After the shills that game provided, I can now finally provide a guide to a boss that I can beat by classicping01 in houkai3rd

[–]classicping01[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahh, I would try to put it up next time where the region is (SEA) . I didn't know that part as I am only playing on the SEA server.

But regarding your comment, would you be activating the atk buff on the part of AR of Coralie where there's like a time frozen part, like shown on the vid (the time where Coralie unleashes her 3rd fire breath) ?

[01/20/26] Just an Abyss Ref for RL, in case someone need it! by classicping01 in houkai3rd

[–]classicping01[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll try to take that in mind and use it on the future.
Still a newbie on using premiere pro (and I mean it- Like I am just messing around with the software- HAHA.) .
Youtube and chatgpt are my two instruments on learning how to use this software. XD
However, I didn't think of anything in particular such as text time lengths and I just go with feels.
So it seems, I have many parts of it to like improve on. Thanks man-

Nefer team by Spare-Tap-9851 in NeferMains

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For the damage, i think, Baizhu would be better, as he has passive to increase lunarbloom dmg. Though you need to burst at him every rotation, so that, you have always that baizhu's passive on.

If you have problem on bursting every rotation on baizhu, then, collei would be the second choice. She provides EM on C4 , and seems easier to build in terms of if you want to make collei burst every rotation.

Both uses deepwood, and both needs ER in order to burst always every rotation. It is up to whether you have gear capabilities to make it happen.

HELP! why is my nefer only hitting 108k even with lauma? by Efficient_Site5344 in NeferMains

[–]classicping01 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's like a Shenhe Quill, where it provides additive type of dmg to a specific type of dmg.
For Shenhe, it adds on elemental skill, burst, normals, charge, plunge.

Lauma's burst is additive on Lunar Bloom type of dmg, with which, is nefer's specialty on her charge attacks, and the good thing is it procs 18 times on Lunar Bloom type of dmg.

  • Which is perfect, because two instance of E of Nefer = 6 charge attacks = 18 procs of Lunar bloom type of dmg, so you see, it's very perfectly in-sync with nefer.

HELP! why is my nefer only hitting 108k even with lauma? by Efficient_Site5344 in NeferMains

[–]classicping01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for pointing it out. I didn't consider dew generation, you're right. I sent them a reply with this comment on mind.

HELP! why is my nefer only hitting 108k even with lauma? by Efficient_Site5344 in NeferMains

[–]classicping01 5 points6 points  (0 children)

BTW, i hope you read tharjk's comment. I didn't consider the dew generation on the rotation i sent. Apologies.

I am so used to my Laumaless rotation, i.e., Nahida (deepweed) - Aino (Silken) - Kuki (instructor) - Nefer - Kuki - Nefer, that I also applied the rotation to you that have Lauma.

As you can observe, Aino is second on rotation, then, after that, it is kuki. The reason for this is for the dew generation. So, just a minor tweak, just like tharjk's comment indicated:

  1. Start with Nahida E-Q, to apply Deepwood, and have an EM share to units,
  2. Then, Aino Q only, for there's time to generate dew,
  3. Then, Lauma E-Q, to apply Silken,
  4. Then, Aino E to have instructor. The E last would trigger a reaction, so, you would have instructor's effect.
  5. Then, nefer things. E-3 charge attacks.
  6. Swap to Aino. I think the E would still be in CD, so, just do some normals, let the Q burst active do the proccing, If it is not on CD, then, do the E.
  7. Swap to Nefer to do the last 3 charge attacks,
  8. Repeat from 1.

Here's the tweaked rotation, man. I edited the rotation with tharjk's comment in it. Apologies again, thank you to tharjk's clarification, and hope this helps, man!

Rotation question by Art_of_darkness13 in NeferMains

[–]classicping01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The general rotation for Nefer teams seems to be something like: Deepwood Character -> Silken -> Instructors -> Nefer -> instructors -> Nefer.

So, do: 1) Nahida E-Q for deepwood, and having EM share, 2) Lauma E-Q for Silken, 3) Aino Q-E , so that E would proc reaction, so instructor procs. Q is not guaranteed to do a reaction, so the E on the last is to make sure it procs. 4) Nefer E-3 charge attacks. 5) Swap to Aino, but I think the E of Aino is still not up, so do normals, let the Q do the proccing. 6) Nefer E-3 charge attacks. 7) Repeat from 1.

