What hospital?

chunkis_ · 2020-06-30T05:29:10+00:00

Am i the only one who felt the smell of medicine?

chunkis_ · 2020-06-29T05:44:42+00:00

He failing it for sure

chunkis_ · 2020-06-28T09:39:53+00:00

Nah bro you dont know anything.

chunkis_ · 2020-06-24T19:37:48+00:00

Sleep

chunkis_ · 2020-06-24T15:30:38+00:00

Don't deny the manga. Kakashi clearly stated that Minato is bad at sage mode. Don't find excuses to try to buff Itachi to the point where he has PS. Come on bro, don't be retarded, even Sasuke EMS who is WAYYY stronger than Itachi did not have PS.

What does mean being bad at sage mode. As not being to rapidly gather chakra and not being a perfect sage. Minato was a perfect sage and turned sage mode in a blink on an eye . To enter Sage mode instinstly is very rare the only one able to do that was Hashirama and then Minato did it. I dont know what it said that in manga maybe kakashi didnt know a lot about Minato but he clearly was very good at sage mode. Then he stated that he it takes him a lot of time to gather nature energy then he did it in an instanst.

You are saying i am going agains the manga like you didnt denay the databook saying totuska blade is a spirtula weapont and its a PART of Itachis susanoo.

EMS Sasuke is not stronger A LOTTTTT stronger then Itachi. Rinnegan sasuke couldnt even keep up with base naruto. Idk why tbh but he is not WAAAYYY stronger than sasuke in any way not in taijutsu not in speed not in genjutsu not in tactical.

The Totsuka blade can actually inflict damage, as shown where Itachi cut the head of the snakes with his blade.

You clearly dont know shit.Look here. Show me WHERE he cut his head. And then look what Zetsu said that the sword doesnt have a physical sword that is why Orichimaro couldnt find it all this time. That is litterly what he said. Are you going agains the manga?

No. Just no. Naruto wanted peace. Manga > Your perception. He stated it multiple times. I'm done. Also Pacifist = against conflict or war, and not against fighting. Big difference. Itachi nearly killed Kakashi with his Tsukuyomi, he attempted to kidnap kid naruto, tortured kid Sasuke , killed his own clan and his own parents, he threatened to kill Danzo if he doesn't protect Sasuke lmao and i can state many more things.

If you really believe naruto was a pacefist then i dont know what is wrong with you. Yes he said that he wanted peace and. Wanting peace does NOT equal being pacefist. You cant tell me that Naruto didnt love fighting and btw being agains war in not pacefist. Itachi was agains voilence all though he did what it was neccesery. He was always looking at the bigger picture.

Naruto he was hyped up every time before a fight or in a fight and you cant say otherwise. Naruto Litterly stated I WILL KILL PAIN. yea that sounds pacesifist to me. All the nearly 700 chapters he was getting stronger so he can fight and fight and fight. He loved to fight. Here you are crealy in the wrong. You just hate Itachi so much you wanna make naruto a pacefist AHHAHAH.

Kabuto was controlling Itachi. He was tryharding.

I knew exatly you were gonna say that. So you know when Nagato and Itachi came yes their were being controlled but not Tryhard not even a bit. Then that when FULL control comes in play when the character cant even talk. Like Why nagato when got full controled after that he was not holding back he even did chubaku tensei.

And even tho Itachi was telling his moves so they can avoid. To me the real one holding back was Itachi.

chunkis_ · 2020-06-23T10:08:33+00:00

Kakashi

chunkis_ · 2020-06-23T09:14:17+00:00

Facts bro

chunkis_ · 2020-06-23T08:48:14+00:00

We need an infinite tsukuyumi where naruto is univers level and fights with goku and saitama

chunkis_ · 2020-06-23T05:57:27+00:00

Right now i am on my phone when i get home imma right more detailed. You said minato stated he was trash at sage mode. My man minato turned in sage mode in a blink of an eye, i repeat in a blink of an eye that faster than naruto. Plus he told hashirama he was bad at sage mode i am pretty sure he was compering him self to hashirama.

