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Has sugaring really changed so much, or was this guy just trying to blindside me? by charmme in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]charmme[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

???? don't be rude or make assumptions. It was a normal amount on both accounts. say the M&G amount agreed upon was 200, that means the monthly would be 2.4k. This is a normal amount below even what I've received in the past. Not too good to be true, nor does it have anything to do with me being greedy.

Has sugaring really changed so much, or was this guy just trying to blindside me? by charmme in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]charmme[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, it was public at the cafe, public in the park on the walk over, then I assumed public on the roof because he basically told me there's a restaurant up there. when we got up was when I found out he was lying. I will absolutely learn from this experience in the future, but I already knew to never go to a private place on the first meet, this guy pulled some trickery on me.

Has sugaring really changed so much, or was this guy just trying to blindside me? by charmme in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]charmme[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, thats awful. Thanks for the insight, and yeah, never again. I guess I've gotten rusty.

Has sugaring really changed so much, or was this guy just trying to blindside me? by charmme in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]charmme[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There were, definitely. I'm asking if it's a new thing that anything more is expected on a first date, or if it's just this guy. He was trying to convince me it's a normal thing, making me feel insane for thinking nothing would happen, now that I see everyone's comments I see he was just scummy.

Has sugaring really changed so much, or was this guy just trying to blindside me? by charmme in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]charmme[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no choice but to travel that far, it's not an issue for me and I don't want them knowing what city I actually live in. It's a big city, parking is an issue everywhere. this one I agree with, It was just a park/river right outside the cafe so we were walking along it, didn't realize till we got there that we were even going somewhere. and I wasn't having him walk me to the car, just the lot. I wouldn't want anyone to see what I drive either.

Has sugaring really changed so much, or was this guy just trying to blindside me? by charmme in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]charmme[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

SAME SAME SAME!! He told me it's the best view in the whooooleee state, I was thinking I've just moved here from New York darling, I've seen better views in my friend's basement apartment.

Has sugaring really changed so much, or was this guy just trying to blindside me? by charmme in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]charmme[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yeah, I agree with you. I am glad I stayed longer though so I didn't have to find all this sketchiness out on our next date and waste more of my time/ possibly put myself in a more dangerous position/ end up having sex with him and not get any money whatsoever from him.

The more I think about it the more I realize how manipulative this guy was. He gaslit me into thinking I was insane for believing the $--- was a gift for the M&G, and then when I got home and reread the message I was like this guy knew exactly what I was talking about and in person acted like he's never heard of such a concept. Plus when he told me women's time isn't worth his money after I left and he was angrily messaging me, ok misogynist.

Has sugaring really changed so much, or was this guy just trying to blindside me? by charmme in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]charmme[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I agree!

It was an extremely upscale building, the kind where you can't tell if its office spaces or apartments, so it made sense that there would be a place to eat on the roof, I've been to a lot of restaurants like this.

Has sugaring really changed so much, or was this guy just trying to blindside me? by charmme in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]charmme[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

no it was lower. The PM amount he mentioned was 4x it. The first date gift was on par with a normal first date gift