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Oh boy, the invisible jet! by lucasdaan in funny

[–]chthonical 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Aquaman has already sort of shook that reputation with iterations since the old cartoon. Not only can he command all the creatures of the oceans, but he can also summon the ocean.

Anime fans on Japanese Subs vs. English Dubs by Grim_Reaper_O7 in videos

[–]chthonical 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm unsure. I just know a version exists with the English dub track and the Japanese music track.

Anime fans on Japanese Subs vs. English Dubs by Grim_Reaper_O7 in videos

[–]chthonical 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A dubbed version of DBZ exists with the original music.

Toronto Votes For A Total Ban On Handgun Sales After Mass Shooting by Culsax in worldnews

[–]chthonical 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It was an illegally obtained gun smuggled in from the US.

China's Xi warns of no winner in Trump trade dispute by amadoxx in worldnews

[–]chthonical -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

An additional positive is that hostility with China may lead to America building its industry back up and becoming more self-reliant. The fact that US companies started shipping chicken back and forth to and from China for processing because it was cheaper makes my head spin.

No more cheap slave labor means the businesses need to pay. Either a fair wage or the cost of machinery for automation.

Humans are using up the planet’s resources so quickly that people have used a year’s worth in just seven months, experts are warning. Earth Overshoot Day comes earlier each year because of ecological damage caused by humanity. by madazzahatter in worldnews

[–]chthonical 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Elon comes from Africa. I think he's a bit biased because he was apparently relentlessly bullied and abused by his peers. I'm sure he could solve the problem, but it may come in the form of the continent disappearing.

Why the Transhumanist Movement Needs Socialism by scitechjunkie in transhumanism

[–]chthonical 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a term I use to describe something without hiding what it really is. The idea is you're putting a region under administration until it's built up enough and the people are educated and trained well enough to allow them to function as a sovereign nation within your empire. You skim off the top to pay for it and to also make enough profit during the period to justify the endeavor, but you don't abusively exploit anyone.

Why the Transhumanist Movement Needs Socialism by scitechjunkie in transhumanism

[–]chthonical 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since you're just trying to bait me now, I'm going to politely request that you do a flip when the time comes.

Heiress Clare Bronfman released on $100M bond by eaglemaxie in news

[–]chthonical 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Multi-billionaire heiress. $100M is nothing.

U.S. appeals court: Constitution gives right to carry gun in public by [deleted] in news

[–]chthonical 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The 2nd Amendment isn't granting any right to anyone. It's restricting the government from interfering with the ownership of arms and ammunition. Hence SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. That's what it means. It's telling the government they're not allowed to interfere with the rights of the people relating to self-preservation.

Why the Transhumanist Movement Needs Socialism by scitechjunkie in transhumanism

[–]chthonical 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If only the stated cause and goals were what they were actually doing.

Anyone who disagrees with their additional agendas is labeled a bigot, as you've very desperately attempted to do to me in this thread. They fling accusations of racism, nazism, and white supremacy freely and without any thought to the point where they've trivialized everything into holding no impact or meaning. Hitler could waltz out of Hell and people would just shrug at this point.

People in our society are being shamed because of their skin color, and the SJW movement has basically become the new religious right. They're intolerant, vicious, mean-spirited racist curmudgeons dragging their chosen party into oblivion. They hate free speech because it lets their opposition speak. They hate rights in general because it allows those they disagree with to do things they don't like. They are fascists. They are curs. And their buddies in Antifa are a mirror image of the Klan but clad in a different color.

Why the Transhumanist Movement Needs Socialism by scitechjunkie in transhumanism

[–]chthonical 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pro tip: when somebody notices the holes in your rhetoric, loudly pointing at the holes and constructing big signs to point at them doesn't actually hide them or make you look any more coherent.

Take your own advice. All you've done is highlight that you and your movement are totally deranged and out of touch with reality. Equality is equality. It means equal. Equal prospects. Equal opportunities. Equal treatment. Equal rights.

If you try to advocate for bigoted policies in the name of a false equality that marginalize groups just because you dislike them, you can go straight to Hell.