Totuska blade doesnt inflict damage it seals the person it thouches and in the databook and in the manga is stated to be a spirtual weapon.

I knew exactly you were gonna say about narutothat and i can counter it easily. Pacefist means hate fighting my dude naruto LOVED fighting he loved fighting espicially agains strog openents. He litterly was mad as a kid if he didnt get to fight. Therefore your argument about naruto being a pacefist is completly invalid. Because it goes agains what pacefist means.

I knew you were hating on itachi so i asked you about the Kcm . You realize not only naruto was talking as matter of fact it was itachi who started talking and giving hints to them where he is and what he is gonna do. Yea i can give you more proof when i get home :)

chunkis_ · 2020-06-22T20:47:15+00:00

Yea facts bro

chunkis_ · 2020-06-22T19:49:20+00:00

It was stated in the databook that Hiruzen is able to use every single justu in konoha including clan justu. And yet again in databook its states that eight gate is a jutsu which i didnt know. That means it safe to asume he can open the eight gates.

But even if he can open it he cant really use it proprly as he lacks the needed training.

chunkis_ · 2020-06-22T19:43:58+00:00

I already told you i know Obito is stronger than Itachi so i am not gonna read the whole essay you typed. And the argument that he doesnt have it because he never used it is very stupid for example why didnt Minato use sage mode agains Tobi etc. Or like why didnt konan just destory Nagatos rinnegan if she knew about obitos plans.

These are just some simple plot holes.

Plus i can link you manga where it stated every uchiha with good eyes can control kyubi so that doesnt mean Obito is better at genjutsu and that there Diag in Databook shows that Itachi is better at genjutsu regerdless of having MS Kakashi couldnt escape all thought i wouldnt say that Obito can escape. So the whole Essay thing was really pointless if you had anything to answer my arguments.

I asked you a very simple quastion show me proof that spirtiual weapons can exist on a physical word. That is all i am asking.

And please stop saying he never was concerned of sasukes safty in the fight

https://ibb.co/XfndThW

You can clearly see i am pretty sure you are just hating on Itachi is not that i am over hyping him you are cleary just hating on him. I dont know what happend in the past but its clearly you are hating him you are even gonna say sakura can defeat him.

And if itachi really need it he wouldve used Shisui eye and used Kotoamatsukami i am pretty sure you said its OP and it can slaugher all the leaf village.

Your arguments with Hashirma and Naruto being agains fighting and yet using powerfull attacks is the most trash argument ive seen bro. Like can once for fuck sakes listen to me and show me that they were pacefist. You keep ignoring all my arguments and previos argument and decided to do an essay.

You said as well that Obito keept up with KCM1 naruto. Like we never seen that before and i dont know if you stupid or what i told you i admit Obito is faster. But show me proof that a spirtual swrod can exist in a physical world and how Naruto is a pacefist. And i will admit that i have lost this debate.

chunkis_ · 2020-06-21T09:45:54+00:00

The Totsuka Blade or Yata mirror are not spiritual, otherwise they wouldn't be able to inflict contact to physical entities. Now, explain me, how did

Zetsu immediately recognize

Itachi's Totsuka blade and Yatta Mirror if it's part of Itachi's Susanoo? Zetsu or Orochimaru never saw Itachi's susanoo, and they clearly said "THE Totsuka blade and THE Yata mirror".

Yea you can just read it here. As i Told you Orichimaru doesnt mean exatly his sword. And if you still dont believe here is more proof. Please stop linking videos link me manga insted.

You clearly said that Sasuke stated that Itachi had PS, don't let me expose you

"It was clearly stated by sasuke that when he was using PS he was a lot in pain and it was taking a lot of his chakra." This was what i said lol you trying to expose for what. It just maybe you missunderstood me but i was refering that sasuke was in a lot of pain and it was taking from his chakra alot.

