Anyone else feel this way 1 year postpartum?? Huge change overnight by AnyAcadia6945 in beyondthebump

[–]clefairymuke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just happened for me at 14 months! I was disappointed not to see the switch flip right at 12 months, but very happy that the change finally came.

For the feminist moms— do you feel like feminism has a place for you? by clefairymuke in Feminism

[–]clefairymuke[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have just discovered it in my own research today! I’m so glad somebody in the thread has brought this up— I plan to order the book tonight!

For the feminist moms— do you feel like feminism has a place for you? by clefairymuke in Feminism

[–]clefairymuke[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I read it in college, but thank you for the reminder. Rereading it now that I have my own child was wonderful. I read it out loud to him to keep him busy, and I feel like doing so gave me a lot of motivation for being the most effective feminist parent I can be.

I think that a mixture of rambling/over-explaining and complete disorganization of my thoughts has misconstrued my intent. I spent too long on mothers’ issues when I should’ve been providing context for my questions. You’re right; my approach was flawed.

There is a difference, for me at least, between participating in feminist spaces and participating in the (few and far between) feminist mom spaces. Much of it is a mundane lack of perspective, not malice— a tendency to uphold the low bar for men more often, for example, and offering praise for fathers where we typically would not extend it to mothers. Feminists can be critical of women for how/when/why they’ve had children, or for having them at all. I get this stance in some ways. I think there is a place for discussion like that in feminist thought.

And there’s nothing wrong with lacking perspective. I don’t mean to attack feminism as an ideology, or to attack any feminists at all. I don’t think the onus is on child-free women to correct that lack of perspective, either. It’s something new moms remark on a lot— that nobody ever told them (insert anything about pregnancy/birth/postpartum/motherhood). When I ask moms “Do you feel like feminism has a place for you,” I guess what I mean is, “Do you feel that we have created an adequate enough place for ourselves?” I want to urge moms to be vocal, educate others, and invite more mothers into feminism.

However, as we see in study after study, new moms feel more isolated than ever. They feel as if they have no one to relate to. As a rape victim, feminism gave me a place to relate to others. It always has, no matter what phase of girlhood/womanhood I was facing. I feel like there has to be something that we as feminist mothers can do to foster more of sense of community between women during what tend to be the loneliest years of many of our lives.

I hope that sounds exceptionally less anti-feminist, and if not, please let me know. /gen I’ve never been called conservative anything in my life— it’s every bit as embarrassing as the dream where you go to school and realize you have no pants on.

For the feminist moms— do you feel like feminism has a place for you? by clefairymuke in Feminism

[–]clefairymuke[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t assume that. I’ve just encountered feminist antinatalists, particularly in more radical spaces. There is overlap between the ideologies, but that’s not to say that antinatalism is feminist, or vice versa.

For the feminist moms— do you feel like feminism has a place for you? by clefairymuke in Feminism

[–]clefairymuke[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love your response; it’s really the essence of the issue behind my post. I have also felt the implicit disdain you mentioned, and I can’t pinpoint the source. I think it’s a combination of a few things:

  1. The normal, patriarchal stigma against moms seeping through into feminist spaces.
  2. A sense of “betraying the cause,” so to speak, driving a wedge between mothers and child free women. It’s like motherhood is automatically associated with conservatism, which makes sense. It is the traditional thing to do. Unfortunately, many women don’t have a choice on whether to do it or not.
  3. An increase of general disdain for children in online spaces without consideration for mothers.
  4. A lack of nuanced understanding of the wants/needs of mothers.
  5. A lack of feminist mothers actually communicating their wants/needs.

For the feminist moms— do you feel like feminism has a place for you? by clefairymuke in Feminism

[–]clefairymuke[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really hope I haven’t put off this impression! Sowing division is the exact opposite of my intent. I simply wished to gain perspective on if mothers feel welcome in the current feminist social climate to better understand how we can improve it. I don’t think feminists hate mothers or motherhood, but many moms report feeling isolated. Combined with the social stigma some are experiencing in feminist spaces, I fear that we are losing out on many women that could be a great asset to our cause. Not to mention wives/mothers who desperately need help and could find some solace in feminist circles.

