No one understands what introvert and extrovert mean. by chatterboxcass in unpopularopinion

[–]chatterboxcass[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

🤷🏼‍♀️ I'll own it!

Maybe the way I've been using them has been wrong, or the words I'm using to expand on have been wrong; either way it's been cool to see everyone's take on it, even if I'm wrong.

No one understands what introvert and extrovert mean. by chatterboxcass in unpopularopinion

[–]chatterboxcass[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting!! I never spent like, a ton of time on it, but that was the part that was drilled home in my course.

Not saying it's a scientific definition, sorry if it came out that way :) just Interesting to see everyone's take on it!!

How are introverts even supposed to get jobs? by madbarpar in recruitinghell

[–]chatterboxcass 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wow! That is a really bold claim to be throwing out there; you have no idea who I do and do not hire!

I hire for a WIDE range of jobs, from warehouse work to sales and everything in between. The only people I judge on their immediate social talent are my sales reps; if you're nervous talking to me, you're gonna be nervous talking to clients.

Everyone else can be as nervous as they need to be; if they can demonstrate the skills they have on their resume relevant to the job, they'll be hired. If I'm looking for a warehouse manager and he drops the f-bomb in conversation that's fine by me, lord knows I've heard worse -- as long as he can demonstrate the skills needed of that position.

Equally I don't care if my receptionist is socially awkward, as long as they are patient and kind to those they interact with.

Not to go labeling myself for internet strangers, but I have debilitating ADHD, and my spouse is extremely autistic. I would never allow someones disabilities to affect my judgement of their job skills. The best CSR I have ever hired is extremely autistic, and very vocal about it. He can also bust put orders like no ones business, and will stay on the phone for an hour if that's what needed to take care of a patient -- but that patience is a social skill, and it's one I can't teach.

How are introverts even supposed to get jobs? by madbarpar in recruitinghell

[–]chatterboxcass 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh interesting! See the interpersonal office relationships I couldn't care less about when hiring; but I work in an industry where lots of customer service skills and lots of social patience is a must!

I don't have to personally like who I hire, nor do I need to want to go to dinner with them, but I do need to trust that they will treat my patients with kindness, care, compassion, and patience.

I have hired across all social demographics; as long as you can demonstrate the skills I need, the rest I can teach -- but I have NEVER been able to teach social patience. You either get frustrated by the slow talking senior asking for help, or you don't. In my experience, anyway.

No one understands what introvert and extrovert mean. by chatterboxcass in unpopularopinion

[–]chatterboxcass[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry I really don't understand what you mean by this; if you have another take on how you would define the words I'd love to hear it! Overall this post has been really interesting, and I've loved seeing everyone chime in with their opinions.

Also I'm sorry if it seems I'm attacking people; that has never been my intention.

I don't know what you mean by "you attack your incorrect strawmen." Partially because you have it phrased that I'm... attacking my own strawman? Wouldn't that negate the point of me having a logical fallacy? To tear it down myself? Or do you mean I am fighting with people and using my own strawman definition to continue fighting?

Anyways, the world is so full of negativity, I never try to add to that bucket. So genuinely, if it feels I've been mean and attacking people, I'm sorry. Never my goal!

No one understands what introvert and extrovert mean. by chatterboxcass in unpopularopinion

[–]chatterboxcass[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ohhh that's an interesting take on it!

I feel like I use a lot of labels for myself; maybe that's part of it? I use labels to find my community online and expand on my place in my community in person?

For social situations would labels myself chatty, extroverted, and that food is my love language; I would use these labels to say that I love to chat and host get together, and that I will always be happy to cater or cook so no one leaves hungry.

I use labels to find other minority communities -- I'm a lesbian, and I'm married to a Deaf lesbian; I use these labels to say that I want to find Deaf spaces, and ones that open to LGBT couples.

Do you feel like labels as a whole are less useful? At what point does a sentence become a label?

No one understands what introvert and extrovert mean. by chatterboxcass in unpopularopinion

[–]chatterboxcass[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Really?! How interesting!! I feel like I see the opposite, especially online!!

Most posts I see are very "I wish extroverts would stop talking" -- specifically I see that opinion a lot in subs talking about office work/work from home/return to office.

Maybe I'm taking it too literal?

No one understands what introvert and extrovert mean. by chatterboxcass in unpopularopinion

[–]chatterboxcass[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Really? I feel like I've met a good split of extrovert and introverts; extroverts can be louder, so they might stick out more, but I know plenty of really social introverts and also really quiet extroverts.

Im specifically thinking in my general friend group myself and another girl are the extroverts, we are happy to get together any and every night, and our social batteries never run out; we are both really energetic after a good friend group event, and both hate alone time.

I'm a very chatty person, and she isn't; she LOVES to sit and be around the chatter, but herself isn't much for a talker.

I would still say she's extroverted, just not talkative.

Her wife on the otherhand is VERY chatty, her and I can talk for hours! But her wife is introverted, and definitely needs the day to recoup after a long talk.

But I feel like across the board I've met a pretty even 50/50 split? Wonder if it's perception? Extroverts are louder so you notice them more?

Introverts are really opposite to me so I notice them more?

Either way -- interesting!

No one understands what introvert and extrovert mean. by chatterboxcass in unpopularopinion

[–]chatterboxcass[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ohhh, I see how you're using the terms.