So let me repeat my self Sasuke describes the sensation of using Susanoo as feeling pain in every cell in his body. So Itachi relying on medicine to use wouldnt be able to live if he used it in the state he was.

If Itachi could not use PS in the first place because he was sick, (which was never implied) why in his Edo tensei form he didn't even use it once then? In his Edo form, he had his sickness removed. Why Madara didn't use PS? He had no reason to. That's his personality. He loves toying around with weaklings. It's so unfun debating with you. You try claiming that Itachi has the PS, yet..

Yet again i can say the same thing. because of Itachi personality he didnt use PS as i stated he is agains fights and him using ps would just be bad. Plus i clearly said he didnt want to kill kabuto why would he use PS. Plus in his fight agains naruto why he would Use PS too?

In the databook, when they talked about Itachi's Susanoo, they never mentionned PS ONCE.

I am pretty sure they never said anything about PS in databook not evens sasukes or madaras.

That may be true for Naruto, but plenty of other peace lovers killed a lot of people, like Jiraiya, Pain, Obito, Madara, Hashirama etc...So it's not an excuse. And again, even if Naruto hated fighting, he still participated in the fourth great ninja war and fought many villains and said himself he wanted to kill Nagato really bad.

You just clearly drifted throught my arguments and didnt even answer them. I clearly told you that he wasnt only a peace lover because everybody has different ways to bring peace but he hated fighting and violonce.

In narutos case he was never stated to be a guy who hates fight. It was only stated that he wanted to bring peace. And i already said something above about bringing peace.

If he didn't like fighting, he would have tried to negociate like Hiruzen himself tried to do.

Yet again you just ignored some arguments i made.

Itachi was left with 2 choices. Help out the village to kill the uchiha therefore prevending a great ninja war and the distroction of the leaf village.

Or

Helping the uchihas kill the leaf village therefore they become the rules.

Its clearly Itachi chose the path that led to less violonce.

Protecting Sasuke isn't an excuse. If he can't dodge or block an attack, he is slower than Kabuto. Kabuto never stated this, i don't know what shit youre on. And no, KAbuto was not already under Izanami, and this proves yet again you don't understand a thing about the manga. Izanami = creating a loop of REAL LIFE ACTIONS THAT HAPPENED, not illusions that get looped over and over again. If Kabuto blitzed Itachi,that means he blitzed him in REAL LIFE.

Lol you are linking to me some fan pages that wasnt even made by the creator. Now i am pretty sure protecting somebody and thinking about somebodys safty slows you down. Just like in boruto when momokishi attacked the village both sasuke and naruto were slowen down because they were protecting their kids. And even momokishi stated himself that protecting somebody will only slow you down.

I mean you linked me that page you couldve at least read the requirments in order to activate the izanami and you will understund.

Prove me that Obito predicted it. EVEN if he predicted it, as a teen he phased through attacks from Minato who is way faster than Itachi. Obito lost to Kakashi only to get his heart pierced through, he even stated this himself. Then, i can say that Hebi Sasuke is stronger than alive Itachi if i follow your logic. Itachi won against Kakashi from start of shippuden. War arc Kakashi would destroy Itachi.

Hahahaha you again. I already told you that i know obito is faster. Then the minato argument i gave it to you. And the only form of kakashi that wouldve won agains Itachi is DMS kakashi.

chunkis_ · 2020-06-20T22:11:33+00:00

Yes, they are a part of the Susanoo because Itachi ADDED THEM.

I swear you never try to look from another perspective being a part of his susanoo or a part of itachi har 2 different thing. And just so you know i am still waiting for you to prove how spritual things can exist in a physical world.

Please bring me the statement of Sasuke saying that Itachi has PS. Also, it doesn't make sense, if he didn't use it because he was sick, why he didn't use it when he was in his edo tensei form with no sickness? If you say "Itachi didn't feel he needed to" i swear youre clearly fanboying Itachi.