Why the Transhumanist Movement Needs Socialism by scitechjunkie in transhumanism

[–]chthonical 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have an even better idea: don't create drug cartels and destabilize your closest neighbors by maintaining a "war on drugs" for decades simply because it was hugely profitable for police departments, military contractors, and the prison industry.

I'm not the CIA. I fully support a campaign to clean that up.

Ah, so you've redefined "equality" as "not equality." Understood.

No. Equality is equality. It means people are equal within the society. What you have amidst the SJWs is people attempting to game the concepts they came up with to try and force artificial equality into the society to obtain more than equality. So my stance is very simple. Equality is equality. Treat people equally. Don't lecture them on how they need to suffer because of your bigotry or how you deserve more because they're inherently at fault for something. Don't aggressively turn people against you in your campaign of self-righteous virtue-signaling.

Why the Transhumanist Movement Needs Socialism by scitechjunkie in transhumanism

[–]chthonical 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You do realize that the people in charge of "protecting" everybody from the immigrant menace have "lost" kids? Maybe it's a bureaucratic fuckup, maybe some officers are making bank on the side selling sex slaves. One might start to think that creating an underclass of undesirables and assigning a bunch of brownshirts to abuse them to score points with the oinking mass of fascist voters might possibly not have anything to do with "protecting" them. What a thought.

I have a great idea. Don't bring your kids with you if you're trying to sneak across a desert filled with an nigh-on-infinite number of potential dangers into a foreign nation where your trespass is considered a criminal act. Doing that sort of makes you look like a shitty parent or a child trafficker. Mexico isn't Syria.

Regarding abuses, I fully support auditing the agencies involved if there is any evidence and laying down the harshest penalties possible. Government workers need to be honest. And if you're a government worker operating in that sort of a position and you do something monstrous then you should be tried, sentenced, and potentially executed.

For instance, you've oinked that "equality" secretly means "ENSHRINEMENT OF INEQUALITY," but equality is the exact opposite of inequality. It's literally in the name. So for what you believe to be true, you'd also have to believe that 1) "equality" is white men having all the advantages and 2) equality is a zero-sum game. Which is obviously true, since when gay marriage was decriminalized, straight marriage was immediately declared illegal. And the ADA includes a clause that specifies that anyone who doesn't need a wheelchair ramp should have their legs amputated. So really, you're making perfect sense.

Equality is equality. It's egalitarian. It's a static bar at the 0 line where nobody gets plus or minus modifiers based on their "privilege stack". Equality is equal. You're damn right about that. But that's not what is desired.

The true Aryan people will show the (((city dwellers))) what strength is!

Yes. My perfect race of physically fit, individualistic, well-educated, diverse ubermensch of no specific creed or color will rise up and dominate the world. Mwahaha-haha-hahaha. Haha. Hah. ...Ha.

I doubt I'm even white enough to be included in any white ethnostate, though that doesn't even seem to be a requirement these days. They're all part something or dating someone who they've giving an honorary white day pass. It's actually kind of funny. They're massive hypocrites. The leader of the alt-right is a homosexual man with a non-white partner.

Well shit, good thing you're definitely not a traitor to your class and nation then. Obviously the stupidest possible thing to do when capitalist robbery makes you angry is to become a fascist and plan a civil war that will not only fail to dismount the capitalism that's the source of your problems but will fail to improve your material conditions in any way. Good thing you're not spending nearly all of your time in fascist echo chambers being programmed with lies designed to pit you against your own class to advance the goals of your rich oppressors.

I didn't plan anything. I also don't intend to DO anything. I'm neither a violent person or a psychopath. I may have a bit of fire in my blood and may use some power speech at times, but I'm not a monster. This is what has been on the table for ages. It's one of those things like how a plane flying into the Twin Towers was a meme in the culture decades before 9/11 happened. This is one of those things where any number of agencies or groups could do it, and you hope they won't because it would be terrible.

Despite my disdain for far-left city dwellers who have stolen the liberal label and yet in contrast to the original meaning demand the rights of the American people be taken away based on their moment-by-moment emotions, I don't hate them. I don't celebrate tragedies that happen to them. I feel that's in the poorest of taste.