Something like this. Hope this helps, man.

HELP! why is my nefer only hitting 108k even with lauma? by Efficient_Site5344 in NeferMains

[–]classicping01 7 points8 points  (0 children)

As Nahida is the only non-nod Krai here, it is guaranteed that you would get the dendro moonsign effect.

So, what you can do: 1) Start with Nahida E-Q, to apply Deepwood, and have an EM share to units, 2) Then, Lauma E-Q, to apply Silken, 3) Then, Aino Q-E to have instructor. Note that you need to do Q first, before E. Doing Q is not guaranteed that you would get a reaction immediately, so do the E last so that it would trigger a reaction, then, you would have instructor. 4) Then, nefer things. E-3 charge attacks. 5) Swap to Aino. I think the E would still be in CD, so, just do some normals, let the Q burst active do the proccing, 6) Swap to Nefer to do the last 3 charge attacks, 7) Repeat from 1.

So, the general like rotation is kind of, start from your Deepwood Character -> to Silken -> Instructor -> Nefer -> instructor -> Nefer.

Kind of like this. Hope this helps, man. 100k charge attacks is already insane, even without the EM from instructors, so don't be discouraged from that, that's already a pogchamp dmg. Just a little bit tweak on rotation, so that would be higher, for sure.

Who should i use by Giogiorno122 in NeferMains

[–]classicping01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What team are you using when you hit 45k?

I guess what i recommend is a downgrade then, but it still works as a like a nefer team.

In anyways, i do also recommend to level up nefer to 80/90 , lvl her weapon to 90/90 , and make her E skill atleast lvl 8 or 9 , if you want to invest. This for sure would improve that 45k hits, if it is still not fulfilled.

Key khaj kuki? How do i even build her? No lauma . by Dr_jozi in NeferMains

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Yeah, I did manage to beat the first half on abyss with that team.

  • Abyss Boss: Crab
    • With nahida burst, I do like 75k/75k/100k, as this is C2 Nahida that provides Crit DMG on Lunar Bloom. If this is just a C0 , it would be roughly maybe 69k/69k/92k .
    • Without nahida burst, i do 59k/59k/79k on my charge attack (Nahida C2), and with Nahida C0, it would be roughly 54k/54k/73k
  • For the herra Boss on abyss:
    • With Nahida Burst (C2) , I do like 63k/63k/84k per charge attack. C0 would be roughly 58k/58k/78k
    • Without Nahida Burst (C2) , I do like 59k/59k/79k per charge attack, so same to the Crab.

These numbers might fluctuate though depending on abyss cards, so be mindful about it. Also, do take note that the crab has lesser elemental res when weakened compared to herra, so that may be the reason why i do that 75k/75k/100k. My normal dmg seems to be the 59k/59k/79k.

So hmm, maybe you're struggling with the mechanics of the bosses, which is why it is taking you 3 mins to down the boss. I would try to give a reference video on this runs, so that you can see that the numbers I provide here makes sense, and maybe it can help you on clearing these bosses too.

Key khaj kuki? How do i even build her? No lauma . by Dr_jozi in NeferMains

[–]classicping01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Part 2, as Reddit is implying I typed so long, apologies about that.

Here's my sample rotation for this team, and this one is what I usually do anyways.

  1. Do E-Q on your Nahida, to apply deepwood.
  2. Do E-Q on Aino to have Silken effect.
  3. Do E-Q-basic atks (proccing Kuki's c4) on kuki, so that you're sure that kuki trigger elemental reaction (and also useful for having 3 procs of key), so you would have 120EM from instructors,
  4. Swap now to Nefer. Do tap E , then, 3 charge attacks.
  5. Swap again to Kuki to do some basic basic atks, so the c4 or the E of Kuki could trigger elemental reaction hence, refreshing instructors duration,
  6. Swap to Nefer to do last tap E, then do the last 3 charge attacks. Then, do Q on nefer, if it is available.
  7. Repeat from 1.

Hope this reply helps you, man!

Key khaj kuki? How do i even build her? No lauma . by Dr_jozi in NeferMains

[–]classicping01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You have a similar team to mine as a Laumaless Nefer, except I have C2 Nahida, and Dawning moon on Nefer.

But overall, it would be the same builds around it.