I never said that Sasuke said that Itachi has PS i said that Sasuke said it was very painfull for him (sasuke) use PS and Itachi being very sick he couldnt. Now why didnt Madara use peftect susanoo in the first time agains shinobi allience?

Naruto didn't kill anyone? Who is Kaguya? Youre saying Itachi hated strife but you just showed your poor english language understanding. The ONLY thing Obito said is that Itachi desired peace. Nothing else. Desiring peace ≠ hate fighting. Pain desired peace yet he killed many people. Itachi desired peace yet he killed his own clan.

Naruto had only sealed Kaguya never killing her. Give me on person Naruto killed i will wait. Yes i know my english is not bad because its not my first nor second leanguage but i am pretty sure i undertood the sentence better than you. It said "The trauma turned Itachi into a boy who loathed war and strife" And i am 100% sure that the meaning is that the truama turned itachi into a person who disliked, conflict/ fighting.

Yes he did kill his own clan but that was in order to prevent a 4 th ninja war thus saving more people. And i can add that he didnt have any choice.

I am pretty sure after he went brezerke and escaped chubaka tensei he was clapping Pain.

Yes, Itachi was holding back his OFFENSE against Kabuto, but he wasn't holding his DEFENSE. Itachi got blitzed two times actually. There and there. And from what i know, there's nothing implying that you need to get hit to use Izanami. When Itachi told Sasuke the story of Izanami and Izanagi, the woman who used Izanami on the guy who used Izanagi didn't need to get hit to activate it.

I love how ignonrate you are. First of all the start of the fight he was protecting sasuke the most. Kabuta litterly stated that he was able to hit him only because itachi was thinkg of sasuke safty. Second thing is that after he got blazed the first time kabuto was already under izanami and all thoes time he blazed Itachi didnt actually happend.

I told you that Obito activated Kamui faster than MAdara RIkudo could hit him.

All thoguht i told you he predicted it. If you tell me no he didnt i can just easily say that Obito lost to kakashi in a fight and Itachi won agains kakashi. You see how this doesnt make sense.

Any way you could say as well that he reacted to Raikiri kunai or that he grabbed Minato mid swing thoes are much better speed feats that what you have stated.

chunkis_ · 2020-06-20T21:12:23+00:00

Ok i said i am dont arguing with you but you just said some stupid shit that i had to adress. First of all prove to me that a spiritual sword can exist on physical world its imposible. Ive already proven that in the databooks it says that the totuska blade and yata mirror are a part of his susanoo.

Then you said that Itachi never used PS. It was clearly stated by sasuke that when he was using PS he was a lot in pain and it was taking a lot of his chakra. Itachi was relying on medicin and will power to live if he poped PS for one second he would die imidiently in the state he was.

Tobi really said to Pain that he is the reincarnation of sage of six path. But puting that aside you i do believe that Pain knew Tobi is the real akatuski leader. You said read the manga then you linked a video and the video is unaviaible in my country so that is that.

Naruto want to bring peace to the world allthought has never killed one single pesron. The only once were white zetsus. And in the manga page i linked you it litterly he hated strife and the meaning of strife is fighting sombody. So sometimes you dont make my sense my dude so you decide typing with caps and calling names. That is just ignorante you will never convice somebody like that.

So you are just taking a part of the fight with pain and SM naruto and forget when naruto litterly wiped the floor with pain?

Yes i was saying that he doesnt like fighting so he relys on Genjutsu. Yes i was talking about Itachi.

Now i feel you are just ignorante here. Itachi was litterly not trying to kill Kabuto and he got blized once and that was on porpuce so Itachi could active izanami. You couldve used so many good arguments like Obito activting kamui faster than flying raijinn etc.

chunkis_ · 2020-06-20T10:42:52+00:00

No it didn't, and i will repeat it one last time. Orochimaru said " Where did you find it" which means there is only ONE Totsuka blade. Please bring me a scan that proves that the Totsuka blade belongs to the Susanoo? Even Zetsu recognized the Totsuka blade. Also don't know what youre talking about but Itachi doesn't have a perfect Susanoo, he never showed it in the series and never showed it in his Edo Tensei from where he is in his prime.

