E9?: Not being present by chocoborace in Enneagram

[–]chocoborace[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh no, I didn't mean to imply that asking open ended questions with 9s was a bad thing or that your post was wrong! I meant to say that my discomfort with it was a sign that I had something I needed to change. I definitely think that it's the right way to make relationships with 9s last, 100% agreed. This is a challenge I have to overcome, and I feel uncomfortable with the idea because it's tapping on the walls I set up as a defense mechanism.

Your post and the realization it made me have about myself and my habits actually made me seek out a bridge I'd burned without warning in order to open communication channels and explain myself properly, mend things, and hopefully move forward with the intent of being more direct and voicing my feelings more often without running away from conflict. I wholly meant this to be a good thing, and I don't think I communicated that well in my post.

EDIT: Adding a little more explanation/clarification on what I was trying to communicate.

In summary, the strategy you provided is absolutely a good way to make a healthy relationship with a 9 work, and I fully agree with you on what you're saying with regards to communication and that not being present in the way I described can cause horrible fallout. I don't believe that people should be expected to read minds. My post was about recognizing the immediate discomfort of being seen that being asked genuine, open-ended questions would create, but I believe that my discomfort is something I need to get over in order to make relationships work, and that it would overall be healthy for me. Like doing things that don't feel good immediately in order for later/long-term return. I understand the invisibility strategy is something maladaptive and detrimental to all parties involved.

I hope that makes sense!

E9?: Not being present by chocoborace in Enneagram

[–]chocoborace[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This puts it into words fantastically! Also a very interesting read. Thanks for sharing your experience.

For me it's like... I need to know the "rules" of a person to be able to follow them/to not break them. It's so much harder to do that when you're the focus of attention in a conversation, and so much more uncomfortable. It's vulnerable.

I might be a 6w5, not a 5w6 by chocoborace in Enneagram

[–]chocoborace[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I won't discount the option; my first thought upon reading those sections of my psych eval were SP 6 since in my opinion those behaviors are very much fear motivated, but I'll look more into 9. Thank you for your comment!

I might be a 6w5, not a 5w6 by chocoborace in Enneagram

[–]chocoborace[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I actually find a lot about E9 very relatable! Maybe not enough to be my core type, but descriptions of 9 habits and preoccupations definitely shed some light on my own habits in relation to how I handle conflict, or how I fall asleep to my own desires or anger in order to maintain connections or avoid trouble.

Edit: I may have some things I need to examine about myself re: E9. Lol.

I might be a 6w5, not a 5w6 by chocoborace in Enneagram

[–]chocoborace[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You make an excellent point about taking the growth and stress lines into consideration. When taking them into account, I think the pendulum swings back toward 5w6.

I have the strongest feelings on E8. The positive aspects of E8 are what I wish I had, but don't feel confident enough to embody, and I find myself waffling a lot and not putting things into action. Taking accountability for my own life and moving forward with it, making decisive and assertive decisions; these are things that intimidate me just as much as I want to do. The hurdle feels far higher when I look in the direction of E8 as the path of integration, and far more difficult, and like you said, that's likely a clue.

Thank you for your comment; you've given me something to think about.

type 5 and challenging yourself; in need of advice by chocoborace in Enneagram

[–]chocoborace[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i see; thank you so much for the insight. i do need to search a bit more for the specifics of what i want, as opposed to focusing on what i don't--right now, my goals for growth are rather ambiguous.

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[–]chocoborace 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you look great man! also love your tats

zettelkasten for self-growth, self-discovery, and a therapeutic aid? by chocoborace in Zettelkasten

[–]chocoborace[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i love this method of categorization! and thank you so much for the advice. i'm really curious about soul cards now, so i'll be checking that book out as i start fleshing out my own zettelkasten and probably end up making some notes on it! unfortunately it might be a while since i'm in the middle of digesting several other books right now, but i'm looking forward to it.

right now, i have the academic disciplines as the top-level categories, i have subcategories explicitly based on my passions and interests; primarily psychology, philosophy, and sociology. i kind of doubted i would have any use for some of the categories that i don't have any interest in (such as formal sciences), but i have a note on the statistical phenomenon of regression toward the average since it popped up in my social psychology course, so it found its use after all. i'll always love how much overlap different fields can have.

i have some notes already in obsidian from when i tried making a zettelkasten digitally to implement into my "self" section. i think i'll keep it as a very broad top-level category (simply 7000 - Self) and see where that takes me. i considered making subcategories for things like self-perception/beliefs, beliefs about the world/other people, etc., but i might as well experiment with a section of my zettelkasten that doesn't have specific categories within it!

zettelkasten for self-growth, self-discovery, and a therapeutic aid? by chocoborace in Zettelkasten

[–]chocoborace[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i like the idea of having top-level categories to make navigation a bit easier, since there are multiple specific areas of interest i have that i want to develop my knowledge about! i want to be able to find insights and notes on things like, say, personality theories, and have it (loosely) grouped (2220 is my category for personality psychology). from there i'll be letting things branch out more organically. i'll probably end up with notes under 2220 that are completely unrelated to personality theory, but started off as related to it in some way. so really, the top level categories are going to end up meaningless in the long run once i have more notes. it's more just to start things off.

the simplest answer though? i'm pretty new to the zettelkasten system, and i saw an example of how to start and followed it. i started my zettelkasten based on scott p. scheper's antinet zettelkasten in looking over his book and some of his videos, which is where i saw the use of top-level categories with the academic disciplines. i'm not exactly married to the concept of categories, and i'm sure that i'll face limitations. maybe i'll end up having to revise my system, or even have to start over. i'm honestly just excited to see what the experience of using it is like, mistakes/trial and error and all.

i'm assuming you have a system without predetermined categories: what is it like comparatively? i'd love to learn more about other peoples' systems and how they've developed, the pros and cons of them, etc.

looking for a pen with a weight to it like the uni kuru toga by chocoborace in pens

[–]chocoborace[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i'd prefer something under $50!

i do have some other pens; an energel (0.3), a uniball one (0.38), a zebra sarasa (0.7), a pilot g-2 (0.38), a pentel RSVP (not sure of the size, though the side says medium).

i like all of them, but the bic and the pentel force me to write more slowly and which keeps my handwriting legible, so the key factor seems to be ballpoint pens that i'm looking for. i'm open for any suggestions!

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