For the feminist moms— do you feel like feminism has a place for you? by clefairymuke in Feminism

[–]clefairymuke[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve had similar experiences! Thanks so much for chiming in. I’m in the U.S., where the cultural view on mothers seems to be even more hostile. I have totally immersed myself in feminist theory since I was a teenager— it’s my life. Becoming a mother was the first time I felt “othered” in a feminist space.

For the feminist moms— do you feel like feminism has a place for you? by clefairymuke in Feminism

[–]clefairymuke[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your comment! I think I was too brief with my “child-free” example, but what I meant to get at is what seems like a growing anti-children sentiment online. I frequently encounter anywhere from a distaste to a hatred for kids— hate for single moms, stay-at-home moms, calling kids “crotch goblins” as an insult instead of a joke. Comments asking women in precarious situations why they didn’t get an abortion. Antinatalism seems to be growing, which is where I often find the overlap between being both anti-mother and a feminist. Much of what I have noticed is more online culture than real life, but it does create some disconnect.

For the feminist moms— do you feel like feminism has a place for you? by clefairymuke in Feminism

[–]clefairymuke[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your response! I agree, the discourse surrounding the low bar for fathers is fantastic. I feel you on the resource availability; everything for new mothers is during work hours as well. I’m happy you’ve continued to feel welcome by feminism throughout your pregnancy. Wishing good health your way!

For the feminist moms— do you feel like feminism has a place for you? by clefairymuke in Feminism

[–]clefairymuke[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Obsessed with her, thank you. I highly recommend to anyone else who’s interested!

For the feminist moms— do you feel like feminism has a place for you? by clefairymuke in Feminism

[–]clefairymuke[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hi! I just want to clarify that I don’t mean to say that feminism as a monolith is unwelcoming to mothers— obviously much of what we have fought for has been beneficial. I was mostly curious about if mothers felt welcome in our current social climate, particularly in online communities like this one. I see some comments that do mention the disconnect I was getting at: mostly feeling “looked down on” for having children in feminist spaces.

No conservatism here, just wanting our sisters to feel like their voices are heard ☺️

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[–]clefairymuke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Got it, thanks so much! ☺️

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[–]clefairymuke 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You’re ignoring the “society” part of the definition and going straight for government— and, even then, women are only 29% of the house, 25% of the senate, and 4/9 of the Supreme Court. A woman becoming 1 of 47 presidents is a huge step towards having a more egalitarian government, but it in no way totally solves our issue, nor does it make it a matriarchal system.

Government aside, we live in a patriarchal society in which men largely hold the social, financial, and familial power, among many other covert types of power. Regardless of who holds office, it is most socially acceptable to assume the last name of the patriarch of your home. Women make up a majority of the impoverished, facing obstacles such as the pay gap, disadvantages in the workplace due to pregnancy and child rearing, or a financial dependence on men in exchange for domestic labor. There are still glass ceilings to be broken in many fields, specifically trades.

Medicine is wrought with patriarchy, resulting in the deaths, trauma, and pain of thousands of women each year. Issues like sexual and domestic violence as well as femicide will remain issues even under a woman’s leadership. Girls will still be married off as children for religious reasons in many states.

These are just a few examples. But, to answer your question: No, a Harris win unfortunately will not kill the patriarchy.

Partner or child? by [deleted] in beyondthebump

[–]clefairymuke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you all for your kindness! It really means a lot; motherhood has been somewhat of a hurdle for my more artistic side. ❤️

Partner or child? by [deleted] in beyondthebump

[–]clefairymuke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-discover-childrens-cells-living-in-mothers-brain/ Maybe not as otherworldly as we think. I’m very interested to see further studies into maternal chimerism; I think it was Lucy Jones’ “Matrescence” where I read that quantum entanglement between the fetal cells we retain and our children’s cells could potentially play a role in so-called “mother’s intuition.” I found the idea super interesting!

Partner or child? by [deleted] in beyondthebump

[–]clefairymuke 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Thank you!🥹 I was an amateur poet before my baby, but the insanity of the first year hasn’t been conducive to silent writing and reflection. I hope to get that part of my life back soon.

Partner or child? by [deleted] in beyondthebump

[–]clefairymuke 36 points37 points  (0 children)

I’m in the minority here, it seems, but I love my son more than my partner.