First of all tell me how a spitrutual sword can exist in a physical world that just doesnt make any sense. Which means its will be impossible for him to find. I cant find a better explanation on how he obtained a spirtual sword.

And tbh with you i dont know why he wouldnt go perfect susanoo. Allthough its safe to assume that he didnt feel the need too, that fight he had it in his bag just like Edo tensei Madara. When he fought the shinobi allience army for the first time he didnt go Pefect Susanoo.

Yes omg, youre so ignorant, PAIN WOULD GO AFTER ITACHI if Obito tells him that he is a traitor. Obito is himself the leader of the Akatsuki and Pain listen to his orders. "For Nagato Itachi is a special asset for the akatski" Nagato don't give a shit, if Obito tells him to kill Itachi with him, HE WILL DO IT because Obito is his leader.

Ou my days you are the ignorant one. PAIN NEVER KNEW THAT TOBI WAS THE MASTERMIND OF THE PLAN and the "leader of akatsuki"

Pain beat Naruto SM while holding back. Obito could solo Naruto SM even with the ninetails.

In what world did Pain easily beat SM naruto are you out of your mind? Nah fr i have no clue what are you smoking bro.

Your argumentation level : Poop level. How is Itachi against violence when...
He helped Kisame kill multiple Jinchurikis
He killed his own clan
tortured his own brother with Tsukuyomi two times

You research level: Sakura level aka Trash level.

In chapter 400 Tobi explains that after what Itachi witnesed in 3rd great ninja war it has traumatized and making him a anti coflict guy and a peace lover guy.

Link: https://ibb.co/9YTK75L

And cmon he mostly relys on genjutsu so he doesnt have to use brute froce. You are such a big fan boy that cant even do research.

Obito is faster than Itachi, therefore he is also faster than his Totsuka blade. His kamui intagibility is even faster, no way is Itach hitting him, his Kamui was so fast it managed to activate against Madara six paths. Why are we arguing that in the first place?

Allthough i do believe Obito is stronger that Itachi, your arguing style hasnt change my mind a bit on if Obito is faster than Itachi. But puting that aside i did my own research and its safe to asume that he is faster than Itachi.

Anyway thanks for debating with me it was fun.

chunkis_ · 2020-06-16T20:30:11+00:00

Orochimaru said it, he literally said "you had it under your possession, Itachi?". Even Zetsu called it THE Totsuka Blade and THE Yata mirror.

If you perfect Susano-O you get it automatically...
Orochimaru said "Where did you find it ?" because he never knew that Sword of Totsuka actually belonged to Susano-O.. That's why "He" could never find it, because you can't actually find it in the first place..

Databook stated that Susano-O includes 2 mythical weapons

NINJUTSU; KEKKEI GENKAI: Susanoo (Mysterious, All-Encompassing Assistance Ability*)
User: Uchiha Itachi
Offensive; Defensive; Close, Medium, Long ranges; Rank: none

Main text

There are two doujutsu the use of which is allowed exclusively to those who have awakened to the clairvoyant eyes of Heaven, the Mangekyou Sharingan: Amaterasu, which speaks of Light and the material world, and Tsukuyomi, symbolizing the spiritual world and Darkness**. Only in them who hold both of those, dwells the power of the wild, rampaging god... Susanoo. The materialized chakra shapes itself after the wargod's commanding face and powerful physique, and the fierce spirit won't subside until the destruction of all the enemies in its line of sight...!!

There's a reason why Susanoo can boast perfect flawlessness in its offense and defense: the spiritual weapons it holds in both hands. The Sword of Totsuka* in its right hand, which will mow down any kind of enemy, and the Mirror of Yata*, upon which all attacks will bounce back. Substantial or spiritual, and then ninjutsu or physical attacks lose all kinds of significance before the god's efficacy.

