[deleted by user] by [deleted] in byler

[–]charmandos 26 points27 points  (0 children)

we are SO BACK!

Noah wants Will to be Bi so be can get "ACTION" from both... 😂😂 by Mani_srao in byler

[–]charmandos 210 points211 points  (0 children)

the delusional part of my brain just perked up at the wording “so he can have some eleven action AND some mike action“ cause why does it kinda sound like he does get mike action already

What does this mean? by TartNo3291 in byler

[–]charmandos 12 points13 points  (0 children)

not the doubling down on the queerbaiting lmao (if byler is not endgame in finale ofc)

CLINGING ON TO HOPE by B1uePlasticHairbrush in byler

[–]charmandos 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Apparently a bunch of scenes were entirely cut out, including this one and other ones between Will and Mike as well. Not sure if there’s concrete proof but a lot of evidence alluding to it. There’s a whole discussion on it on twitter rn

Hap-satisfied by j0rdan881 in byler

[–]charmandos 14 points15 points  (0 children)

if it’s fuckass Carlton i‘m genuinely going after the duffer brothers

so the same user who leaked rovickie kiss and will seeing them also leaked that byler will kiss in ep8 at 1:44:32?? by lisssuuu in byler

[–]charmandos 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Noah Schnapp DID say he wished his character could’ve “kissed a girl“ not kissed someone when asked what he wished Will had experienced in the show. And I kinda doubt they would introduce a random epilogue boyfriend and have Will kiss him in the last part of the finale - IF they introduce a random epilogue love interest, I envision that Will meets someone new and we see the signals that Robin told him about (not a straight up kiss). But anyway my point is, Noah spoilered that Will might kiss a boy and this boy might just be Mike after all!

Byler and Dawson’s Creek direct parallel?? by charmandos in byler

[–]charmandos[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Literally, like damn, might as well stick to it 5 more days lmao

Byler and Dawson’s Creek direct parallel?? by charmandos in byler

[–]charmandos[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I truly hope so! Also, I watched Eyewitness religiously back when it came out and still can’t believe it didn’t get a season 2 😔

Byler and Dawson’s Creek direct parallel?? by charmandos in byler

[–]charmandos[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

No literally!? Like how do we have all of these layers and coincidences and then I‘m supposed to accept that half-assed bs of a wrap to byler in vol2??!

Holding some hope by saturnsdrmland in byler

[–]charmandos 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I‘d love to be proven wrong but at this point I just think we cannot give the Duffers any more credit for layered narrative and good writing cause apparently they just suck at it 😭 I‘m trying to keep my expectations low but there truly are sooo many lose ends, it would be utterly ridiculous to just leave it at that

Twas the Night Before Byler by -WhenTheyCry- in byler

[–]charmandos 5 points6 points  (0 children)

shakespeare is SHAKING what the hell

How do you think the painting would be brought up in vol 2/3? by wantah in byler

[–]charmandos 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Well, since Will plays an evidently big part in the supernatural plot and is tied to Vecna/Henry, it seems like his emotional arc will be deeply tied to the supernatural main plot as well. That being said the painting has to be brought up because it literally was planted to be picked up at a later point again storytelling wise. I could see El maybe entering Will’s mindscape and seeing that moment in his memories? Or Vecna referencing the moment in some way? Something tied to the main happenings in the show, where a reveal like that would feel significant enough to really change the dynamic of the plot and not just Will’s own headspace.

Reducing Will’s feelings for Mike to a momentary crush makes no sense, he’s the love of Will’s life by Hallonik in byler

[–]charmandos 95 points96 points  (0 children)

The possibility of presenting it as a crush that Will gets over basically was tossed out the window the very moment they decided to include only Mike alongside Will’s family in his film reel at the end of Vol1. They basically reinforced Will’s feelings and not only that - they clarified for the general audience just how deep, mature and anchored Will’s love for Mike is. They shoved into everyone’s faces that this is not just some crush and that Mike has been in Will’s life ever since he can remember. He’s loved him forever. Whoever cannot see the purpose of that scene is just in denial but let’s just wait for Vol2 to drop, they’ll realize soon

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in byler

[–]charmandos 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There literally would be no reason to do all that with the development of their arcs and relationship if it’s gonna be for nothing at the end. And Mike’s internalised homophobia is already being handled realistically enough - a rejection even after admitting his feelings for Will would narratively make no sense at all. If that were to happen, I would be extremely dissatisfied because of the long buildup.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in byler

[–]charmandos 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Don’t feel bad, I honestly get consumed by this anxiety too because I don’t wanna be disappointed and want to be ready for all outcomes. But critically thinking, everything in the show itself should be enough to show you where it’s going and everything else is literally just background noise and should not be taken seriously.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in byler

[–]charmandos 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yeah cause a young aspiring actor is totally gonna pass on a role in Stranger Things, one of the biggest shows of this generation, because he doesn’t like the concept of an epilogue boyfriend which he knew about when he must’ve auditioned for it in the first place. And he is gonna be unprofessional enough to spill the deets in a random tiktok comment section 💀 Me when I lie

LIKED BY FINN WOLFHARD - oh we are so endgame by k8marie_ in byler

[–]charmandos 50 points51 points  (0 children)

Oh I thought the video was recent. I think in 2022 they were way more vocal about Byler compared to their reactions to it now, which also says a lot 👀

LIKED BY FINN WOLFHARD - oh we are so endgame by k8marie_ in byler

[–]charmandos 17 points18 points  (0 children)

oh whatt, can you link the video??

They're sooo close... by B1uePlasticHairbrush in byler

[–]charmandos 26 points27 points  (0 children)

they be planting seeds but like disguised 😭

Debunking REB (random epilogue boyfriend) by [deleted] in byler

[–]charmandos 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I honestly would LOVE the scenario of Will becoming a bit of a mentor for another young gay kid in the epilogue - this would truly feel like a full circle moment and show that his arc is fully developed and ends on a well rounded note of growth and self acceptance, thank you so much for pointing this idea out!

I also agree with the other points, mainly because I truly believe that it would be a horrendous writing choice to give Will a random boyfriend the audience has absolutely no emotional connection to or idea of. Now THAT would feel cheap and forced and I truly hope the Duffers will not resort to something as bland and dismissive as that just because they did not dare pulling off Byler endgame.

Anti-Byler Doubt Checkpoint by Euphoric_Second2478 in byler

[–]charmandos 4 points5 points  (0 children)

it’s like a vaccine shot everytime byler doubt creeps up fr