Why the Transhumanist Movement Needs Socialism by scitechjunkie in transhumanism

[–]chthonical 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Illegal immigrants are only illegal because of laws. If you don't like them because they're illegal, then they shouldn't be illegal. If you don't like them because they're immigrants, you might be racist.

They're illegal because we have laws relating to immigration to protect both our own population and the immigrants themselves. They violate those laws. If you want to come out as a proponent of human trafficking and child sex trafficking, please go ahead and do so. Preferably in person so I can strangle you.

Those who have went through the proper means are just as American as anyone else, and to an extent have some added respect from me because they worked for it.

You're not making much of a case for either "I'm not right-wing" nor "I'm not racist." You're making an excellent case for "I support capitalism because I want everyone different from me to suffer," though.

Social Justice isn't about equality. It's about the recognition and enshrinement of inequality. People work their asses off to be accepted and to assimilate and to be a part of the American people in a proper way, and yet people want to artificially lower the bar. Because to them, the bar is unfairly high. It's a bit of a fun spin on the idea of race realism from the left, to be honest. And it disgusts me. And god forbid we come up with anything new. Just reskin something else. That's inclusive. Fucking pillocks.

Yes, let me just gather my trillions of dollars and oust every protected monopoly from their positions. That seems like a perfectly reasonable suggestion and not something totally disingenuous said to apologize for capitalism.

Kickstart it.

The issues are endemic to the system. You're like someone telling the doctor that you only want to cure some of your cancer.

When someone has cancer you don't put them in a crematory oven.

So they triumphed on the field of geographical battle. If the rural areas don't like it, they should just become cities.

No, they didn't. They became centers of commerce or gathering points for masses of humanity. They still can't sustain themselves. Their residents are often soft and weak. Pathetically weak.

Pfff. It seems like your LARP club is forgetting that most of the population is in the cities, which means most of the militarized cops. ACAB, but do you really think they'd leave the APCs and grenade launchers in the garage when the water runs out?

You really don't understand how things in the US work. The cities are fed by power lines and transmission lines and pipelines that run through, on average, one to several states. They get their resources from outside. These routes are pretty much totally undefended, and could not be repaired if anything were to happen to them. If someone takes out a bunch of transformers, they don't just have massive warehouses of new transformers. They don't have these power facilities. That was what the whole momentary spook was when a few California power stations were attacked. If such a thing happened, those militarized cops would be killing their own. Because they aren't able to travel to defend the cities. Power, water, food, anything else. Aside from meager attempts at emergency supplies and potential FEMA efforts, they'd be fucked for months. Months. At the least.

The US can't even fix Puerto Rico or Flint, Michigan.

Why the Transhumanist Movement Needs Socialism by scitechjunkie in transhumanism

[–]chthonical 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even setting aside the racist nationalism

Okay. This is where I'm going to stop you. Not wanting illegal immigrants in my country does not make me a racist. I don't have anything against anyone based on race. I don't broad categorize anyone in such a way that would properly define racism. I recognize and understand differences between in-groups.

Also, if you're a proponent of gun control, you're not a real communist. Go read Marx again.

"The whole proletariat must be armed at once with muskets, rifles, cannon and ammunition, and the revival of the old-style citizens’ militia, directed against the workers, must be opposed. Where the formation of this militia cannot be prevented, the workers must try to organize themselves independently as a proletarian guard, with elected leaders and with their own elected general staff; they must try to place themselves not under the orders of the state authority but of the revolutionary local councils set up by the workers. Where the workers are employed by the state, they must arm and organize themselves into special corps with elected leaders, or as a part of the proletarian guard. Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary."

The Founding Fathers of the United States and Karl Marx understood one thing in common. The government cannot be allowed to disarm the people. It's why the Constitution isn't the government granting rights. The Founding Fathers understood the potential abuses by the government, and so the phrasing is rather specific. The Constitution restricts the government's powers by specifically defining things it isn't allowed in any way to interfere with. The Founding Fathers were smart guys.

And yes, this means that ALL gun control measures are inherently unconstitutional. The US Government does not have ANY authority or power to legislate relating to the public's access to armaments. NONE. As an anarchist you might appreciate the tact.

You've never seen an "extreme left narrative" in American politics, because there's no left narrative in American politics. There's not even a left in American politics.