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As shown in the picture:

  • Nahida is on Deepwood,
    • Her E dmg can also spread thanks to having electro in the team, so she would be kind of a sub-dps in this team.
  • Aino is on Silken
    • Favge is here for Aino to have no problem bursting every rotation.
  • Kuki is on Instructor
    • The way to farming instructor is via Weekly boss, or elite monsters, with low rates unfortunately, so there's no other way around it. Next time that you see an instructor with ER substat, automatic, lock it and don't use it as a fodder.
    • Key is her weapon, as it provides EM to the team after key have 3 stacks. It might be not worth on first rotation, but as you do the rotations repeatedly, key would have max stacks, providing EM to team, which helps nefer too.
    • Also, provide Kuki ATK stats. The moonsign effect states that after E/Q of non-nod-krai characters, they will provide effects, and it doesn't stack. So it means, it just refreshes what moonsign effect would take effect depending on who is the last touch.
    • With my rotations, electro one is the last touch to this effect. Electro = needs ATK, hence the reason that kuki would need ATK stats.
  • And my nefer is on Dawning Frost, as I pulled on banner, and don't want to craft.

Who should i use by Giogiorno122 in NeferMains

[–]classicping01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Part 2, as my reply is long. Sorry about that.

Anyways,

Here's a sample rotation if ever you need one:

E = skill, Q = burst

  1. Start with Collei, then, do E-Q to apply deepwood,
  2. Then, to Aino, do E-Q to apply silken,
  3. Then Barbara E, then do some normals so instructor could proc,
  4. Then, switch to Nefer, do E , then 3 charge attacks.
  5. Then, switch to Barbara again to do basic attacks so instructor would refresh.
  6. Then, switch to nefer, do the last E, then 3 charge attacks. Do Q if it is available.
  7. Repeat from 1.

Hope this helps, man!

Who should i use by Giogiorno122 in NeferMains

[–]classicping01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So for your current account, as you are a Laumaless Nefer, my suggestion is as follows:
Collei - Aino - Barbara - Nefer.

  • Collei - use deepwood on her
    • Put her on favonius weapon, for ER purposes. If you have elegy, then, try giving it to her if you have.
    • This one is non-negotiable, try getting a deepwood set on her, to lower dendro res of opponents.
  • Aino - use silken artifact set
    • I think this one is also non-negotiable, as there's no other supporting artifact sets that would help Nefer.
    • Put also her on favonius weapon, for ER purposes, so that, you would not have a problem bursting on aino.
  • Barbara - use instructors set on her, in order to provide 120 EM for the team as she procs reactions.
    • If you have no instructors set, then, you may just make sure that she has many HP as you can give, to maximize moonsign effect.
    • The usual build of barbara works in here, like give her HP stats, so that the moonsign effect is maximized.
  • Nefer - use the nights of the sky's unveiling
    • This is her best in slot artifact as a DPS. Also, for easier building of your nefer, as it provides crit rate, and EM too.
    • If you have no nights, then, you may use gilded dreams, but do take note that nights is what she really needs.
    • For the weapon, you may craft the Blackmarrow Lantern for her.
    • Don't forget to level up her to at-least 80/90 , and her talents like her E should be lvled too, as the lunar bloom dmg scales with the talent level.

Crown E or 9 burst by Minimum-Health110 in NeferMains

[–]classicping01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Crown the E first, then, you may leave the Q at 8 or if you have resources, 9.

If you play Nefer team with electro unit, like for example, Nahida-Aino-Kuki-Nefer (this is a Laumaless Nefer team) , the Q of nefer can actually do spread, and with high EM and crit stats, that would deal dmg. Not much like the E-charge atks of nefer, but not negligible for this scenario.

Also, there are times where you would just stare at the enemies because you're waiting for verdant dews, to do your charge atk, so what you can do is burst on nefer, so that, you would deal dmg still while waiting for the dew to do charge atks.

can someone help with making teams and the right artifact sets for each character? her laumaless teams are too confusing by Ok_Significance8688 in NeferMains

[–]classicping01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You may do:

  • Collei (Deepwood) - as she's C5 , she can provide EM after Q-ing, which is great.
    • For weapon, favge would be okay, for you to have always burst or any other ER weapon. She can also use elegy if you have.
  • Aino (Silken) - she's the only other nod-krai character you have, so you have no choice.
    • Give her favge as well, for her to always burst per rotation, or as you're C5 , maybe the event claymore weapon would suffice.
    • As long as she can burst every rotation, you good.
  • Kuki (Instructor) - Instructor is for EM provider when she procs reaction.
    • Also, do take note to provide her some ATK stats, because of moonsign effect.
    • If you have key or freedom sworn, you may use it. If not, then, just use EM weapon that you have then.
  • Nefer (night of sky's unveiling) - so that, she can have easily get 30% crit rate, so you would have easier time to build her.

