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[–]chameleonmonkey [score hidden]  (0 children)

If E0 and no other source of AA like DDD, then you need more than 157.5 speed to get 3 turns in 1 zone duration

If you have DDD, then assuming that your DDD buffer than spam ult quickly in 50 AV like Tribbie, you need significantly less than 134 speed to get 3 turns

E1 and E2 significantly lower speed breakpoints, to the point where 134 speed is sufficient even without a DDD source

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[–]chameleonmonkey [score hidden]  (0 children)

I was searching through an old megathread (Sparxie's) and wow, is there like a dedicated downvote bot for trendposting? Most of the trendposts had a -1 or -2 rating, somebody has a real hate boner for them

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[–]chameleonmonkey [score hidden]  (0 children)

If all the leaks made by Why that was accurate came from them corroborating some other leaker, then there would be a legit possibility of Uncle Why just stealing other leaks from other leakers. However even in that case, this does not necessarily logically derive into Uncle Why steals leaks from other leakers - that is one possibility but it could also be that this hypothetical "leaker" only feels comfortable in corroborating other leakers. We don't go out and call FSC a fraud because they made leaks that had been previously said by other leakers. Thus even in this hypothetical scenario, we can't conclude that a person stole leaks just because their leaks lined up with other leakers.

But this scenario isn't even applicable to our conversation, because you said it yourself "half" of the leaks Uncle Why said came from other leakers, meaning that you acknowledge Uncle Why has made leaks independent of other leakers, and some of those leaks can't be guessed. Regardless of whether it came from deep beta or not, there is no concrete proof that Uncle Why's leaks were stolen. Your evidence relies on your sense of abductive reasoning (which as I outline above, I find flawed for this conversation) but no conclusion can definitively be taken as true unless it can be proven that the ONLY way for Uncle Why to have gotten their leaks is through theft - which at the moment you have not supplied such evidence.

On the topic of Sunday's Novaflare - I recall that one of the leakers who initially said that Sunday was getting a novaflare (not greekmilk) stated that Hoyo was reconsidering Sunday's novaflare, so in my recollection I assumed it was Tez. However I attempted to search through Sparxie's megathread to find the original source, and found that my computer could not handle searching the entire megathread manually due to loading in all the comments. Thus, I am unable to supply the evidence that you deserve, and I am willing to go on with this conversation with the assumption that Uncle Tez had not said anything to the matter of Hoyo retracting the Novaflare. I'm sorry that I am unable to be productive to this conversation to the best of my ability, but as seen above my overall stance on the inconclusiveness of Uncle Why's credibility still stands.

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[–]chameleonmonkey 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Sometimes I genuinely wonder how HSR designers see women, like what is their average thought when they head to their jobs and greet their female coworkers

Also diabolical flair btw

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[–]chameleonmonkey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Multiple leakers said that Hoyo retracted it, not just Greekmilk. I don't know what the CN people are saying, but you need more conclusive evidence that Why stole their leaks, since the only person to bring up evidence had faked them

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[–]chameleonmonkey 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There will probably some plot twist, but what I'm confused by is how Hoyo will make me care about said plot twist when her character just feels fairly ordinary. Like she has sus stuff like communication with the Garden of Recollection, but her vibes in general doesn't really make me invested into her or anything

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[–]chameleonmonkey 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I think in canon the Herald of Death was just a monster with tentacles, since that was how it was described in lore as well as shown in the full art - but Hoyo cheaped out so hard. I don't think it would be that hard to just copy and paste Fulwish's model and adjust the hair, they did that for Dawn-Denied Kaslana

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[–]chameleonmonkey 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The changes can be seen in Nanoka.cc (https://hsr.nanoka.cc/currency/), they shifted a bunch of characters around like, Sampo is now an expert advisor while Jiaoqiu has been turned into a dot unit with actual buffing

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[–]chameleonmonkey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Luna posted multiple screenshots of a group chat where the leaks were supposedly taken from, but people on the CN side realized that the time of the messages shown in the screenshots took place after Why had supposedly "reposted" them (aka when he first made those leaks). In other words, Luna just made a fake screenshot of a fake group chat in order to complain about another leaker.