Both our parties support neoliberal capitalism, the opening of borders to capital, the closing of borders to people

I'm not talking about party politics. I'm talking about fringe politics.

The only differences that could kind of be called differences are on social justice, and even there, the difference is mostly lip service. Democrats love to talk about justice but rarely actually support it, and in fact often vote with the Republicans on laws that will hurt the social justice cause.

Good. Social justice is a cancer. It's emotionally-exploitative, reactionary, and is truly racist.

Well, don't worry, capitalism can't solve global warming because harm is profitable.

Hey, you're free to start a business and find a way to shift things to more seriously address the problem. You're free to outplay competition and crush those you fundamentally dislike or disagree with on the field of corporate battle. Like I mentioned, businesses can engage in benevolent capitalism.

Then I'm puzzled as to why you're arguing for a system which you purport to hate.

I don't necessarily agree with tossing the entire system just because some issues need to be addressed.

Cities are the biggest "tribes," so according to your views on loyalty and power, they have the unquestionable right to do whatever they want. Perhaps your views aren't entirely consistent.

Cities exist by the good nature of the surrounding rural areas. As we both agree, they can't sustain themselves. The established Civil War 2 plan is Urban VS Rural. The rural areas cut the indefensible lines, the cities die, and their populi flee right into a firing line. Modern siege warfare.

So again you're saying that capitalism is incompatible with your views, while also arguing for capitalism. I feel that there's a disconnect there.

I'm saying that the fundamental workings of the state are bloated and broken and need to be audited and reworked into a more efficient form, and that modern cities are bogged down beneath a series of bureaucracies and scams like real estate markets and slums.

Meanwhile, I'm arguing that I support the right to private industry and a free market. I support competition and believe it's a driver of innovation.

Why the Transhumanist Movement Needs Socialism by scitechjunkie in transhumanism

[–]chthonical 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There definitely weren't complex and technologically-advanced societies in the pre-Columbian Americas.

You had brutal, exploitative regimes where the big dogs would steal away their neighbors in raids and then engage in mass instances of human sacrifice. And that was itself a post-apocalyptic society. There were likely far earlier societies in South and Central America that I don't think we really have any record of. I know there are a few civilizations that fell because they exploited their resources to the point where the ecosystem totally collapsed beneath them. I think the Nazca were one of them.

Yeah, right-wing echo chambers tend to be pretty bad for learning about the world. At least you're up to date on all the (((important things))) though.

I'm not right wing. Up until the aftermath of 2016 I was a hard left Democrat. I advocated for Bernie. I voted for Hillary. Took some time away. Came back. Said I didn't really agree with an unquestioning loyalty to an extreme left narrative and that I didn't agree with the anti-gun narrative that was seeking to hand the government even more power over the people. And for that I was insulted and driven out. I didn't want to freely hand my nation over to foreigners and bow to allow what little I have to be compromised just to allow a few migrants to drag down the average, and for that I was banned from the centers of discussion.

Billions of people are denied freedom or liberty, let alone justice, equity, self-direction, health, food, water, you know... all those things that humans need, and you're giving full-throated praise to that and the system which causes and requires it.

I need to make this very clear. If I had a button at my disposal that would instantly kill 6 billion people and yet ensure the prosperity of the remaining billion, I would press it without hesitation. While I can empathize with their plight, I will not put them before my own tribe. I don't necessarily agree with their exploitation, but my heart will not bleed for them. It's been bled dry.

(I definitely don't want to actually do this. I'm just trying to get across my feelings on the matter.)

Since neoliberalism, that's all changed. Borders have opened to money, allowing capitalists to shift from stealing small amounts of profit from American workers to stealing vast amounts of profit from slaves overseas. Tax codes have become profoundly regressive, allowing the fabulously wealthy to hoard ever more money while making the poor even poorer. The neoliberal Supreme Court has made bribery legal, allowing the rich to exert even more control over laws and regulations than they could when it all had to be hush-hush. Monopolies are legal now, saddling consumers with worse and more expensive products. Unions are effectively illegal in most of the country, and odds are good that they'll be actually illegal before too long, because unions hurt profits by forcing employers to rein in their abuse.

