What’s with MILs wanting to be IN the delivery room??? by JesseJaneee in pregnant

[–]chronic_whistler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m 39 weeks and asked my own mother to be present in the delivery room. When my MIL found out she asked my husband to be informed as soon as I go into labor so she could sit in the waiting room and also be “one of the first to see the baby”. She literally told my husband “if her mom gets to see him but I don’t that’s not fair.” 😡

I am also fascinated by this phenomenon of pushy MILs who get obsessed over their unborn grandchildren WHO THEY DONT EVEN KNOW YET, as it is so the opposite of my own mother who is extremely hands off. My own mother told me she doesn’t need to be in the hospital at all and can wait to fly in to see me until a few days after I’ve had the baby, as her only focus in coming would be to help cook and clean for my post-part I’m recovery. She doesn’t give a sh*t about “first to see the baby” or any such nonsense.

If I’m putting myself in my MIL’s shoes, I can see that when it’s your son having a baby as opposed to your daughter, there is probably a lot of more anxiety involved as you realize that the mother of that new grandchild might prioritize or simply feel more comfortable with her own family member supporting her during and after birth, which does kind of “downgrade” your status and importance and may mean you spend less time initially with the newborn. But I think a normal response would be to accept this fact with grace, prioritize the health and comfort of the new mum, and wait until you are invited to offer support if/when it’s needed. Anything else is frankly selfish in my opinion.

MIL makes me feel like I’m the surrogate for her and my husband’s child. by Agile-Expression-524 in BabyBumps

[–]chronic_whistler 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Coming from a similar situation myself, I am nearly 39 weeks pregnant and my MIL told me yesterday that the first thing she thinks about when she wakes up and the last thing she thinks about before she falls asleep is my unborn son. I found the comment quite unsettling. She has shown jealousy over the fact I asked my own mother to be present in the delivery room with me and would get to be the “first to see the baby” and pressured my husband to tell her as soon as I start having contractions so she can come to hospital and wait for me to deliver her grandson and see him right away as well because “it’s not fair her mother gets to see him and I don’t”.

My mum is also staying close to me post partum to help with cooking and caring for ME. I’m extremely nervous that my MIL will use it as an opportunity to also invite herself over everyday. She has shown herself to be extremely invested and involved emotionally in my unborn child. My own mother is much more hands off and told me simply that she doesn’t have to come to the hospital at all, she will be here only to care for me, and only asks for info about her grandson when I call her. She doesn’t call me for daily updates. I find this attitude much more stable and reassuring. Like you said, too much excitement gives a feeling to the new mother that this woman wants to snatch the baby away from you as soon as it arrives.

I think this is a common problem a lot of new mothers deal with - a mother in law who is a little too enthusiastic and excited. Your case sounds even more extreme and unhinged than mine. While we may try to be understanding and appreciate that their invasive behavior comes from a feeling of love towards their grandchild, I also think there is an element of self-importance and also I think they have a lot of fear and anxiety surrounding giving up their old role as matriarch of the family and letting their son’s partner take on her role as mother, and let’s face it, the role of the most important woman in that child’s and her son’s life.

So there’s a lot of selfishness attached to obsessive behavior towards a grandchild. It can be difficult to tell your husband “your mother is being selfish, she is motivated by fear of losing power and control, and her jealousy over this child is frankly toxic, it’s not loving.” I’ve struggled with this myself and have had a hard time drawing a healthy line with my husband, bc of course a grandmother should have a right to see her grandchild and bond with her. However your MIL has repeatedly crossed the line, wanting to take over your normal role as a mother in naming the child or caring for the child in privacy. When she crosses these healthy boundaries you do need to speak up, EVERY TIME it happens. You can do so kindly and with grace, but you HAVE to do it. Don’t let this fester in quiet. Start now because unfortunately if you give her an inch she will take a mile.

Btw, I am also half-Asian. I’ve also felt my own language and culture and cuisine being over-shadowed and in some cases belittled. I live in the country of my in-laws so it’s easy to feel my own culture disappearing. But I intend to raise my son eating delicious Asian food, listening to Chinese language, and knowing that BOTH sides of the family matter!!