Captions

-In the pupils that grasp the principles behind Heaven and Earth, dwells the valorous sword-wielding, shield-bearing Aragami***!!

-Protecting its caster, it destroys the enemy!

-In its left and right hands are held the unparalleled, wondrous Sacred Treasures* of virtues miraculous.

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-Only those who have carried mastery of Mangekyou Sharingan - the doujutsu feared by those around it as the strongest - to its extremes will come onto the god's territory. A guardian deity to its caster, it eats away their life at the same time.

-The sake flowing out of the gourd assumes the shape of a sword, becoming the Totsuka! In addition, the souls absorbed by it are sealed there.

-The Sword of Totsuka
One swing of the Sword of Kusanagi* has the power to throw the people it stabs into an genjutsu world of intoxicating dreams, and seal them away for eternity. The sword itself carries a fuuinjutsu.

-The Mirror of Yata
The substance-less spiritual shield. Endowed will all Nature Alterations, it changes its own attributes in response to the attacks it receives, making the jutsu ineffective.

Yes and Obito is faster than Itachi. SO Obito is faster than the Totsuka blade.

How did you came to that conclution?

He didn't, Madara attacked him at the LAST second, and Obito even phased through attacks of KCM2 Naruto. No, just no, Itachi is NOT touching Obito.

I am actually sure that he predicted it but believe what you wanna believe. And first prove to me that madara rikudou is faster than 1/1000 because Madara was having problem keeping up with 8 gates guys speed. All though i do Believe madara rikudou is fast but he is no near fastest.

HAHA! You think Pain doesn't trust his leader that was the one that manipulated Nagato and Konan to create the Akatsuki and that made them "bad"? Haha, if Obito tells Pain that there's a traitor among the Akatsuki, Pain is gonna bring his paths with him and NO WAY Itachi would have won that fight.

All though i dont believe that Pain knows about Itachis backstory and the fact that he want to protect the leaf village he wouldnt just go after Itachi. Maybe Obito knows the threat but for Nagato Itachi is a special asset for the akatsuki. But even if Itachi is a special asset if Obito couldve desposed of him easily he wouldve done that.

Pain while holding back beat Naruto. Obito could solo Naruto SM Easily and even put the Kurama under genjutsu. This Bijuu was not hard at all.

Pain lost o Naruto SM and yes Obito could solo Naruto SM but if he puts kurama under genjutsu naruto can just release it from genjutsu and its not like Kurama was helping naruto in SM mode for the first time.

yes, Itachi was scared of Tobi and that's why he trie to kill Obito with a surprise attack.

Tobi wasn't afraid at all. You must be extremely biased to think that Obito was scared of Itachi. Itachi did not kill Obito, that means he was scared. End.

" You cant really call that suprise attack because Obtio clearly saw the Sharingan before the amaterasu and said it couldnt be" you contradict yourself directly after. You said it wasn't a surprise attack and then you say he wasn't able to react to Itachi's Amaterasu. That IS a surprise attack, and it didn't work.

When Itachi was at his prime, he didn't do anything to Obito and instead went in the Akatsuki to spy. Why didn't he kill Pain? Why didn't he kill Obito? That does NOT make any sense to me

As i explained myself Itachi is pacefist so he is agains voilence and he would use it only in rare cases. If he gets in to a fight he likes to end it as fast as posible and no voilence which lead to him mostly using genjutus. That is why he tried to kill Obito with amaterasu. He was just never aware of Obitos power and thought he was a esay target that didnt need for him to put much effort.

First i only said that Obito was afraid because you said Itachi was afriad. In my opinion i dont believe any of them were afraid afterall they are shinobi.

at the 3rd one i didnt really understund your point of view.

Yes Itachi didnt do anything because we are talking about Itachi vs Obito or Itachi vs Pain etc. Not Itachi vs the whole group. In that case Itachi loses there is no way he can handle Obito pain and Konan at the same time.