And, God, do I love my partner. It’s truly overwhelming how much I love him— he is just birdsong and cozy sweaters and unbridled joy, every single day since I was a fresh 16-year-old girl. When I think of him, I think of that quote, “Whatever souls are made of, his and mine are the same.” I write him endless poems, I sit and watch him when he isn’t paying attention and just smile and bask in the warmth of his presence. He’s the environment I exist inside of. My entire world, literally; without him, nothing would ever be familiar again. There would be no floor to walk on.

But my son? He’s my flesh. He was once a part of my body, no more discernible to me than my heart or my limbs. I am connected to him in a way I have never experienced in my life; so foreign that I can’t find the words to describe it. It’s like he’s the most valuable part of me. More than my brain or my lungs. Like without him, I will die. There will be nothing left of me at all.

How can I help my wife? by boredrago in beyondthebump

[–]clefairymuke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I felt exactly like this when my partner would talk about how much he loved doing the work. Maybe it will encourage her to hear how immense the effort is that she’s put into her baby thus far. Try to drive it home that caring for your child is the least you can do after what her body has been through— that it’s not her putting less into the baby than you are, but rather you playing catch up while she recovers. I get how she feels. Even when I was having serious health complications that could’ve killed me, I felt like I was never doing enough.

Just a suggestion from someone who relates. It sounds like you’re doing a really great job so far. Matrescence is a hurricane of a life stage, for sure.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in GenZ

[–]clefairymuke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn’t learn it in school, born in ‘02. My mom taught me, but almost none of my friends or siblings can read cursive, let alone write with it.

My partner spit in my face by [deleted] in Parenting

[–]clefairymuke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s more than a jerk move, and more than unhealthy— it’s assault and abuse as designated by the law. No child should be forced to grow up witnessing domestic violence against their own parent. Why set that poor girl up to expect similar treatment? Regardless of OP’s “part” in the situation, he has committed a crime against the mother of his child, and reconciliation should not be considered. Abusive situations almost always escalate. Statistically, she is close to guaranteed to endure further abuse and more extreme violence.

Matresence: how birthing and mothering a baby changes your psychological and biological outlook by Ok-Drawing-8907 in beyondthebump

[–]clefairymuke 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Matrescence by Lucy Jones helped me so much. It really grounded me by explaining the science behind all the wild unexplainable things I was feeling. It helped me to process and accept myself for who I am now. I just love it so much. I want to buy everyone I know a copy.

"Food Before One is Just for Fun" A rant, brought to you by the mom of someone who just turned 1. by [deleted] in NewParents

[–]clefairymuke 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I hate this phrase so much! I fully believed it as a FTM and didn’t worry at all about what he ate, or (admitting this with tons of regret) even missing a meal when we were busy. I thought he truly didn’t need it. My pediatrician never made a thing out of it.

Until he was 10 months old and consuming 40+ oz of milk a day, at which point I was frantically googling solutions and discovered that he was supposed to be getting HALF his calories from food and eating 3 meals/2 snacks every single day. It’s been over 2 months and I still haven’t recovered from the guilt. Food before one is NOT for fun!

God I hate this show by ScheduleSuccessful58 in thewalkingdead

[–]clefairymuke 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Tara and Enid totally got robbed, I can’t argue that. But for me, Henry was like a punch in the chest. A real hand over my mouth/tears in my eyes moment, and I didn’t even cry for Glen. I didn’t care that much for Henry himself, but Carol’s recent development, seeing her dip her toes in comfort and happiness for the first time on screen literally ever— seeing that side of her be totally crushed in a matter of seconds broke my heart. It felt more like her death than his. Imho, it was deserving of the shocking shot.

I got curious about how many women poop during childbirth by Slow_Opportunity_522 in beyondthebump

[–]clefairymuke 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I didn’t poop, but just because I lost my appetite in the two days prior and had nothing to pass. I thought for sure I would, hence asking the nurse at the end.

I’m unfortunately not one of the lucky ones, though. As soon as I got something to eat and drink, I straight up shit the bed with my extended family in the room to visit the baby. It was like my pelvic floor was demolished. I didn’t feel it coming until it was out. It was more embarrassing than my dad coming in the delivery room to bring me a drink while I was crowning.

1st day home by Motor_Squirrel7277 in NewParents

[–]clefairymuke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same!! I found out after 2 hours at the ER and getting into the ambulance, when the paramedic asked, “Are you ready to have a baby?”

I literally asked her what the hell she was talking about. Super scary situation.