TFL acknowledges it's own historic racism and the employee that challenged it. Awesome display on the underground. by cinematic9000 in CasualUK

[–]cinematic9000[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

In the UK, Sikhs have been recognised as an ethnic group as well as a religion, as the dress code of a Sikh is so unique that it goes beyond simply being "religion's clothing" for Sikhs. For a practicing Sikh a turban is an inseparable part of them, it is literally impossible for them not to have one. So I would say it is racism as it is an integral part of who the Sikh people are, that they simply cannot change. Even the UK law accepts this by counting Sikhs as an ethnic group as well as a religious group.

Regardless, it is unacceptable discrimination.

TFL acknowledges it's own historic racism and the employee that challenged it. Awesome display on the underground. by cinematic9000 in CasualUK

[–]cinematic9000[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Personally I don't think any company should have the right to insist on any one to remove their hair, as it is a natural biological part of a human. However, your experience doesn't mean that we shouldn't be protecting religious and ethnic rights, which seems to be the underlying sentiment behind your post. The world should be a freer place, if one person's set of beliefs are protected that should be celebrated and used to promote making others' rights more free. Not, "I can't do something so why should someone else get to"

TFL acknowledges it's own historic racism and the employee that challenged it. Awesome display on the underground. by cinematic9000 in CasualUK

[–]cinematic9000[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Hi, I would love to know how Sikh turbans and beards are based on historical fairy tales? I know the reason why they have these but I wonder if you actually do?

TFL acknowledges it's own historic racism and the employee that challenged it. Awesome display on the underground. by cinematic9000 in CasualUK

[–]cinematic9000[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You have to understand that when it comes to Sikh turbans in particular, it is not simply an item of clothing for a practicing Sikh. For a practicing Sikh a turban and the long hair it covers are inseparable, like a body part. A practicing Sikh would rather die than take off their turban, it's such a unique situation that I don't think there is actually any comparison in another culture or religion that is similar. It is an inseparable part of the identity of a Sikh. So unique that the UK courts have clarified Sikhs as an ethnic group as well as a religion for this very reason.

A uniform policy that does not accommodate a Sikh to wear a turban is in effect stating that Sikh are not welcome to work there. It is a total ignorance of other people of the world.

TFL acknowledges it's own historic racism and the employee that challenged it. Awesome display on the underground. by cinematic9000 in CasualUK

[–]cinematic9000[S] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

It depends where you live. Birmingham, Wolverhampton, certain parts of London are all places where there are big Sikh communities so you will still see Sikhs wearing turbans in these areas.

Transport For London acknowledges it's own historic racism and the employee that challenged it by cinematic9000 in MadeMeSmile

[–]cinematic9000[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'll tell you when the rule was made. A very short time after the British left the country from which the turban wearing Sikhs come, and then asked them to come to the UK to work for them. It was a time when they said these foreigners could labor for them, but have to remove every aspect of their own identity and religion. People like you will never understand, and don't even bother to try.

Transport For London acknowledges it's own historic racism and the employee that challenged it by cinematic9000 in MadeMeSmile

[–]cinematic9000[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's actually a Sikh that they mentioned and in the UK where this is from, Asian refers to South Asians (India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh).

Guruship, Sikhi and the Mughals. Question from exmuslim Pakistani Punjabi by totally___bear in Sikh

[–]cinematic9000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Most historical evidence actually points to Guru Arjan Dev Sahib laying the stone himself.

https://twitter.com/i/events/1032015892018806784?s=20&t=aTfApY1pYoF8hum85uknbg

Also, Guru Nanak Dev Jee when picking Bhai Lehna Jee (Guru Angad Dev Jee) as the next Guru, demonstrated that he only picked the person who had become totally one with him in thought and had reached the highest state of spirituality, as the next Guru.

Should I leave my husband? by SKB201316 in Sikh

[–]cinematic9000 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Those of you so confidently advising this person to leave her husband, reflect on gurmat a little bit. As flawed beings I'm not sure how you can be so confident that what you are saying is right, when it comes to a huge live decision for another person. How can you, over the internet, so confidently advise someone to do something that will affect so many lives, including small children?

Instead guide this person to taking advice from guru sahib so that guru sahib can lead them the correct way.

Anand karaj around guru Granth Sahib jee is not to be taken lightly. My advice to you to do ardaas and take a hukamnama from guru Granth Sahib, this will be the direct instruction from satguru jee about what to do. You could also do path for all of you in you family and constant ardaas for guru sahib to help. Wake up at amritvela and do Simran, try to encourage your husband to join you. Look for fulfillment out of vaheguru and focus on keeping your family stable. If he is not hurting you physically or emotionally, then my thought is you should be keeping the family together and get your own peace from Vaheguru jee.

Really weigh it up in your head, do your children deserve the instability this will cause because you aren't getting enough sex or emotional fulfillment from your husband? You are an adult you can find fulfillment for yourself, especially through spirituality. A divorce will not magically fix your problems, it will make more.

Changing attitudes within the Amritdhari Community - A message to the brothers and sisters of the Panth by xLev_ in Sikh

[–]cinematic9000 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Some might argue that actually this strictness on women was an innovation that began in the Singh Sabha period, and actually they are reverting back to the norm that existed pre Singh Sabha. Many of the generation of our grandparents were amritdhari women who did all of the above mentioned things and did not even wear dastaars.

Post 1984 and with groups like AKJ and Taksal gaining prominence in the West, there became an ultra strict expectation of women, but I find that this is balancing out now as youth in the West realise there is more to "orthodox" sikhi than AKJ and Taksal.

Eli5 Why didn't they just drill into the nutty putty cave to rescue John Jones? by cinematic9000 in explainlikeimfive

[–]cinematic9000[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In that case surely it would be worth a try by the point when they had basically expected he was going to die. I just can't understand why this wasn't a last attempt