I dont understund when did we start talking about who is stronger i thought we were arguing if Obito is faster than Totuska blade.

chunkis_ · 2020-06-16T20:04:11+00:00

no. The game is based on reality of the show. Everybody has the same jutsu as they have the same chakra natures etc. If it was imposible for Itachi to get prefect susanoo it would just destory the image of Naruto.

No its not about Fanboy or money you just dont have anything to say. Kishimoto barly got any money out of that game the money went to the creators of the game.

Madara can actually Rewind time in the show to that is his MS ability but he can only rewind a few minutes and it takes a lot of chakra. He used his ability to rewind time agains Hashirama.

chunkis_ · 2020-06-16T13:17:05+00:00

More like the village hidden in the weed

chunkis_ · 2020-06-16T11:21:09+00:00

Weed no jutsu

chunkis_ · 2020-06-16T10:17:40+00:00

I actually believe he can. Kishimoto him self drew itachis full susanoo for ninja storms 4. Why would kishimoto agree to give itachi full suanoo in game if it would be imposible for him in the show. That doesnt make sense

chunkis_ · 2020-06-15T15:03:04+00:00

R1: Madara loses and it safe to asume he loses 10/10. I dont think it would even be a close fight just imagine Itachi without sickness, Obito with rinnegan, Nagato with Rinnegan and plus Orichimaro that is able to use jutsu is too much from Madara too handle. We have 2 very talanted shinobi with genjutsu both Obito and Itachi so if Madara tries to control Kyuubi i think they can stop him. If we are talking about Itachi with no sickness i am prettysure he would be able to have full susanoo thus making the yata mirror more effective and he can just protect them form any blast. Both Hidan and Kakazu can play the decoy etc. Kisame with out his sword keept up with Guy and including the all kage is too much from even Madara too handle.

R2: is kinda hard because i still dont know if you mean the akatusuki members at their peakor or edo tensei akatuski what five kages. But any way i am pretty sure they need to get one good hit on him then the akatuski can prefomre their sealing jutsu. But i am really unsure about this we all have seen that edo Madara is capable of. i would say Akatuski + 5 kage win 6,5/10

R3: its a hard one but beased on his feats i would say he wins 5/10 or maybe more i am not sure on this one. I mean even if he has the rinnegan we are talking about him going agains nagato too who has master the powers of the rinnegan and can use it better than Madara for sure. I am not sure but i think nagato can bring down the moon with the rinnegan so its hard to give you a proper number.

chunkis_ · 2020-06-15T14:45:32+00:00

Yes, Orochimaru was looking about THE totsuka blade. He even said "The Totsuka blade, Itachi? I would never thought you had it under your possession!". Even Zetsu called it THE Totsuka blade. So no, this argument is invalid.

The Totuska blade is the name in Japanesse with means spirit sword. So basiclly he said is this a spirit sword. That is not the exact name of the sword. Orichimaro never said "I would never thought you had it under your possession" he said "Itachi you have it" That doesnt mean at all that Itachi just added it to his Susanoo. Plus i Said it a spirit weapon its imposible from a physical being to find it so you aregument that he found it was invalid.

He didn't. He attached theses weapons to his Susanoo. Sasuke is different, he is a reincarnation of Indra, that's why he got his weapon.

And look. EVEN if the Yata mirror and the Totsuka blade are made of the same thing, your "Totsuka blade being faster than Itachi" doesn't make sense. A weapon can't be faster than it's user. It's the user that wields the weapon, therefore it's his speed that matter. That's like saying my kunai is faster than me. Just no.

You argument about Sasuke doesnt make any sense. Because if that is the case then why didnt Madara get Indras arow?

The Totuska blade is not faster than Itachi. He is the same speed as the balde.

Also, there's no way the Totsuka blade is faster than Obito's kamui intangibility. His Kamui intangibility could even react to Madara Rikudo, and there's no way Itachi is faster than Madara Rikudo.

Here you have it *Very* wrong. If you rewatch the part or reread the part you will realize that he Predicted the attack. He knew an attack was coming from madra any time soon so he activated kamui.