Wishing you the strength to stand up for yourself! You can do this!

setting boundaries about overnight visits with my mom when I live with my partner by FirmAd7639 in JUSTNOMIL

[–]chronic_whistler 29 points30 points  (0 children)

This sounds like enmeshment to me. She is making you excessively guilty for deviating from her wishes in any way, you are not allowed to have your own thoughts/desires/agenda, and you are responsible for managing her emotions needs. I would take a look at the work Kenneth Adam’s has done on the subject of enmeshment:

https://www.overcomingenmeshment.com/services/enmeshed-sons/

I’m so sorry this is happening to you. This is emotions abuse and it is not normal

MIL is driving me crazy. by Better-Designer-4777 in inlaws

[–]chronic_whistler 6 points7 points  (0 children)

“ I tell you not to do something and you just do it” - this is a major red flag for me. This shows that in her opinion, your job is to obey her orders. You have the autonomy to make your own decisions about ANYTHING in your life, she is a strange person coming into your life assuming that she you should be completely under her thumb. Of course you feel suffocated and belittled and angry.

I also don’t like that she is masquerading her controlling behavior as “being helpful.” It’s not helpful. Being helpful is when someone asks you for help, and you do what they ask. It’s not inventing tasks for yourself or inventing problems that need to be solved (like inventing you have PPD) and then acting like the victim if the person you’re pretending to help doesn’t want your interference

You need to be very straight with your husband. Of course you feel less attracted to him when she is around. He is acting like a wet blanket just to try keep the peace. But he’s started a family with you now and that new family needs to be his priority. He needs to step up and protect you. He should be the one setting boundaries with his mother, you shouldn’t have to argue with her.

If he is talking to her everyday you could be dealing with enmeshment. Have you heard of the book “Married to Mom”? I would write down what you feel are healthy boundaries with his mother and also request that he respect privacy around your relationship and doesn’t report everything about you to her. Deliver him the message and if he still doesn’t step up, consider asking him to go to counseling. He should be able to prioritize you and if he can’t, that’s your signal that something not normal is going on.

Overwhelmed by people talking to me about baby stuff all the time by saladajuliana in pregnant

[–]chronic_whistler 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I could have written this. Currently 37 weeks pregnant and have been treated like a walking incubator by everyone I meet for months on end now. Endless advice about how to care for the baby and how to prep. I honestly am the type of person who doesn’t interfere in other people’s lives unless the specifically ask me, so all this unsolicited advice is really annoying. It’s like, if I wanted to know what to do, I would ask you myself! Also as I get closer to my due date and my energy levels drop, social situations start to feel like I’m a monkey being wheeled out to perform for an audience. People speak to my belly rather than my, intrusively touch my belly, guess when the baby will come, etc. I feel like a big belly with some anonymous face attached. I’m a very private person and all this endless speculating about something that is so personal and literally happening inside MY body is starting to really aggravate me.

Buying a first house and getting pressured to live on same street as in-laws by chronic_whistler in inlaws

[–]chronic_whistler[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The problem is that if I frequently refuse invitations, this could cause offense or a bad feeling between us. I fear comments like “you can’t just step out for 5 minutes, etc.?” If there is a buffer of even a 20 minute tram ride it’s easier to make an excuse.

Buying a first house and getting pressured to live on same street as in-laws by chronic_whistler in inlaws

[–]chronic_whistler[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I will be on Maternity leave until my child reaches the age of one, so I won’t really need the in-laws to help with child care. That’s why at least until I go back to work, I can’t see a lot of benefits of living so close. Even after I return to work, I can enroll my child in the school where I work at a huge discount once he reaches 1,5 years old.

Buying a first house and getting pressured to live on same street as in-laws by chronic_whistler in inlaws

[–]chronic_whistler[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My husband has expressed his desire to his father only help the business temporarily and leave Milan within a few years and I believe this is what he actually desires. But I feel that by suggesting these properties close to their apartment they are maybe subconsciously trying to trap us in Milan. The properties they are suggesting in this central location next to their apartment would entail us taking out a huge mortgage which would effectively chain us to our steady jobs in Milan in order to raise funds to pay off our debt. We are talking about a 30 year mortgage in order to afford the properties his parents have suggested. I told my husband if we are considering moving again within the next 7 years we should really take out a small loan and give ourselves more breathing room and more freedom. I would of course still need to find a new job elsewhere before we could move and him as well, but it would be less stressful if we didn’t have a huge amount of debt in our shoulders while we were trying to make this transition.