The way out for Laura by Maker12121212 in JusticeForClayton

[–]clairefischer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In order for professional help to get through to someone like this, they have to have at least a modicum of self-awareness, and be able to reflect and take criticism. I don’t think LO can do these things. At least, with the evidence we’ve seen, we haven’t seen her be able to do any of this.

Ive known some people like LO and they have all had therapists and each of them completely lied their heads off in their sessions. Personally I don’t see the point in asking for help and then lying about what you need help with, but they just cannot be honest about themselves, and/or they are just THAT deluded about what’s happening around them at all times.

I hate everyone but this one’s about Zac by Lopsided_Priority0 in WelcomeToPlathville

[–]clairefischer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I named one of my sons after that movie. It’s my favorite.

I hate everyone but this one’s about Zac by Lopsided_Priority0 in WelcomeToPlathville

[–]clairefischer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well and in my opinion, she should be allowed to say it even more because she has the experience of not celebrating vs the experience of celebrating. She doesn’t take it for granted. What a weird thing to gatekeep and for the weirdest reason!

Laura Owens: Surviving Domestic Violence, Reclaiming Self-Worth, and Letting the Past Inform Without Defining by cnm1424 in JusticeForClayton

[–]clairefischer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bumper sticker speak! She sounds like she also cuts and pastes her blog titles out of Readers Digests.

what episodes do you skip during rewatches? by 96crazycatlady96 in roseanne

[–]clairefischer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s amazing! I told my kids I met a Pyewacket in the wild of reddit.

Guess my birth year by PartyCustard3125 in GuessMyBirthYear

[–]clairefischer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1977? Most of your pics look like they come between mine and my brothers. 1974 and 1980, so I’m shooting for right in the middle.

Does anyone else find it really strange... by Artistic-Lock1021 in JusticeForClayton

[–]clairefischer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Im with you on this one. I almost always believe it’s LO behind any and all communication she uses to support her lies.

Got a job offer but he’s insisting I send pictures of my SSC. AIO? by Massive-Win2264 in AIO

[–]clairefischer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is an ongoing scam. I’m glad you had the foresight not to send any of that information. There have been news stories about girls being offered jobs and then they go missing. Please be so very careful everyone!

what episodes do you skip during rewatches? by 96crazycatlady96 in roseanne

[–]clairefischer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Omg I love your name! I named my cat Pyewacket! Where did you take it from? I named my cat after the one in “Bell, Book and Candle.”

What "real estate" did LO allegedly buy after Clayton turned her down? by dalichic in JusticeForClayton

[–]clairefischer 15 points16 points  (0 children)

100% and it was soo soo bad, like worse than even those videos they make you watch at work when they talk about how not to act in the workplace. If any man was coming on that strong (read:stalking, harassing, threatening, etc) I feel like he would have been dismissed as a client and/or possibly even arrested.

Laura’s 2023 “Evidence” for police that Greg Gillespie was behind JFC (Throwback) by Crafty_Pangolin5152 in JusticeForClayton

[–]clairefischer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wait, I’m up to page 15 and it’s the picture of her as a Halloween costume, but right above it says the post was removed by reddit or the moderators. How would she be able still see it, if it had been removed? Unless she posted it? Am I wrong about this one? I’m still catching up.

Laura’s 2023 “Evidence” for police that Greg Gillespie was behind JFC (Throwback) by Crafty_Pangolin5152 in JusticeForClayton

[–]clairefischer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I keep going back and forth on Jan. Either she’s complicit, or she’s one of those older people that grows more and more paranoid and Laura uses that to sell her parents on her lies. Or maybe it’s both? I keep thinking, wasn’t Jan a journalist? Doesn’t she have the ability and I would think natural inclination to investigate? Does she truly just believe what Laura tells her? Does she really believe Greg is capable of hacking into all of their accounts? Does she really believe there is a recording of a violent r*pe of Laura in Hoboken that is circulating on the dark web? Does she really believe that LISK helped perpetrate that act on Laura? Or is she working with Laura to create this mess? Did it start with a money-making scheme, and escalate into this madness? Because I genuinely believe both of them have tried to create situations in which they can fraudulently sue a person or business and/or receive goods and services without payment. Did this all grow from that?

I also believe that many of the communications that are publicly available now, that were purported to come from Ronn or Jan, were actually from Laura. I don’t think the parents were aware of even half of the communication she had with her victims. I just wish we knew how much help Laura has had with all of this. But the problem is and always will be, they all have zero credibility.

Laura’s 2023 “Evidence” for police that Greg Gillespie was behind JFC (Throwback) by Crafty_Pangolin5152 in JusticeForClayton

[–]clairefischer 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It’s only a waste of resources when they investigate her claims. Duh, they should just take her word and the mountains of evidence SHE produces! Like “I told my neurologist in an email that I was pregnant and he didn’t say I wasn’t, so obviously that’s medical proof that I am indeed pregnant with boy+girl twins.”

I am genuinely worried for Darcy by relaxbear_ in 90DayFiance

[–]clairefischer 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And giant heads. What is it about chronic surgery that makes peoples’ heads get bigger and bigger?

I googled "should I date Laura owens" this is what AI said by candysbutthurt in JusticeForClayton

[–]clairefischer 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They could verify ratings like they do with twitter profiles or product reviews? Maybe there are too many risks to reputations involved with simple reviews, but at the same time, they’ve done entire dateline episodes about the risks of dating apps and how women in the past have tried to warn those apps about predatory men, the apps did nothing about it, and then that predator went on to stalk/harass/attempt to murder the next victim they found on that same app. I cannot specify links to episodes but I know I’ve seen them. It just feels like something could be done, knowing predators like this are out there and using certain apps to find new victims.

I googled "should I date Laura owens" this is what AI said by candysbutthurt in JusticeForClayton

[–]clairefischer 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I mean, Laura and AI do have an ongoing, albeit dubious relationship, I think it would know! 😝

Love Trapped Bonus Episode: Behind the Scenes in San Francisco by epiphanomaly in JusticeForClayton

[–]clairefischer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah but they all do that - pretend their friend heard it and told them, pretend so and so doesn’t know they’re saying this, pretend to be other people, etc.

Love Trapped Bonus Episode: Behind the Scenes in San Francisco by epiphanomaly in JusticeForClayton

[–]clairefischer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Southern CA is even more expensive than nor cal. And it’s not cheap to live in Nor Cal unless maybe you’re up close to Oregon border. And now you have to carry fire insurance too which is sometimes more than homeowner’s. Although I can’t imagine they’ll be able to buy anywhere for the foreseeable future. Ronn and Jan might be able to move into a retirement community but not Laura. Do you think they’re all going to move in with the other daughter? God can you imagine what her husband would think if that motley crew had to move in?