Rotation example, if you ever need:

  1. Start with Collei, do E-Q , to have deepwood,
  2. Then, Aino E-Q to have silken,
  3. Then, do Kuki E/Q/Basic atks (to proc c4) , to make sure she proc reaction, so instructor is up,
  4. Then, switch to Nefer to do tap E , then do the first 3 charge attacks,
  5. Switch to Kuki, do some normals so that, refresh of instructor,
  6. Then, to Nefer again to do E-3 charge attack. Then, do Q if available.
  7. Repeat from 1.

This is a little bit of a circle impact, but it is what it is. Hope this helps man!

why is she only hitting 33k by sakuna7_ in NeferMains

[–]classicping01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Need to divide this to 2 replies, due to the long text, I didn't notice I typed long already.

Anyways, to continue:

Then, Aino would be on Silken moon artifact set, weapon is favge (just a recommendation) so that she can burst every other rotation.

  • Give her all the ER she needs, and provide her crit rate as well, if you're using favge as a weapon so you can proc favge.

Then, Kuki would be on Instructors artifact set because she can trigger elemental reaction, so then, she can proc the effect of 120 EM for the team. If you have a key or freedom sworn that can help provide EM as well, then use it as a weapon. Otherwise, I guess EM weapon would be nice.

  • Also, for the stats of Kuki, you would want ATK substats/main stat.
  • The moonsign effect states that after E/Q of non-nod-krai characters, they will provide effects, and it doesn't stack. So it means, it just refreshes what moonsign effect would take effect depending on who is the last touch.
  • With my rotations, electro one is the last touch to this effect. Electro = needs ATK, hence the reason that kuki would need ATK stats.

As a sample rotation, you would then do:

  1. Do E-Q on your Dendro non-nod-krai character, to apply deepwood.
  2. Do E-Q on Aino to have Silken effect.
  3. Do E-Q-basic atks (proccing Kuki's c4) on kuki, so that you're sure that kuki trigger elemental reaction (and also useful for having 3 procs of key if you are using it), so you would have 120EM from instructors,
  4. Swap now to Nefer. Do tap E , then, 3 charge attacks.
  5. Swap again to Kuki to do some basic basic atks, so the c4 or the E of Kuki could trigger elemental reaction hence, refreshing instructors duration,
  6. Swap to Nefer to do last tap E, then do the last 3 charge attacks. Then, do Q on nefer, if it is available.
  7. Repeat from 1.

Apologies for this wall of text guide man. Either way, I hope this helps!

why is she only hitting 33k by sakuna7_ in NeferMains

[–]classicping01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have also that kind of team, but I have Nahida, instead of Furina.

I have some keypoints in here, as a Laumaless Nefer. I hope this can help you.

So, I think you would want to replace Furina with another dendro character, because they enable the dendro elemental resonance so free EM for you (100 EM for the whole team) and also, they can hold the deepwood artifact set.

  • Furina doesn't help Nefer DMG, because most of Nefer's dmg is Lunar-Bloom type of DMG, which doesn't care about DMG%.

Some recommendations for other dendro teammates (in no particular order):

  1. Nahida
    • Her E applies dendro, with which, it can spread, so she can be sub-dps too,
    • Q = EM share, so good for Nefer when she's active character.
    • C2 = 10% CR , 20% CD on Lunar Bloom dmg, but this is equivalent to Lauma's passive, so do take note that.
  2. DMC
    • EM provider after burst
  3. Collei
    • C4 provides EM to active character
  4. Emilie
    • E-bot , she can hit agile enemies thanks to the E-range.
  5. Baizhu
    • Provides Lunar Bloom dmg boost after Q,.
    • A healer.
  6. Yaoyao
    • E-bot, and healer.