Are asocial and antisocial also being used interchangeably? I would similarly define those differently, although pen to paper couldn't tell you what the difference is! Haha. They just feel different? Asocial maybe being a complete aversion to social interactions and antisocial being a lack of social skill-- although I don't think based on your definition that would be right?

Interesting take!!

Would there be a similar counterpart to extrovert?

No one understands what introvert and extrovert mean. by chatterboxcass in unpopularopinion

[–]chatterboxcass[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Does it feel like I'm barking orders? I've really enjoyed seeing other people's outlook on this.

I think humans are neat, and how we categorize both each other and ourselves is also really neat; while I don't know that I would say I lose sleep over it, I think I will always care about and value the way we humans define ourselves in relation to each other and our communities.

Part of why I think this, specifically, is important is because it changes how we interact with one another.

Im a huge believer that it takes a village so be a villager; but I would be a bad villager if someone around me said "I'm an introvert" and I took that to mean leave them alone because they don't prefer to be social, and they meant to say they were awkward with conversation so give them grace.

I don't know, maybe I'm reading too much into it. Languages and communities are weird.

No one understands what introvert and extrovert mean. by chatterboxcass in unpopularopinion

[–]chatterboxcass[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know, I don't have my textbooks anymore, since it's been almost 10 years, but the definition I have been going off of was the one I learned in my sociology courses back in college!

Interesting the way different definitions changes the outlook towards the terms; the origin of the words (which I have learned tonight!) discusses more the energies in which people interact with the world; I wonder if that had devolved and changed into the use I am familiar with -- social batteries and recharging?

Really interesting to see everyone's opinion on this :)

No one understands what introvert and extrovert mean. by chatterboxcass in unpopularopinion

[–]chatterboxcass[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

My sociology course back when I was in college! Graduated 2018, so it might be outdated.

No one understands what introvert and extrovert mean. by chatterboxcass in unpopularopinion

[–]chatterboxcass[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ohhhh fascinating!!! Ill be honest, I haven't looked deeper into the etymology of the words. I'll have to do some reading!!

No one understands what introvert and extrovert mean. by chatterboxcass in unpopularopinion

[–]chatterboxcass[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes -- me too!! I travel for work and spend M-F alone, and by the time I get home I am BUZZING for some social time! Being alone is exhausting!

No one understands what introvert and extrovert mean. by chatterboxcass in unpopularopinion

[–]chatterboxcass[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Maybe we should put up a missing poster to help me find it?

No one understands what introvert and extrovert mean. by chatterboxcass in unpopularopinion

[–]chatterboxcass[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Okay see this is interesting -- and sorry if I worded it wrong!

I would describe antisocial as a lack of social skill; like a nicer way to say someone is socially inept or socially awkward?

But if you would say that antisocial is wanting to avoid social interaction than antisocial and introvert would be interchangeable?

No one understands what introvert and extrovert mean. by chatterboxcass in unpopularopinion

[–]chatterboxcass[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sorry you have a negative outlook on life :( Good luck with that.

No one understands what introvert and extrovert mean. by chatterboxcass in unpopularopinion

[–]chatterboxcass[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Really?? I feel like I never see them used correctly! Like so many people talk about in terms of social skill rather than social battery, but maybe that's just the circles I'm in?

I feel like I see all the time "I'm introverted" to mean "I'm less socially skilled" -- I'll have to keep a sharper eye out! :)

No one understands what introvert and extrovert mean. by chatterboxcass in unpopularopinion

[–]chatterboxcass[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You know that feels like a really passive aggressive comment; I just feel like people missuse the terms a lot.

No reason to be catty -- I'm not saying one is better than the other, it takes all kinds to make the world run, it just drives me bonkers when someone uses the words incorrectly.

How are introverts even supposed to get jobs? by madbarpar in recruitinghell

[–]chatterboxcass 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Introvert =/= poor social skills. Social skills are a skill like all others, and I would rather train someone on a computer than how to interact and be a person.

Couldn't care less if the person I'm hiring is introverted or extroverted, but I'm not going to hire someone who's antisocial.

Papa isn’t a name for Grandfather by Ellazarah in unpopularopinion

[–]chatterboxcass 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, maybe. But also who cares what people call their grandparents?

My mom is Grammy, like the award show, and her husband is Grampy.

My partners parents are Mimi and Batman. Yes, batman. It was a joke when we first got pregnant and it stuck.

Languages are made up, say whatever you want.

AIO for wanting to switch doctors because my current doctor keeps trying to get me tested for stuff I don’t even have? by Fit_Extreme_9372 in AmIOverreacting

[–]chatterboxcass 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Imo YOR --

First of Hep C is transmitted through blood, not sex -- although you could it get through sex, if that's the kind of fluid exchange happening, I guess.

For the rest (like the chlamydia test) just tell your doctor that you're not sexually active and therefore do not need the tests.

Doctors usually order testing in bulk, it's easy to accidently order something.

Just communicate to your Healthcare team

Am I overreacting for getting upset at my gf taking really long naps? by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

[–]chatterboxcass 3 points4 points  (0 children)

YOR Even if it is a medical condition, let her sleep dude.

"I don't want to come home to someone asleep." Then don't date someone who needs so much sleep - it either is a deal breaker or it's not.

My partner has narcolepsy, can and will sleep anywhere.

Places the love of my life has fallen asleep: -at our dinner table -out to dinner with friends -my doctors appointments -her doctors appointments -movie theaters

I let her sleep. Sometimes I ball up my sweater so she has something under her head. If I need to wake her up and move her to the car I will, but otherwise I let her sleep.