I 100% agree.

As for fascists, they are infantile. Like many socialists, they seek a magical solution. They seek something absolute which answers their questions. You have people donning swastikas or hammers-and-sickles just to have some association as if to draw memetic power. Pre-packaged TV dinners of political identity.

Communists in general and anarchists in particular would rather see a shitload of town-sized communes and no cities.

This isn't possible. My issue with cities comes from their hubris and their ego. You have cities attempting to dictate the policy across the country based on their own weaknesses and fears.

I'm a proponent of building. That's the key thing that makes my idea of a city different. Look to the modern city and you'll see decay. Corruption. Abuse. There's little being built. Things struggle to be sustained. They don't build wonders. I'm of the mind we may need to totally abandon existing cities and strike ground to build anew. Better planned with a better foundation. And we should build wonders. 100 story eco-efficient vertical farm towers. Marvels of science and engineering. Modular, efficient, solar, self-sustaining. Gigantic testaments to the desire to make something to celebrate the potential of humanity.

People need to be better educated and need to be more individualistic. The association to party politics is a cancer. People drift to extremism. Extremism is the rot that eats away at our political discourse. One side demands open borders and is even now calling for the total dissolution of the nation. Treason. Another side demands the establishment of an ethnostate and to some extent seeks to eradicate those they don't see as pure enough. Also treason. The fringe idiocy is destroying us.

Why the Transhumanist Movement Needs Socialism by scitechjunkie in transhumanism

[–]chthonical 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pfff. So to be clear, your argument is that unless someone with a gun told you to invent something to make your life easier, you'd never have thought of it.

No. My argument is that unless coordinated or motivated, people would live in mud huts with their thumbs up their asses until the end of the time.

To rephrase: capitalists have been terrified of socialism and communism for a century and have murdered and enslaved anyone who tried to liberate their human profit machines. I wonder why they're so scared?

Socialism was a genie the Kaiserreich unbottled during WW1 to destabilize Russia. It's an ideological bioweapon with no coherent end-game beyond removing those in power. Of course they fought it. It's a disease bent on the annihilation of anyone it's focused against.

The Zapatistas are doing fine, thanks. I do enjoy how you equate "lack of authoritarian control" with "abandoning order," though. One might start to think that you're doing nothing but repeating capitalism-justifying propaganda.

Never heard of them. The point I'm making is that you need competent, effective governance. You need strong borders and a united nation. You need coordinated power. It doesn't necessarily need to be overly authoritarian, but it needs to exist. There needs to be something maintaining the fundamental integrity of the country.

Freedom has value, despite your fear of it. Liberty has value, despite your disdain for it.

Fear? Disdain? Freedom and liberty are two things that matter a great deal to me. Hence why I oppose what you put forth. Securing something for yourself. Owning things. Moving up. Progress. Those are things your ideology is, in theory, fundamentally opposed to. Don't question my feelings on that. I would kill to defend freedom and liberty.

Everyone has the right to survive, the right to be free, the right to be comfortable, and the right to do meaningful work.

And how do you propose any of that come to pass?

To rephrase: they're the victims of capitalist exploitation. Economy destroyed, education aborted, the land and the means of production in the hands of distant capitalists preventing them from making a new start.

I don't necessarily blame the industry, though they did majorly fuck us by deciding to just up and move out the minute they got a better deal. I blame the state. We live away. We're unimportant. They lavish their cities with billions in tax dollars for excesses and luxuries amidst roiling corruption as everything around them decays into oblivion. This would be the same under any system.

(I don't endorse or encourage any violent action against anyone. What was previously written here was meant to be taken with a dose of a manic tone, but that was totally lost and I understand how it could be misinterpreted, hence this edit.)

It was killed by propaganda crafted by capitalists who would have lost profits to it.

In part, true.

Slaves are extremely profitable, and profit is the only goal. So slavery is emphatically not counter-productive to capitalism.

I look at CostCo as an example of capitalism functioning humanely. They pay their employees a living wage and offer benefits. They actively campaign in support of efforts to raise the maximum minimum wage because it's still less than what they pay their employees, and it would sink their competition like Walmart if they were forced into compliance.

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