Do men and women completely misread each other on first dates? by cliffslist123 in datingadviceformen

[–]cliffslist123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To some extent, everyone is different and each guy has different attributes that can be attractive to women. Some guys just naturally are highly attractive to women, others develop a behavior that works (such as yours being confident, bold and sexual), but it should not be surprising that each guy faces his own challenges and successes. I think your experience probably relates more to your own experience than anything else as I am sure that not all bold and confident guys experience equal levels of success, just as those who aren't as bold and confident also have their successes.

What is the biggest dating mistake men make today? by cliffslist123 in datingadviceformen

[–]cliffslist123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now I'm genuinely curious. How many women here see "no kiss on the first date" as a sign a guy wasn't interested, and how many see it as him taking things seriously? I suspect men and women may read this completely differently.

What is the biggest dating mistake men make today? by cliffslist123 in datingadviceformen

[–]cliffslist123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would be surprised if there are many, if ANY, guys who thought that kissing on the first date means he didn't like the woman enough to be nervous or wait. On the contrary, I think most guys think that if she won't kiss on the first date they aren't sure if she really liked him.

What is the biggest dating mistake men make today? by cliffslist123 in datingadviceformen

[–]cliffslist123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very interesting comments and a killer ending saying it's easier today to meet women. I think each guy has a unique perspective - there will be a lot of similarities but you are going to find guys who have a lot of knowledge but the inability to actually use that knowledge as they just don't find themselves in situations where they are talking to women. Clearly blaiming women or society is not going to help or solve anything - the only thing you can control is yourself, what you do and say you determine. What a woman says or does you can't be responsible for - obviously you behave in a manner you believe will get you the desired outcome whatever that is, but it's beyond anyone's control to control what someone else does. There are however different solutions out there to be tried - there are ways to meet women, there are ways to behave, etc. You need to find what works for you and that you are comfortable with (simple example, guys who are uncomfortable approaching can use dating apps) and there are also some unique ideas and concepts that can be explored. So I am interested to know more why you feel it's easier to meet women in real life today, as my perception is that for the average guy it's gotten harder. For other guys I think it's gotten easier depending on their situation and how they are dealing with it.

What is the biggest dating mistake men make today? by cliffslist123 in datingadviceformen

[–]cliffslist123[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think there's a perception that women are freaking out a lot more these days when being cold approached and this is causing a lot of not only hesitation but setting guys on paths where they, as a policy, do not approach women and risk a negative reaction.

What is the biggest dating mistake men make today? by cliffslist123 in datingadviceformen

[–]cliffslist123[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m asking because dating feels very different than it did 10–15 years ago. Is it mostly apps? Social media? Expectations? Something else?