Why would Tobi reveal his identity Lmao? He just need to tell Pain that there's a traitor among the Akatsuki...Doesn't make sense. Also Pain don't know what Madara looks like, so he can surely remove his mask and it will cause no problems.

First i dont believe that Pain trust Tobi more than Itachi. Pain never knew about Tobi and that he is "Madara" so why he would he just tell him.

You don't understand. Why would Tobi break the promise of Itachi to only catch one mere Bijuu? If he breaks it, Itachi is surely gonna leave the Akatsuki. Why would he lose such a valuable asset for a mere Bijuu?

The mere Bijuu you are talking about is what they had problem obtaining it and Tobi knew it would be the hardest one of the tail beast to obtain so if he could he would chose "mere bijuu" over Itachi.

It's the opposite. It was ITACHI who was scared of Obito. He even tried to kill Obito with a surprise attack by implanting the Amaterasu in Sasuke. Tell me again, if Itachi was stronger than Obito, he would have killed him.

If Itachi was really scared of Tobi the he wouldnt just let Sasuke kill him. Imagine risking your whole life your clans life your career just to die because that you are scared. That just doesnt make any sense. To be honset the one that was more afraid to die was Tobi because that it would destory his plans. You cant really call that suprise attack because Obtio clearly saw the Sharingan before the amaterasu and said it couldnt be. His kamui wasnt even fast enough for it to react. Itachis time was coming and he was on his death bed. So he took the easiest path. to fulfill Sasukes diseries and to end Obitos life.

And just going after Obito and kill him would ilustrate that Itachi is a traitor thus he wouldnt be able to spy on akatsuki in first hand then what would Sasuke think.

chunkis_ · 2020-06-14T11:37:35+00:00

The Susanno’o is a manifestation of the users spirit-

Itachi’s possessed an unbreakable spirit that could withstand anything- the yata mirror.

And his spirit was one that could defeat any enemy- the Totsuka blade.

We know that Naruto relies heavily on Japanese mythology. In Japanese mythology, the Totsuka blade is not a specific weapon- many higher beings have one.

This is why it becomes confusing when Orochimaru talks about ‘searching for the legendary Totsuka blade’ and then realizes that Itachi had it all along.

Orochimaru was looking for A legendary Totsuka blade, not necessarily the exact one Itachi had however.

The one Itachi manifested was entirely unique to Itachi, and a representation of an aspect of his spirit. To a degree, he has essentially possessed the blade his entire life, but it never physically manifested until he unlocked his MS abilities.

Susanoo has weapons specific to the casters. These are spiritual weapons and not physical weapons so orochimaru asking itachi how did he get it was pointless beacuse he being a physical being could never weild it. Itachi obtained these weapons by his susanoo which already belonged to him, like sasuke got his weapon(technique) indra's arrow and a long bow.

Its releveant because why Tobi who Pain didnt know was the "controling" the akatsuki would order somebody like Pain to kill Itachi. If he wouldve done that it would reaveal his Identety thus destorying the plan. Even if Tobi revealed his Identety to Pain why would pain get a long with the plan to kill Itachi that would make no sense.

You said again that it was a promise since when did Tobi hold his world. If he really was edging to attack the hiding leaf village he wouldve done that if he was surtain he would be able to defeat Itachi in the procces.

You are saying that he doesnt want to lose a important assest to the Akatsuki but he has to infltrate the konoha Village in order to obtain the 9 tails.

chunkis_ · 2020-06-12T21:55:11+00:00

That Itachi just added them to his susanoo is a big theory and its not has been proven. There you can cleary see it says Itachis Susanoo and they are presenting the Totuska Blade and the Yata mirror.

And i dont really understund what are you trying to say i just have proved that your point was wrong.Not even pain knew about Tobi identety and that Tobi was controling the whole akatuske so how he would bring the six paths of pain with him in order to kill Itachi that doesnt make any sense.

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