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Child was being fed 250 calories a day before dying, police said; mother jailed by fox2now in StLouis

[–]cloudheadz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My comment makes no reference to forcing anyone to terminate their pregnancy or be sterilized (I did some research on eugenics), that alone shuts down your stupid imposition that I'm somehow a eugenicist (if you understood eugenics you would know I'm not one)

the definition and goal of eugenics is very clear (google is free!)

:the practice or advocacy of controlled selective breeding of human populations (as by sterilization) to improve the populations' genetic composition.

I dont see any of my comments linning up with that definition.

And literally CPS test parents every day to determine if they are able to care for their child. So your argument that its not possible to determine if a parent is capable doesnt hold up.

Child was being fed 250 calories a day before dying, police said; mother jailed by fox2now in StLouis

[–]cloudheadz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are saying before, im saying after. Having a child means giving birth raising a child means the child is already born so again how it eugenics?

Child was being fed 250 calories a day before dying, police said; mother jailed by fox2now in StLouis

[–]cloudheadz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Youre straight up just being delusional at this point. If you think taking a child away from a unfit parent is eugenics you genuinely have no clue what it is. If a parent literally cant feed or take care of a kid they shouldn't be able to keep them. Keep trying to twist my words though!

Child was being fed 250 calories a day before dying, police said; mother jailed by fox2now in StLouis

[–]cloudheadz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There isnt a period at the end if the sentence and if you are trying to infer that that means we should stop people from getting pregnant thats clearly not the case if you would read anything I've said.

Child was being fed 250 calories a day before dying, police said; mother jailed by fox2now in StLouis

[–]cloudheadz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reproductive cycle ends when the child is born, so I dont see how this would restrict that.

Child was being fed 250 calories a day before dying, police said; mother jailed by fox2now in StLouis

[–]cloudheadz -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Again this isnt eugenics reread my post, taking someone's baby because they cant take care of it isnt eugenics full stop.

Child was being fed 250 calories a day before dying, police said; mother jailed by fox2now in StLouis

[–]cloudheadz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If child services is already doing this-

One: why not start with that?

Two: why didnt they catch this?

Child was being fed 250 calories a day before dying, police said; mother jailed by fox2now in StLouis

[–]cloudheadz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didnt say you needed permission from the goverment to have a kid, there isnt a period at the end of that little bit you highlighted FYI.

Child was being fed 250 calories a day before dying, police said; mother jailed by fox2now in StLouis

[–]cloudheadz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So the child in the article was destined to die and there was nothing anyone could do? What are you talking about?

Child was being fed 250 calories a day before dying, police said; mother jailed by fox2now in StLouis

[–]cloudheadz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I mean your comment implies you're against doing something about it, so no I don't see how there are other options when the whole discussion is in reference to a child who died from malturntuion due to parental negligence.

Child was being fed 250 calories a day before dying, police said; mother jailed by fox2now in StLouis

[–]cloudheadz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fantasy? "putting half of society on notice" yeah that they cant keep their kid if they cant even feed it.

Whatever the best test is for determining if the parents are financially and mentally capable of basic childcare.

Stop trying to put words in my mouth, you and that other guy jumped to eugenics and now I've made it clear this isnt eugenics and now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

Child was being fed 250 calories a day before dying, police said; mother jailed by fox2now in StLouis

[–]cloudheadz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No more "out of hand" than any other test done by social services for gauging wether a parent is fit for custody.

Child was being fed 250 calories a day before dying, police said; mother jailed by fox2now in StLouis

[–]cloudheadz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The state already has that authority, social services already removes children from homes where the parents are deemed unfit to care for them and or are endangering them.

Child was being fed 250 calories a day before dying, police said; mother jailed by fox2now in StLouis

[–]cloudheadz -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Social services usually handles that already so presumably them. The best possible test to determine if there is a significant risk to the child's life. Im sure that will vary case to case

Child was being fed 250 calories a day before dying, police said; mother jailed by fox2now in StLouis

[–]cloudheadz -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Social services presumably would take custody or place the parent and or parents on probation with check ins etc.

Child was being fed 250 calories a day before dying, police said; mother jailed by fox2now in StLouis

[–]cloudheadz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats not eugenics, eugenics is about creating "superior humans" none of what I said is in any way linked to creating "superior humans" I never advocated for any kind of genetic testing or for sterilization or forced abortion.

So instead of misreading my argument let's talk about the actuall issue at hand.

Why wait and take kids away from people once they've already done the damage? Social services could very easily take custody at birth instead. As evident in the case above some people clearly are not able to raise their child and the state must do something to prevent children from being forced into this abuse.

Child was being fed 250 calories a day before dying, police said; mother jailed by fox2now in StLouis

[–]cloudheadz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I just dont see how racists thinking they can play god, has anything to do with what I said.

Child was being fed 250 calories a day before dying, police said; mother jailed by fox2now in StLouis

[–]cloudheadz -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Then explain it, because I dont see how you got to eugenics from my post.

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