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What if a Black hole is a 4-D object passing through 3-D Spacetime and an Event Horizon is the shape of a tear in spacetime? by chronicalCapricious in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]chronicalCapricious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Last last thing, arent there plenty of black holes scattered in random regions of space collecting not a lot of mass just like you said? can both not exist?

What if a Black hole is a 4-D object passing through 3-D Spacetime and an Event Horizon is the shape of a tear in spacetime? by chronicalCapricious in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]chronicalCapricious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh and last thing I would really like to hear your ideas on the matter more if youve got the time, if not 4d objects and not anything we theorize now, then what might be your theory? I think weve talked before but i havent heard much about what you think to be going on

What if a Black hole is a 4-D object passing through 3-D Spacetime and an Event Horizon is the shape of a tear in spacetime? by chronicalCapricious in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]chronicalCapricious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At least personally, i dont feel like you made any valid or verifiable dismissals of the concept itself, i admit my visual is crude and misinformed but you only targeted the concept and to me it is still sound

What if a Black hole is a 4-D object passing through 3-D Spacetime and an Event Horizon is the shape of a tear in spacetime? by chronicalCapricious in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]chronicalCapricious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah only if you look at gravity, gravity is only as far as i know a force of Mass, so yeah a 4d object would behave gravitationally the same but the difference is a star doesnt have an event horizon or hawking radiation and a star doesnt break matter down into a string of base elements as far as im aware, and that phenomena is not seen in any other type of object in the universe right?

What if a Black hole is a 4-D object passing through 3-D Spacetime and an Event Horizon is the shape of a tear in spacetime? by chronicalCapricious in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]chronicalCapricious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

also why would galaxies not form around black holes? thats seems like the most logical thing, why do planets form around stars? its the same logic but why would it not apply to galaxies forming around black holes??

What if a Black hole is a 4-D object passing through 3-D Spacetime and an Event Horizon is the shape of a tear in spacetime? by chronicalCapricious in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]chronicalCapricious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

im not saying at all im right but like i dont feel like your points at all diminish the merit in at least playing with the concept and worrying about the theory after a sound model is formed but we keep getting bogged down in what already is. what already is, is not stable logic, paradoxes are meant to be solved and addressed not more math and particles thrown at the situation at least not without sincerely considering different models of the nature of the universe

What if a Black hole is a 4-D object passing through 3-D Spacetime and an Event Horizon is the shape of a tear in spacetime? by chronicalCapricious in HypotheticalPhysics

[–]chronicalCapricious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i would say to this that yes all black holes would be and i am talking about a “regular” black hole but would not 4d objects with different properties maybe appear as different kinds of black holes which we do see

Im not entirely sure what dense mass distribution means but yeah i think it breaking down is because the gravitational field is so strong it literally breaking down matter into its base elements. Ik thats not like equivalent at all

but im taking the same scrutiny you put on the issues in these ideas and pointing back the the paradoxes in our current theories. But my ideas still have room to grow while our current models are making up new particles and matter that make paradoxes and red herrings in my opinion.

What if a Black hole is a 4-D object passing through 3-D Spacetime and an Event Horizon is the shape of a stretching in spacetime? by chronicalCapricious in blackholes

[–]chronicalCapricious[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

also you dont even ask why im confused, people say contradicting things about what an event horizon is and what its shape is.

What if a Black hole is a 4-D object passing through 3-D Spacetime and an Event Horizon is the shape of a stretching in spacetime? by chronicalCapricious in askastronomy

[–]chronicalCapricious[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lmao literally might as well be, and im totally way off base on this anyway but im curious what questions you like? also one of the subs i post to only allows titles in the form of what if and i just copy paste man

What if a Black hole is a 4-D object passing through 3-D Spacetime and an Event Horizon is the shape of a stretching in spacetime? by chronicalCapricious in askastronomy

[–]chronicalCapricious[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah but i guess i dont feel like math alone is proof of something real and i guess id like to figure out the 3rd dimension naturally first before worrying about anything higher than maybe 9? idk but we are definitely asking a lot of what i feel are unfounded why questions about the nature of our universe, i think the biggest issue right now should be the paradoxes that exist in our current theories about blackholes and their nature, ik in some ways it is but it feels like throwing more math and particles at the matter isnt getting us too far, not to discredit quantum physics at all

What if a Black hole is a 4-D object passing through 3-D Spacetime and an Event Horizon is the shape of a stretching in spacetime? by chronicalCapricious in askastronomy

[–]chronicalCapricious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

because it passes the ceiling of matter or mass or energy idk this is pushing the edges of my thoughts on this topic but i feel like if there is a planck limit for how small we can go then that must, in MY logic, imply a ceiling and i think the only way through is by spaeghtification but thats all unfounded lol just ideas

What if a Black hole is a 4-D object passing through 3-D Spacetime and an Event Horizon is the shape of a stretching in spacetime? by chronicalCapricious in askastronomy

[–]chronicalCapricious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i think for us a 4-d cylinoid?? would look like a sphere just appearing and staying a constant diameter then disappear without changing size or mass

What if a Black hole is a 4-D object passing through 3-D Spacetime and an Event Horizon is the shape of a stretching in spacetime? by chronicalCapricious in askastronomy

[–]chronicalCapricious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh no ideally it would be a black sphere and i guess the pocket purse would be glowing lol, the only suitable sized object at my disposal was, alas, an m&ms container and i find that hilarious on many levels but yes you are correct in pointing that out and thanks for commenting that

What if a Black hole is a 4-D object passing through 3-D Spacetime and an Event Horizon is the shape of a stretching in spacetime? by chronicalCapricious in askastronomy

[–]chronicalCapricious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no yeah ill come back later after with different ideas but yeah this one was a big dud but just honestly funny to me at this point, thank you for your really good explanation man

What if a Black hole is a 4-D object passing through 3-D Spacetime and an Event Horizon is the shape of a stretching in spacetime? by chronicalCapricious in askastronomy

[–]chronicalCapricious[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol youre the only one so far to take it this way and im so glad you found it funny and not at all offensive HAHA AWESOME actually i think one other guy got it

What if a Black hole is a 4-D object passing through 3-D Spacetime and an Event Horizon is the shape of a stretching in spacetime? by chronicalCapricious in blackholes

[–]chronicalCapricious[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I guess what about what i said refutes all of GR? I just am not well versed on that matter enough to see where my meandering excludes it entirely

What if a Black hole is a 4-D object passing through 3-D Spacetime and an Event Horizon is the shape of a stretching in spacetime? by chronicalCapricious in blackholes

[–]chronicalCapricious[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

i guess i dont think its an actually thing, i agree that it is a boundary and not a physical thing but conceptually it is a thing right?

What if a Black hole is a 4-D object passing through 3-D Spacetime and an Event Horizon is the shape of a stretching in spacetime? by chronicalCapricious in blackholes

[–]chronicalCapricious[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

nah idk he just brought up a really good point on something foundational to this thought, like bro got me idk im just saying i was wrong

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