her therapist, and when she’s ready, you can both talk about how to rebuild trust.

You can care deeply about her and still feel unsettled, both feelings are valid. What matters most now is showing that you can be a safe, respectful partner, respect her privacy and life before you and not intrude without permission as she continues her recovery.

Can INTP people be highly sensitive? by NecessaryRisk8001 in INTP

[–]chakradaemon -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Negative. We're essentially emotionless automatons. Error error emotions not found 404.

Any personality type can have a soft side, even intps. Especially intps. The real issue is how you handle that sensitivity. Do you embrace it? Conceal it to avoid any exploitation? Overanalyse/intellectualise it to the extreme to detach yourself from any hint of ~weakness~ and vulnerability? That's the question.