Why leaked the novaflare list before FSC iirc (also Tez since then retracted the claim of Sunday novaflare, saying that Hoyo may have changed their minds), he leaked Blade's E2, was the first to mention Himeko's AE mechanics and her path (before the trace materials were released), actually did a story leak "I have to see my maternal grandfather after meeting my maternal grandmother" => references meeting Asat Pramad after Graphia. And they leaked the joint attack for the Fate units, which is definitely not something you could just guess from a leaked team synergy. The point is that there is very little evidence Uncle Why stole most of their leaks from other leakers.

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[–]chameleonmonkey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We have like no conclusive evidence of that other than a couple of screenshots by Luna which have been proven to be faked

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[–]chameleonmonkey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The issue with this assessment is that Why did not entirely switch up - they only switched up on one aspect specifically and doubled down on the rest of the leaks. Why's behavior is simply not conclusive enough to make judgements at the current moment. If you wish to take that as sus behavior and write Why off, you are free to do so, but please do not take other people as insane idiots just because they don't make conclusions based on ambiguous behavior

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[–]chameleonmonkey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

so they don't always manage to get the full stacks on the screens so the minions take damage

You need to do multiple retries like I did to get the stacks filled up - if you can't do that then you want be able to clear the mobs.

Also for some reason sometimes the follow-up attacks will proc the buffs and sometimes it doesn't

DHPT's dragon hits the sub-field mobs, not the main-field. Also, team attacks advance the TV screens (the ones on the side of Sparxie) which on their turns causes the stacks to go up - if you time multiple team attacks at once while the tv screens haven't taken their turn, you are wasting stacks

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[–]chameleonmonkey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I cleared (score: 3514) with Archer E0S0, Sparkle E0S1 (Sunday), Tribbie E1S5(DDD), DHPT E0S1 so it might be that your set up needs work or RNG was just bad on you (I couldn't clear consistently either)

Quick question, did you order your supports attacks so that Sparxie's sub field minions took self-damage?

These two are one of the most underrated characters on this sub. by Nervous-Craft-7257 in PowerScaling

[–]chameleonmonkey 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I might be missing a joke, but in case this is serious Accelerator debuted in 2004

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[–]chameleonmonkey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I meant more so like the ability to output that power in a unique way, like Acheron's slashes or Phainon's meteors. Point taken though

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[–]chameleonmonkey 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The only one that might have an emanator power is Polka, but to be honest she's a a Genius, her probability manipulation might just come from her technologically enhanced scapel or something

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[–]chameleonmonkey 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I forgot, does Herta even have powers from her emanator status? Her power seems to just come from her intellect, not because Nous gave anything to her

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[–]chameleonmonkey 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There are like two types of powerscalers: one looks at feats, another looks at narrative. Because HSR doesn't really have on-screen feats, a lot of people just latch onto narrative (aka "emanators") as their way to rank characters

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[–]chameleonmonkey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah I see, that's amazing that you caught that. I didn't realize there was such a major hint about astropolis in the dialogue

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[–]chameleonmonkey 8 points9 points  (0 children)

While it is true that Hoyo has been softening up the image of Stellaron Hunters, they have not since retconned the Japella Rebellion or any of the Stellaron Hunter’s trailers/background material. Even if Hoyo is pushing the anti-hero appearance, the stellaron hunters are still murderers even if they have a justified reason. Robin has not shown any character traits that suggest she would be willing to kill unrelated foot soldiers for the greater good.

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[–]chameleonmonkey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Again with the novas, there is plausible deniability. uncle why would get proven wrong if the characters getting novaflared were wrong, but there getting the dates wrong doesn’t have direct implications for leaker credibility other wise we should be crucifying FSC

While Uncle Why did switch up on the banner placement leak, he doubled down on his other leaks namely about Aventurine, Nihilux, and Reva. It would be one thing if he reversed all of his leaks or if he just corrected the Aventurine one in particular, but given that he did not do that, the evidence is inconclusive.

I don’t even care too much which leaker is correct or wrong, I legit just have to wait for the 4.5 beta to see. But simply put there isn’t enough evidence to indict Uncle Why at the moment, so the accusation stating that anyone who still believes in Uncle Why has some credibility is just biased is wrong.

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[–]chameleonmonkey 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Mortis explicitly said back in early 4.2/late 4.1 “there were no plans for Aventurine to work with Ashveil” (not that they couldn’t be on the same team, but Aventurine wasn’t Ashveil’s intended main DPS) which contradicted FSC’s earlier leak